Phidias Propfirm
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Phidias Propfirm
Phidias Propfirm
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Phidias Propfirm Phidias Propfirm: Information and detailed review
Company information
No
Suite 4.3.02, Block 4, Eurotowers, Gibraltar, GX11 1AA
Gibraltar
2023
Phidias Propfirm Limited. Registration number: GICO.123937-76.
| Broker-backed | No |
| Headquarters | Suite 4.3.02, Block 4, Eurotowers, Gibraltar, GX11 1AA |
| Country | Gibraltar |
| Foundation | 2023 |
| Legal entity | Phidias Propfirm Limited. Registration number: GICO.123937-76. |
Technical information
$500.
Fundamental and Premium: up to $2,000 per cycle on 50K, $2,500 on 100K, and $2,750 on 150K. LIVE accounts originating from Express to Live have no maximum daily limit.
Fundamental: every 10 qualifying trading days. Premium: every 5 qualifying days. LIVE from Express to Live: daily.
Fundamental and Premium apply a 30% consistency rule on CASH accounts. A qualifying day must generate at least $150 on 50K, $200 on 100K, or $250 on 150K. Express to Live uses a separate bonus and automatic LIVE conversion system.
Phidias states that 90% of payouts are processed in under 30 minutes and all payouts within 24 hours.
Express to Live converts the CASH account to LIVE after reaching its CASH target and requesting the first payout through “Switch to Live”. Phidias states that the full path from signup to first payout and LIVE conversion can be completed in 48 hours on every E2L size. Fundamental and Premium may transition to LIVE after 5 payouts or $100,000 in cumulative profits, subject to the risk team’s discretion.
CME top-of-book is free during evaluation and CASH. Market depth costs €11/month per exchange or €33/month for CME, CBOT, COMEX, and NYMEX. On LIVE accounts, Rithmic and dxFeed charge no data-feed fee; Tradovate/NinjaTrader may charge exchange fees.
CME, CBOT, NYMEX, COMEX, and EUREX.
| Brokers | Dorman Trading |
| Assets | IndicesInterest RatesCurrenciesCryptocurrenciesAgricultureEnergiesMetals |
| Platforms | RTrader ProRithmicTradovateNinjaTraderTradingviewDeepChartsQuantowerMotiveWaveATASSierra ChartBookmapJigsaw |
| Payment methods | Card |
| Payout methods | RiseTransferCrypto |
| Minimum withdrawal | $500. |
| Maximum withdrawal | Fundamental and Premium: up to $2,000 per cycle on 50K, $2,500 on 100K, and $2,750 on 150K. LIVE accounts originating from Express to Live have no maximum daily limit. |
| Payout frequency | Fundamental: every 10 qualifying trading days. Premium: every 5 qualifying days. LIVE from Express to Live: daily. |
| Other payout requirements | Fundamental and Premium apply a 30% consistency rule on CASH accounts. A qualifying day must generate at least $150 on 50K, $200 on 100K, or $250 on 150K. Express to Live uses a separate bonus and automatic LIVE conversion system. |
| Payout guarantee | Phidias states that 90% of payouts are processed in under 30 minutes and all payouts within 24 hours. |
| Live Account | ✓ Express to Live converts the CASH account to LIVE after reaching its CASH target and requesting the first payout through “Switch to Live”. Phidias states that the full path from signup to first payout and LIVE conversion can be completed in 48 hours on every E2L size. Fundamental and Premium may transition to LIVE after 5 payouts or $100,000 in cumulative profits, subject to the risk team’s discretion. |
| Market data | CME top-of-book is free during evaluation and CASH. Market depth costs €11/month per exchange or €33/month for CME, CBOT, COMEX, and NYMEX. On LIVE accounts, Rithmic and dxFeed charge no data-feed fee; Tradovate/NinjaTrader may charge exchange fees. |
| Authorized exchanges | CME, CBOT, NYMEX, COMEX, and EUREX. |
Commissions
Per-side commissions vary by contract, from $0.74 to $2.92. Phidias publishes the exact rate for each symbol in its rules.
Per-side commissions vary by contract, from €0.51 to €2.02.
| CME Group via Rithmic | Per-side commissions vary by contract, from $0.74 to $2.92. Phidias publishes the exact rate for each symbol in its rules. |
| EUREX via dxFeed | Per-side commissions vary by contract, from €0.51 to €2.02. |
Plans and conditions
Unlimited evaluation accounts. A trader may operate a LIVE account while pursuing a new evaluation. Simultaneous maximum: 5 Fundamental CASH, 5 Premium CASH, and 5 Express to Live CASH/LIVE accounts. The 10K Drawdown Summer Edition allows unlimited simultaneous entries, with only the trader’s best account counting on the leaderboard. Fundamental and Premium 150K accounts count as two slots in their category.
