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Building A1, IFZA Business Park, Dubai Silicon Oasis, Dubai, United Arab Emirates
85 Great Portland Street, London, England W1W 7LT, GB
Jakub Zeliska
Faizan Anees
United Arab Emirates
United Kingdom
2023
2024
200% Challenge fee refund after the 3rd fully approved payout on Challenge accounts (Ash, Thunderbolt and Phoenix). The trader must request it through support. A partially approved payout or a payout with a strategy violation permanently disqualifies that account. It does not apply to Instant Funding accounts.
Full refund of the challenge fee with the first payout
- Bank Transfer (recommended): $19.90 + 2.49%.
- Cryptocurrency: $19.90 + 30% (higher due to limited UAE crypto liquidity).
- Returned payouts: $30 reprocessing fee (covers real bank/admin cost of reprocessing; not a penalty).
Rise: $50 each month any payout is requested
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- Bank transfers: 2-5 business days after approval.
- Crypto: faster, depends on blockchain network.
- Other programs: minimum 1% profit required per payout (resets after each payout).
- Turbo accounts: minimum 5 trading days per payout (each ≥0.5% profit).
- Vanguard (Instant Funding): minimum 5 trading days per payout (each ≥0.5% profit).
- Horizon and Odyssey: first payout 14 days after the funded account starts, then every 14 days. At least 3% profit of the initial balance is required before each payout, including between payouts, together with the required valid trading days.
- By default: Biweekly
- With add-on (+25%): Weekly
- Bolt and Bolt Flex: Biweekly by default; On-Demand Payouts with add-on (+25%)
Payout cap progresses with each approved withdrawal on the same funded account:
- Payout #1: 1% of initial balance
- Payout #2: 2%
- Payout #3: 3%
- Payout #4: 4%
- Payout #5: 5%
- Payout #6: 6%
- Payout #7: account resets to initial balance with NO payout cap (unlimited from #8 onwards)
Cap only increases after a FULLY approved withdrawal. Partial or declined payouts do not progress the cap.
100%
$100
- Lightning (Metatrader 5): 30:1
- Nexus (Metatrader 5): 100:1
- All accounts (ThinkTrader), Dual Step (Metatrader 5): Dynamic
- Lightning (Metatrader 5): 10:1
- Nexus (Metatrader 5): 15:1
- All accounts (ThinkTrader), Dual Step (Metatrader 5): Dynamic
- Lightning (Metatrader 5): 10:1
- Nexus (Metatrader 5): 15:1
- All accounts (ThinkTrader), Dual Step (Metatrader 5): Dynamic
- Lightning (Metatrader 5): 5:1
- Nexus (Metatrader 5): 15:1
- All accounts (ThinkTrader), Dual Step (Metatrader 5): Dynamic
- Lightning (Metatrader 5): 1:1
- Nexus (Metatrader 5): 1:1
- All accounts (ThinkTrader), Dual Step (Metatrader 5): Dynamic
All accounts are swap‑free
Resets are offered as an alternative to full suspension after a rule violation. The account continues trading, but every future payout on that account is permanently capped at 50% of the approved amount.
- Profit Split 90% (+25%)
- Weekly payout (+25%; not available on Bolt or Bolt Flex)
- Allows News Trading (+25%)
- Bolt and Bolt Flex: On-Demand Payouts (+25%)
- Bolt and Bolt Flex: Weekend Holding (+15%), permits weekend holding and trading
Scaling Plan for Thunderbolt and Vanguard accounts:
- Apply every 4 consecutive months via help@upcomers.com.
- +35% increase on simulated initial balance per cycle.
- Maximum allocation scalable up to $4,000,000.
Requirements per cycle: - ≥15% cumulative account growth across the 4 months.
- ≥2 withdrawals completed in the 4-month period.
- Final cycle must end in profit.
Separate "4M on request" individual contract available after 6+ consecutive profitable months.
