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Headquarters

450 Lexington Ave, New York, NY 10017

100 Crescent Ct, Unit 700, Dallas, Texas 75201, US

Country

United States

United States

Foundation

2026

2021

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CEO
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Dylan Elchami

Assets
Indices, Forex, Commodities
Futures
Brokers
Rithmic
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Payout Fee

No Boxcar payout fee.

E8 charges no payout fee. WorkMarket or Rise may charge a processing fee depending on the selected withdrawal method.

Platforms
RTrader Pro, NinjaTrader, MotiveWave, Quantower, Sierra Chart, Jigsaw, Bookmap, ATAS, MultiCharts
Tradovate
Payout Methods
Transfer, Crypto
Transfer, Crypto, Rise
Live Account
Yes

Evaluation and initial funding are simulated. Prime, Flex and Funded reach live review after 5 approved payouts. Payout triggers review at USD 6,000 / 8,000 / 10,000 / 12,000 daily profit for 25K / 50K / 100K / 150K; the risk team may also initiate review. Approval, KYC and a separate agreement are required. One live account per eligible funded account with at least one payout.
Live starts at USD 0 with size-based EOD drawdown of USD 1,000 / 2,000 / 3,000 / 4,500, no DLL and exchange-specific position scaling. The floor locks at USD 100 upon earning profit equal to the starting drawdown or requesting an earlier payout. Daily requests when eligible.
Moving live closes all household simulated accounts; accounts without payouts are refunded. Prime, Flex and Funded forfeit remaining simulated profit, apart from an eligible final payout. Payout may settle profit above the buffer, capped at USD 15,000 combined with the usual split, after broker verification; the prior close is used and the transition session is excluded. Standard cooldown after a live breach: 2 weeks.

No

Challenge and SimFi Performance accounts are simulated. Futures market data is sourced from CME.

Payment Methods
Card
Card, Crypto
Payout Frequency

Payout: daily requests when eligible. Prime: from 3 days; Flex and Funded: from 5 days per cycle. Plaid: instant delivery to US banks; WorkMarket by ADP: 2 days for international banks. Prior review and approval required.

  • Signature Futures: on demand once all payout requirements are met.
  • Zero Starter and Zero Max: daily, minimum $100.
Maximum Withdrawal

Gross amounts, in 25K / 50K / 100K / 150K order:

  • Prime: first payout USD 1,000 / 2,000 / 2,500 / 3,000; later payouts USD 1,500 / 2,500 / 3,000 / 3,500.
  • Flex: up to 50% of cycle profit, capped at USD 1,000 / 2,000 / 2,500 / 3,000.
  • Payout: available profit above the buffer, with no additional per-request cap.
  • Funded: payouts 1-3, USD 1,000 / 2,000 / 2,500 / 3,000; payouts 4-5, USD 1,000 / 2,500 / 3,000 / 3,500.

E8 Signature Futures

Payout $25K $50K $100K $150K
1st–2nd $1,000 $1,250 $2,250 $3,250
3rd–4th $1,250 $2,250 $3,250 $4,250
5th $1,500 $3,250 $4,250 $5,250

E8 Zero Starter

  • $50K: $1,000
  • $100K: $1,600
  • $200K: $2,100

E8 Zero Max

  • $50K: $3,000
  • $100K: $5,000
  • $200K: $7,000

Signature Futures and Zero allow a maximum of 5 payouts per account; after the fifth, the account closes and a free Challenge of the same size is issued.

Minimum Withdrawal

USD 500 gross per request, before the split.

$100

Other Payout Requirements

Cycle profit goals, in 25K / 50K / 100K / 150K order:

  • Prime: USD 250 / 500 / 750 / 1,000.
  • Funded: first cycle USD 1,500 / 3,000 / 6,000 / 9,000; later cycles USD 1,250 / 2,500 / 3,500 / 4,500.
    Flex and Payout need a net-positive cycle. Each approval starts a new cycle. Minimum age: 18. Identity verification is required; businesses receive payment in their own name and provide formation, ownership and IDs for owners holding at least 25%. One permanent personal or business profile per trader, with no conversion or replacement. Requests are final and submitted through support.

Payouts require successful onboarding and KYC with WorkMarket or Rise. If neither provider accepts the trader, E8 cannot process the payout.