A minimum threshold applies when requesting a payout, but withdrawals may reduce the balance to $50,100, $100,100, or $150,100. Phidias does not treat this as a locked buffer.
Express to Live and Fundamental: 80%. Premium: 75% on the first payout, 80% on the second, 85% on the third, 90% on the fourth, and 100% from the fifth onward.
Express to Live uses a static drawdown that never moves. Fundamental and Premium use trailing drawdown calculated at the end of the day; the limit remains fixed during the session.
There is no daily loss limit on Express to Live, Fundamental, or Premium.
Evaluation: 0 days on Express to Live, 3 on Fundamental, and 1 on Premium. CASH: 0 days for the Express to Live bonus, 10 qualifying days between payouts on Fundamental, and 5 on Premium.
On Fundamental and Premium CASH accounts, a qualifying day must close with at least $150 on 50K, $200 on 100K, or $250 on 150K.
Phidias Wallet centralizes account subscriptions, bank or cryptocurrency withdrawals, purchases, activations, and LIVE-account funding directly from earnings. Phidias Points are an internal unit that cannot be transferred outside the ecosystem.
On LIVE accounts, traders may request a contract-limit increase in writing. The risk team may approve, reject, or adjust the limit.
LIVE accounts may advance to ELITE after 60 days and a $125,000 balance, or MASTER after 120 days and $250,000. Transition remains subject to risk review.
Fundamental and Premium allow unlimited evaluation resets. A failed subscription also resets with the next 30-day renewal. Express to Live does not allow resets. Premium CASH permits one funded-account reset.
Market-depth data and additional exchanges can be purchased from the member area.
After passing evaluation, the account moves to CASH under the same rules. After reaching the target again, the trader receives a fixed bonus subject to the 80/20 split plus LIVE-account credit: 25K = $1,000 + $500 LIVE; 50K = $2,000 + $1,000 LIVE; 100K = $3,000 + $1,500 LIVE; 150K = $4,500 + $2,000 LIVE.
Express to Live uses automatic conversion. Fundamental and Premium become eligible only for discretionary review after 5 payouts or $100,000 in cumulative profits. Meeting the threshold does not guarantee transition.
| Maximum allocation | $600,000 |
| Maximum number of accounts | Unlimited evaluation accounts. A trader may operate a LIVE account while pursuing a new evaluation. Simultaneous maximum: 5 Fundamental CASH, 5 Premium CASH, and 5 Express to Live CASH/LIVE accounts. The 10K Drawdown Summer Edition allows unlimited simultaneous entries, with only the trader’s best account counting on the leaderboard. Fundamental and Premium 150K accounts count as two slots in their category. |
| Mandatory buffer | ✗ A minimum threshold applies when requesting a payout, but withdrawals may reduce the balance to $50,100, $100,100, or $150,100. Phidias does not treat this as a locked buffer. |
| Profit split | Express to Live and Fundamental: 80%. Premium: 75% on the first payout, 80% on the second, 85% on the third, 90% on the fourth, and 100% from the fifth onward. |
| Maximum drawdown | Express to Live uses a static drawdown that never moves. Fundamental and Premium use trailing drawdown calculated at the end of the day; the limit remains fixed during the session. |
| Daily drawdown | There is no daily loss limit on Express to Live, Fundamental, or Premium. |
| Minimum trading days | Evaluation: 0 days on Express to Live, 3 on Fundamental, and 1 on Premium. CASH: 0 days for the Express to Live bonus, 10 qualifying days between payouts on Fundamental, and 5 on Premium. |
| Minimum profitable days | On Fundamental and Premium CASH accounts, a qualifying day must close with at least $150 on 50K, $200 on 100K, or $250 on 150K. |
| Points reward program | Phidias Wallet centralizes account subscriptions, bank or cryptocurrency withdrawals, purchases, activations, and LIVE-account funding directly from earnings. Phidias Points are an internal unit that cannot be transferred outside the ecosystem. |
| One-step challenge | ✓ |
| Instant funding | ✗ |
| Position size scaling | ~ On LIVE accounts, traders may request a contract-limit increase in writing. The risk team may approve, reject, or adjust the limit. |
| Account scaling | ~ LIVE accounts may advance to ELITE after 60 days and a $125,000 balance, or MASTER after 120 days and $250,000. Transition remains subject to risk review. |
| Free trial | ✗ |
| Account reset | ~ Fundamental and Premium allow unlimited evaluation resets. A failed subscription also resets with the next 30-day renewal. Express to Live does not allow resets. Premium CASH permits one funded-account reset. |
| Add-ons | ✓ Market-depth data and additional exchanges can be purchased from the member area. |
| Express to Live path | After passing evaluation, the account moves to CASH under the same rules. After reaching the target again, the trader receives a fixed bonus subject to the 80/20 split plus LIVE-account credit: 25K = $1,000 + $500 LIVE; 50K = $2,000 + $1,000 LIVE; 100K = $3,000 + $1,500 LIVE; 150K = $4,500 + $2,000 LIVE. |
| LIVE transition | Express to Live uses automatic conversion. Fundamental and Premium become eligible only for discretionary review after 5 payouts or $100,000 in cumulative profits. Meeting the threshold does not guarantee transition. |
Rules
Robots, fully automated algorithms, and HFT are prohibited. Semi-automated software is allowed when the trader actively monitors and manually adjusts every trade.