- Lightning, Nexus and Dual Step: Traders become eligible after reaching a minimum profit of 10% within three months, equivalent to an average monthly gain of around 3.33%. Each approved phase increases the original demo account balance by 20%, up to $1 million on MetaTrader 5 or $1.5 million on ThinkTrader. Assessments take place every three months and require three payouts during each cycle.
- Bolt and Bolt Flex: Reach 10% total profit across four payouts within two months. Each approved scaling phase increases the account balance by 25%, up to $500,000 combined.
Current CFD programs use two systems:
- Dynamic Risk Shield™: 6% on Ash and Thunderbolt, 10% on Phoenix Legacy, 8% on Vanguard, 5% on Oracle and 4% on Ember. It trails the equity high-water mark and locks at the initial balance where specified.
- Static maximum loss: 6% on Phoenix Classic. The floor is fixed from the initial balance.
Percentages and behavior are shown per phase in the challenge catalogue. - Horizon and Odyssey: Dynamic Risk Shield™ follows the highest equity, only moves upward and stops at the initial balance, in evaluation and funded phases.
- Lightning: 6% trailing, locks at initial balance once it grows by 6%
- Bolt: 6% trailing equity, locks at initial balance once it grows by 6%
- Bolt Flex: 7% trailing balance, locks at initial balance once balance grows by 7%
- Dual Step Intraday: 7% static
- Dual Step Swing: 7% static
- Nexus: 8% static
Standard profit split: 90%. A trader can select 80% or 100% at checkout; changing the split also changes the Challenge price. The selected split remains linked to that account, and older accounts retain their original conditions.
- Standard: 80%
- With add-on (+25%): 90%
Resets daily at 00:00 UTC and is calculated under the rules of each program. Current limits:
- Ash Classic/Turbo and Thunderbolt Classic/Turbo: 3%
- Phoenix Classic: 4%
- Phoenix Legacy: 5%
- Vanguard and Oracle: 4%
- Ember: no daily drawdown
- Horizon: 3% and Odyssey: 4%, in evaluation and funded.
- 3% balance-based: Lightning, Nexus, Dual Step Swing, Bolt Flex
- 3% equity-based: Bolt, Dual Step Intraday
- All accounts: Soft breach, account disabled for the day, resumes next day at 00:00 MT5 Server Time
- MetaTrader 5: $300,000
- ThinkTrader: $600,000
- Bolt and Bolt Flex with scaling: $500,000 combined
Classic and Legacy challenges have no time limit. Ash Turbo and Thunderbolt Turbo have 30 calendar days and a maximum of 7 trading days.
Unlimited
No minimum trading days to pass the challenge in any Classic or Turbo program. Turbo challenges require only 1 trading day with real activity. For those programs, minimums apply only at the payout stage: see 'minimumProfitableDays'.
Horizon requires 2 valid trading days in its evaluation. Odyssey requires 2 valid trading days in each evaluation phase. A valid day earns at least 0.5% of the initial balance.
Payout eligibility requirements (a valid day has at least 0.5% realized profit):
- Vanguard, Oracle, Ember, Phoenix Legacy, Ash Turbo and Thunderbolt Turbo: 5 valid days
- Ash Classic, Thunderbolt Classic and Phoenix Classic: no valid-day minimum
The counter resets after each successful payout.
Horizon funded accounts require per payout 3 valid days up to $50,000, 4 above $50,000 and below $200,000, and 5 from $200,000. Odyssey funded accounts require 3 below $100,000 and 4 from $100,000. Each valid day earns at least 0.5% of the initial balance.
- Lightning, Nexus, Dual Step: 3 days minimum (0.5% profit each)
- Bolt and Bolt Flex: No minimum profitable trading days
- Standard: Bi-weekly (14 days)
- With add-on (+25%): Weekly (7 days)
- Bolt and Bolt Flex: Bi-weekly (14 days); On-Demand Payouts add-on (+25%) available
- All programs except Bolt and Bolt Flex: No consistency rule
- Bolt: 20% best day cap
- Bolt Flex: 25% best day cap
Allowed, including third-party EAs, bots and trade or risk managers, as long as the trading rules are followed. HFT, tick scalping, latency arbitrage, emulators and running the same EA with the same settings as other traders are prohibited.