Commission

USD per contract per side; round trip = twice the rate:

  • ES, NQ, RTY, NKD, YM: 1.75.
  • 6A, 6B, 6C, 6E, 6J, 6S, 6N: 2.40.
  • CL, QM, NG: 2.00; QG: 1.30.
  • PL, GC, SI, HG: 2.30.
  • HE, LE, ZS, ZC, ZL, ZM, ZW: 2.80.
  • MES, MNQ, M2K, MYM, MCL: 0.50; MGC: 0.80; SIL: 1.60.
    CME, CBOT, NYMEX and COMEX contracts. QM, QG and NKD count as minis. MNG and MHG are unavailable. Live costs follow onboarding terms.
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Account Reset

Active or failed evaluations and purchased direct-funded BoxcarFunded accounts can be reset. A reset replaces the account with the same plan and retains its history. Cost is the lower of the original amount paid for that account and its current reset price. Free accounts pay the current reset price. Funding earned by passing an evaluation needs a new evaluation after a breach; live accounts cannot be reset.

After an account fails, a 10% discount is available for 7 days to retry the same account size and settings.

Add-ons
Yes

Level II: USD 13/month for CME only or USD 39/month for all four exchanges. Rithmic server-side copier: USD 15/month across all accounts on the login. An optional second login is also offered in the portal, with no confirmed public price.

Yes

Zero Starter and Zero Max allow the payout share to be increased from the 80% base configuration to 100% at checkout.

Instant
Yes

BoxcarFunded starts directly in simulated funding.

No
One Step
Yes

Prime, Flex and Payout have one evaluation.

Yes
Max Drawdown

EOD trailing on Prime, Flex and Funded. Payout offers EOD or intraday in evaluation; funded is always intraday, including open profit. The floor never falls and stops at starting balance + USD 100, reached at starting balance + MLL + USD 100. A Flex payout request also locks the floor. Touching the floor, including through open losses, breaches the account.

EOD Dynamic Drawdown based on the highest end-of-day balance. Intraday equity does not move it. It locks permanently at the initial balance level.

Daily Drawdown

Prime, Flex and Payout offer a DLL at purchase; the choice carries to both stages and cannot change. Hitting it closes positions and locks trading until the next session, without itself breaching the MLL. On funded Prime and Funded, the DLL becomes 60% of peak EOD profit after closing above the initial trail balance, and can only grow. Flex and Payout keep a fixed DLL; Funded 25K never acquires one.

  • Signature Challenge: none.
  • Signature Performance: 2% Daily Pause (soft breach; trading resumes the next day).
  • Zero Challenge and Performance: none.
Max Allocation
750,000
  • Challenge stage: unlimited accounts.
  • Signature Futures: up to 5 active Performance accounts.
  • Zero Starter/Max: up to 3 active Performance accounts. Limits apply per household.
Mandatory buffer
Limited

Prime and Payout must retain starting balance + MLL + USD 100 after a payout. Flex has no additional buffer but must respect its loss floor. Funded applies cycle goals and caps as well as loss-floor protection.

Limited

Signature requires leaving a non-withdrawable buffer equal to the EOD Dynamic Drawdown before payouts. On Zero, any profit left after a payout remains as buffer and cannot be requested in a later cycle.

Maximum Accounts

Unlimited evaluations and up to 5 active funded accounts across plans. Additional direct-funded purchases remain in reserve. No household simulated trading while a member trades live.

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Maximum Trading Days

No fixed deadline to pass. Inactivity rules still apply.

Unlimited, but the account closes after 7 days of inactivity.

Minimum Trading Days

Prime evaluation: a 1-day pass is possible. Flex and Payout have no separate fixed minimum beyond consistency. Payouts: Prime from 3 days; Funded requires 5 trading days per cycle; Payout allows daily requests when other conditions are met.

  • Signature Futures: can pass in 1 day.
  • Zero Starter/Max: earliest pass in 3 days because of the 40% Best Day rule.
Funded Phase Pricing Model

No activation charge after passing and no account subscription.

No activation fee or recurring subscription.

Minimum Profitable Days

Funded Flex: 5 separate days per cycle, each with at least USD 100 / 150 / 200 / 250 net profit for 25K / 50K / 100K / 150K. Day counts restart after payout approval.

  • Signature: 5 profitable days between payouts after the first payout; a profitable day requires at least 0.3% realized profit.
  • Zero Starter/Max: no minimum profitable days in Performance.
Position size scaling
Limited

Only Flex sim-funded scales contracts with accumulated closing profit; losses or payouts can lower its tier. Prime, Payout and Funded retain full limits. Live scaling is confirmed per exchange.

Limited

Only Zero Performance accounts scale contract allowance. At 1.5% locked profit the first level unlocks the next day; at 3% the second level unlocks. Signature and Zero Challenge contract limits do not scale.