Allowed only on Premium. Fundamental and Express to Live must close before the end of the session.
Allowed only on Premium. Fundamental and Express to Live must close before the end of the session.
Allowed within the maximum account limits. Identical strategies exceeding the authorized allocation may result in account suspension.
Hedging is prohibited on the same underlying within one account (including ES vs MES), between CASH accounts, and through coordinated opposite trades between traders; violations can close all involved accounts and lead to a ban. Multiple assets may be traded simultaneously, but the contract cap applies across all symbols; bypassing it can close the account without refund.
Robots and fully automated trading; HFT; lottery-style or full-margin trades during high-volatility news; old or illiquid contracts; spreads between expirations; one-tick Treasury-bond arbitrage; exploitation of technical or market errors.
There is no consistency rule during evaluation or on Express to Live. On Fundamental and Premium CASH accounts, no single day may represent more than 30% of total profit. It is calculated over at least 4 days.
DCA is allowed to smooth entry points, provided consistent risk management is maintained.
Phidias requires consistent position sizing and risk management. Lottery-style trading, excessive margin usage, or non-replicable patterns may lead to reduced contracts or account closure.
Fundamental and Express to Live must close every position before 9:59 PM UTC. Premium is excluded from this requirement and permits overnight and weekend holding.
| News trading | ✓ |
| Expert Advisor (EA) | ✗ Robots, fully automated algorithms, and HFT are prohibited. Semi-automated software is allowed when the trader actively monitors and manually adjusts every trade. |
| Mandatory stop loss | ✗ |
| Weekend positions | ~ Allowed only on Premium. Fundamental and Express to Live must close before the end of the session. |
| Overnight positions | ~ Allowed only on Premium. Fundamental and Express to Live must close before the end of the session. |
| Copy trading | ✓ Allowed within the maximum account limits. Identical strategies exceeding the authorized allocation may result in account suspension. |
| Hedging | ✗ Hedging is prohibited on the same underlying within one account (including ES vs MES), between CASH accounts, and through coordinated opposite trades between traders; violations can close all involved accounts and lead to a ban. Multiple assets may be traded simultaneously, but the contract cap applies across all symbols; bypassing it can close the account without refund. |
| Prohibited strategies | Robots and fully automated trading; HFT; lottery-style or full-margin trades during high-volatility news; old or illiquid contracts; spreads between expirations; one-tick Treasury-bond arbitrage; exploitation of technical or market errors. |
| Consistency rule | ~ There is no consistency rule during evaluation or on Express to Live. On Fundamental and Premium CASH accounts, no single day may represent more than 30% of total profit. It is calculated over at least 4 days. |
| Scalping | ✓ |
| Stacking / Layering (DCA) | ✓ DCA is allowed to smooth entry points, provided consistent risk management is maintained. |
| Maximum risk limit | ~ Phidias requires consistent position sizing and risk management. Lottery-style trading, excessive margin usage, or non-replicable patterns may lead to reduced contracts or account closure. |
| VPN allowed | ✗ |
| Trading hours and position closure | Fundamental and Express to Live must close every position before 9:59 PM UTC. Premium is excluded from this requirement and permits overnight and weekend holding. |
Banned countries
Corporate Overview and Business Structure
Phidias Propfirm, established in 2023 and headquartered in Gibraltar, operates as a specialized funding provider for futures traders. The firm is legally registered as Phidias Propfirm Limited and distinguishes itself through a multi-tiered account structure that bridges the gap between simulated environments and live market execution.