Not explicitly prohibited, but strongly discouraged. Use of VPN/VPS during KYC/AML verification is prohibited and can result in the account not being funded or being closed. If suspicious activity is detected, VPN usage will be used against the trader in the review.
Prohibited, also within the same account and across multiple accounts.
Multiple challenges and funded accounts combinable under a single user profile, as long as total funded capital does not exceed $1,500,000 across all Upcomers programs.
Maximum of 2 positions simultaneously
Maximum loss per trade in the funded phase (all positions on the same instrument and direction count as one trade):
- Ash Classic, Thunderbolt Classic and Phoenix Classic: 3%
- Phoenix Legacy, Odyssey, Vanguard and Oracle: 2%
- Ash Turbo, Thunderbolt Turbo, Horizon and Ember: 1.5%
Exceeding the applicable limit is a hard breach.
Only between accounts owned by the same person (Upcomers, other prop firms or brokers). Copying to or from other people's accounts and signal services are prohibited.
Traders may use copy trading across multiple Think Capital accounts. That said, copying trades from personal accounts or from accounts with other proprietary firms is not allowed.
If you wish to copy trades between different prop firm accounts, your Think Capital account must be set as the primary (master) account.
- Dual Step (Swing): Allowed by default
- Lightning, Nexus and Dual Step (Intraday): Only allowed with add-on
- Bolt and Bolt Flex: Not allowed
Rule for products where news trading requires the add-on:
- No trades, including limit and stop orders, may be executed 2 minutes before and 2 minutes after a high-impact news event (total of 4 minutes).
- Any activity during this 4-minute window will result in immediate termination of the funded agreement, account cancellation, and forfeiture of any profits.
35 consecutive calendar days without a trade closes the account automatically. Warning email sent 7 days before expiration.
30 days
Consistency is checked at payout and does not breach the account:
- 20% Best Day Rule: current Classic, Legacy and Turbo challenges, Vanguard, Oracle and Ember
The Best Day cycle resets after each successful payout. - Horizon and Odyssey: no consistency or Best Day Rule in evaluation or funded accounts.
Lightning, Nexus and Dual Step: allowed. Bolt and Bolt Flex: require the Weekend Holding add-on (+15%).
- Emulators, and running the same EA with the same settings as other traders to produce identical trades.
- Tick scalping (trades held under 2 minutes on Oracle) and high-frequency trading (HFT).
- Martingale, grid trading, one-sided bets, reverse trading and hedging (also within the same account).
- News straddling (bracket orders placed around economic releases).
- Signal services and copying trades from other people's accounts.
- Team/group trading or executing identical trades across accounts to bypass the $1.5M cap.
- Sharing passwords, account access or identity (KYC).
- Exploiting platform bugs, delays or pricing errors.
- Opening multiple user profiles (One Person, One Account policy).
- Splitting trades intentionally to bypass the 20% Best Day Rule.
- Copy Trading
- Grid (Reverse) Trading
- Hedging or Group Hedging Across Multiple Accounts
- Collusion Between Users
- Account Sharing, Account Management, or Account Sale
- Latency Arbitrage
- High-Frequency Trading (HFT)
- Abuse of a Delayed Data Feed
- Abuse of the Simulated Environment
- Trading on Delayed Charts
- Utilization of Expert Advisors
- Challenge Passing Services
- Martingale Trading
- Use of Guarantee of Compliance with Limit Orders
- Trading in Sanctioned Countries
- Trading Activity: Soft Breaches/Warnings
- Use of Platform or Data Freezing Due to Technical Errors
- News Trading
- Order Layering
- Gambling/Punting

