Evaluation Phase Pricing Model

One-time purchase with no automatic renewal. Platform and Level I data included. Breaches, lack of use or a change of mind do not normally qualify for refunds; duplicate or incorrect charges, missing access and statutory rights are reviewed. An unused purchase may receive discretionary review before any order or trade.

One-time fee. No subscription.

Account scaling
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No
Profit Split
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  • Signature Futures: 80%.
  • Zero Starter/Max: 80% base; 100% can be selected at checkout.
Free Trial
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No
Merge Accounts
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No
Expert Advisor (EA)
Yes

Own automated strategies are allowed on evaluations and simulated-funded accounts, subject to all account rules. Software errors and HFT restrictions still apply.

No

Semi-automated and fully automated trading, including bots, AI tools and HFT above 300 trades per day, is prohibited on Futures.

Hedging
Limited

Opposing different products or mini/micro pairs are allowed within one evaluation or sim-funded account. Long and short in the same exact contract, or opposing same/correlated products across accounts, including other traders or firms, are prohibited. Same-account exceptions do not carry over to live. A first violation may return balances to the prior close; repeated violations may breach accounts and end access.

No

Futures accounts use a netting system. Hedging across multiple accounts or users is prohibited.

Scalping
Limited

Realistic scalping is allowed. More than 50% of profit from trades lasting 5 seconds or less may trigger review. A flag is not automatic failure; confirmed or repeated exploitation may lead to profit removal and loss of access.

Limited

At least 50% of total profit must come from trades held for 10 seconds or longer.

Stacking / Layering (DCA)
Yes

DCA and scaling into positions within contract and loss limits.

No data
Martingale
Yes

Permitted within account limits, although Boxcar strongly discourages it.

No data
Copy Trading
Limited

Across your own Boxcar accounts, using built-in or third-party copiers. Each account keeps its own limits. Credential sharing and trading for others are prohibited.

Limited

Allowed only between accounts owned by the same trader. Team trading, signals and copying another trader are prohibited.

News Trading
Limited

Allowed on Prime, Flex, Funded and Payout evaluation. Funded Payout must be flat from 1 minute before through 1 minute after high-impact USD news on the Forex Factory calendar; violations breach the account. Cancel pending entries and pause automation. Live has separate terms.

Yes
Inactivity Rule

At least one closed trade with USD 1 net profit or loss in every 30-calendar-day period. Otherwise the account may be permanently removed. Breached evaluations may be removed after 30 days without a reset.

Yes

The account closes after 7 days without opening and closing at least one trade.

Consistency Rule
Limited

Prime: none in evaluation, 40% per funded cycle. Flex and Payout: nominal 50% in evaluation plus a 2-point cushion, an effective 52% ceiling; no funded consistency. Funded: 20% per cycle. Best net day divided by total net profit; fees and losing days count. Missing consistency delays passing or payouts without itself breaching drawdown.

Limited
  • Zero Challenge: 40% Best Day rule; if the best day exceeds 40% of total profit, the effective target increases.
  • Zero Performance: no consistency rule.
  • Signature Challenge: no consistency rule.
  • Signature Performance: 35% Best Day rule for payout eligibility.
Hold Weekend
No

Evaluation and sim-funded positions must close before weekends and exchange early closes.

No
Prohibited Strategies

Exploitative HFT, latency or delayed prices, unrealistic simulated fills, technical defects, spoofing, layering, prohibited coordination or hedging, and trading for others. Brief flipping to count trading days is allowed but does not replace minimum-profit days or payout goals.

  • Exploiting gaps, illiquid markets, pricing errors or slow data feeds
  • Semi-automated or fully automated trading, bots, AI tools and HFT above 300 trades/day
  • Trading within 2% of a CME product lock limit
  • Irresponsible or all-or-nothing trading
  • Hedging across accounts or users
  • Tick scalping where less than 50% of profit comes from trades held at least 10 seconds
  • Trading anything other than the front-month contract
  • Account rolling and strategies that are not reproducible in real markets
Overnight positions
No

Trading during the overnight session is allowed, but positions cannot cross the daily close: flatten by 16:45 ET and re-enter from 18:00 ET in the next open session. Scheduled automatic flattening is not a breach. Live follows its own schedule.

No

All positions are forcibly closed every trading day at 15:10 CT. Trading is permitted from 17:00 to 15:10 CT.

Maximum Risk Limit
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Limited

There is no fixed percentage risk cap, but irresponsible, all-or-nothing or disproportionate risk-taking can trigger review or account termination.

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