The firm utilizes Dorman Trading as its primary broker, providing access to major exchanges including CME, CBOT, NYMEX, COMEX, and EUREX. Traders can engage with a wide range of asset classes, including equity indices, interest rates, currencies, cryptocurrencies, agriculture, energies, and metals. The technological infrastructure supports a vast array of platforms, most notably NinjaTrader, Tradovate, Rithmic, and TradingView, alongside specialized tools like Quantower, Bookmap, and Jigsaw.
Account Modalities and Evaluation Paths
Phidias offers three distinct account categories, each designed with different risk profiles and operational requirements. Understanding the transition from evaluation to "CASH" (funded) and eventually "LIVE" accounts is critical for long-term planning.
Express to Live (E2L) Path
This is a specialized model designed for rapid progression. Unlike traditional models, it focuses on a fixed bonus system and automatic conversion to a live brokerage account.
- Evaluation and CASH Phase: The rules remain identical between the evaluation and the initial funded (CASH) phase.
- The Conversion Mechanism: Upon reaching the profit target in the CASH account, the trader does not just receive a payout; they receive a fixed bonus (subject to an 80/20 split) and an automatic credit to open a LIVE account.
- Speed of Execution: The firm claims the entire process from initial signup to LIVE conversion can be achieved in as little as 48 hours, provided targets are met.
- Drawdown Type: This path utilizes a static drawdown, which remains fixed at a specific level and never trails upward, providing a transparent risk floor.
Fundamental Accounts
This is the standard model for traders seeking a balance between high contract limits and traditional payout structures.
- Evaluation Requirements: A minimum of 3 trading days is required to pass the evaluation.
- Payout Cycle: Payouts are available every 10 qualifying trading days.
- Profit Split: A flat 80% for the trader.
- LIVE Transition: Moving to a live brokerage account is not automatic; it is subject to discretionary review by the risk team after the trader has secured 5 payouts or accumulated $100,000 in profits.
Premium Accounts
The Premium model is tailored for institutional-style trading, offering the most flexible rules regarding position holding.
- Operational Flexibility: This is the only account type that permits overnight and weekend position holding.
- Evaluation Requirements: Only 1 trading day is required to pass the evaluation.
- Scaling Profit Split: The split begins at 75% for the first payout and increases by 5% with each subsequent payout until reaching 100% from the fifth payout onward.
- Account Recovery: Premium accounts include a unique feature: the ability to reset a funded (CASH) account for a fee, a benefit not available in other tiers.
Drawdown Mechanics and Risk Management
Risk management at Phidias is defined by how the firm calculates the maximum loss limit, which varies significantly between account types.
Static Drawdown (Express to Live)
The static drawdown is the most trader-friendly mechanic offered by the firm. It establishes a fixed price point below the initial balance. Because the drawdown never moves up, any profit generated increases the distance between the current balance and the failure point. This allows traders to "bank" safety room as their account grows.
End-of-Day (EOD) Trailing Drawdown (Fundamental and Premium)
For Fundamental and Premium accounts, Phidias employs an End-of-Day Trailing Drawdown.
- Calculation: The drawdown limit is only updated at the end of the trading session based on the closed balance.
- Intraday Benefit: Unlike "live" trailing drawdowns that move up during an open trade (penalizing unrealized profits), the EOD model allows traders to experience intraday volatility without the drawdown "eating" their potential room for error. The limit only moves if the trader closes the day with a higher account balance.
- Fixed Cap: Once the trailing drawdown reaches the initial starting balance (the "breakeven" point), it stops trailing, effectively becoming a static floor.
Trading Rules and Operational Restrictions
Phidias maintains strict guidelines to ensure that trading behavior is replicable and avoids "gambling" or "lottery" styles of execution.
Consistency Rules
The 30% Consistency Rule applies to Fundamental and Premium CASH accounts. This rule ensures that a trader's success is the result of a repeatable strategy rather than a single windfall.
- The 30% Cap: No single trading day can account for more than 30% of the total profit at the time of a payout request.
- Calculation Period: This is calculated over a minimum of 4 trading days. If one day exceeds the 30% threshold, the trader must continue trading to increase the total profit until that "big day" represents a smaller percentage of the whole.
Qualifying Days
To prevent traders from "flipping" accounts or using micro-lots just to clock in active days, Phidias requires Qualifying Days. A day is only counted toward payout eligibility if it meets a minimum profit threshold:
- 50K Account: $150 minimum profit.
- 100K Account: $200 minimum profit.
- 150K Account: $250 minimum profit.
Prohibited Strategies
The firm explicitly bans several high-frequency and manipulative tactics:
- Automation: Fully automated algorithms, robots, and HFT (High-Frequency Trading) are prohibited. However, semi-automated software is permitted if the trader remains in active control and manually adjusts trades.
- Hedging: Hedging is strictly forbidden. This includes taking opposite positions on the same underlying asset (e.g., long ES and short MES) within one account, across multiple accounts, or via coordination with other traders.
- News Trading Constraints: While news trading is generally allowed, "lottery-style" trades or using full margin during high-volatility news events is prohibited and can lead to account closure.
- Trading Hours: Fundamental and Express accounts must close all positions by 9:59 PM UTC. Failure to do so is a rule violation. Only Premium accounts are exempt from this daily closure.
Payout Policy and Financial Ecosystem
The firm has developed a centralized financial management tool called the Phidias Wallet, which handles all inflows and outflows.
Payout Execution
- Frequency: Fundamental payouts occur every 10 qualifying days. Premium payouts occur every 5 qualifying days. LIVE accounts (from the E2L path) allow for daily payout requests.
- Processing Time: Phidias emphasizes speed, stating that 90% of payouts are processed in under 30 minutes, with a 24-hour guarantee for all requests.
- Methods: Traders can receive funds via Rise, traditional Bank Transfer, or Cryptocurrency.
- Minimum Withdrawal: The minimum threshold for any withdrawal is $500.
Maximum Withdrawal Limits
During the initial phases of Fundamental and Premium accounts, there are caps on how much can be withdrawn per cycle:
- 50K Account: $2,000 max per cycle.
- 100K Account: $2,500 max per cycle.
- 150K Account: $2,750 max per cycle.
- LIVE Accounts: Accounts that have transitioned to LIVE status (specifically from the Express to Live path) have no maximum daily limit on withdrawals.
Technological Costs and Market Data
Traders must account for the costs of market data and commissions, which vary by platform and exchange.
- Commissions: Rates for the CME Group via Rithmic range from $0.74 to $2.92 per side, depending on the contract. EUREX via dxFeed ranges from €0.51 to €2.02.
- Market Data (Evaluation/CASH): CME Top-of-Book (Level 1) data is provided for free. However, Market Depth (Level 2) costs €11/month per exchange or a bundle of €33/month for all major CME exchanges.
- Live Data: On LIVE accounts, Rithmic and dxFeed do not charge data-feed fees, though Tradovate and NinjaTrader may pass through exchange-specific fees.
Scaling and Account Allocation
Phidias allows for significant capital scaling, but with specific limits on the number of simultaneous accounts.
- Max Allocation: A single trader can manage up to $600,000 in total across various accounts.
- Account Limits: A trader may hold 5 Fundamental CASH, 5 Premium CASH, and 5 Express to Live accounts simultaneously. However, 150K accounts are weighted more heavily and count as two slots.
- Elite and Master Status: LIVE accounts can scale further based on performance. After 60 days and a $125,000 balance, a trader can move to ELITE. After 120 days and a $250,000 balance, they can reach MASTER status, subject to risk team approval.
Summary of Key Considerations
Trader Profile Suitability
- The Aggressive Professional: The Express to Live path is ideal for traders who want to move away from simulated "CASH" environments quickly and enter a real brokerage environment with daily payouts.
- The Swing Trader: The Premium account is specifically designed for those whose strategies require holding positions over nights or weekends, a rarity in the futures prop firm industry.
- The Disciplined Scalper: The Fundamental account suits those who prefer a high contract-to-drawdown ratio and can maintain the 30% consistency requirement.
Major Strengths
- Static Drawdown Option: Available on E2L accounts, providing a very clear risk management framework.
- Payout Speed: The sub-30-minute processing time for the majority of payouts is a significant industry advantage.
- Direct Path to Live: The automatic conversion in the E2L model removes the "limbo" often found in other firms where traders remain in simulated environments indefinitely.
- 100% Profit Split: The potential to reach a 100% split on Premium accounts offers the highest possible reward for long-term consistency.
Important Limitations
- Qualifying Day Minimums: The requirement to earn a specific dollar amount for a day to count toward a payout prevents "micro-lotting" but may frustrate traders during low-volatility periods.
- Consistency Constraints: The 30% rule in Fundamental/Premium accounts requires traders to manage their "win" sizes, effectively punishing outliers or "lucky" days if they are not balanced by steady performance.
- Automation Ban: The strict prohibition on full EAs and HFT makes this firm unsuitable for algorithmic traders.
- Geographic Restrictions: A long list of banned countries limits global accessibility.
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