/
Login
Breaking
All news
Comparator

Futures firms comparator

Pick two prop firms and see them side by side: rules, plans, platforms, leverage, commissions and payouts, next to each one's discount.

  • Field by field, side by side
  • Only the differences in one click
  • Link to the written comparison
Read the comparison
Head to head

48 differences

50%off · Exclusive
48%off · Exclusive
Headquarters

100 Crescent Ct, Unit 700, Dallas, Texas 75201, US

450 Lexington Ave, New York, NY 10017

CEO

Dylan Elchami

No data
Country

United States

United States

Foundation

2021

2026

Banned Countries
Afghanistan, Albania, Algeria, Angola, Antarctica, Bahamas, Barbados, Belarus, Bosnia & Herzegovina, Botswana, Bulgaria, Burkina Faso, Burma (Myanmar), Burundi, Cambodia, Cameroon, Central African Republic, Chad, China, Congo, Côte d'Ivoire, Crimea, Croatia, Cuba, Democratic Republic of Congo, Djibouti, Ethiopia, Ghana, Gibraltar, Guinea-Bissau, Haiti, Iceland, Indonesia, Iran, Iraq, Jamaica, Jordan, Kenya, Kosovo, Laos, Lebanon, Lesotho, Liberia, Libya, Macedonia, Malawi, Mali, Mauritius, Mongolia, Montenegro, Mozambique, Myanmar, Namibia, Nicaragua, Nigeria, North Korea, Pakistan, Palestine, State of, Panama, Papua New Guinea, Philippines, Qatar, Romania, Russia, Rwanda, Senegal, Serbia, Sierra Leone, Slovenia, Somalia, South Africa, South Sudan, Sri Lanka, Sudan, Syria, Tajikistan, Tanzania, Timor-Leste, Trinidad and Tobago, Tunisia, Turkey, Uganda, Ukraine, United Arab Emirates, Venezuela, Vietnam, Yemen, Zambia, Zimbabwe
Afghanistan, Cuba, Iran, Iraq, Libya, North Korea, Palestine, Somalia, South Sudan, Sudan, Syria
Assets
Futures
Indices, Forex, Commodities
Brokers
No data
Rithmic
Payout Fee

E8 charges no payout fee. WorkMarket or Rise may charge a processing fee depending on the selected withdrawal method.

No Boxcar payout fee.

Platforms
Tradovate
RTrader Pro, NinjaTrader, MotiveWave, Quantower, Sierra Chart, Jigsaw, Bookmap, ATAS, MultiCharts
Payout Methods
Transfer, Crypto, Rise
Transfer, Crypto
Live Account
No

Challenge and SimFi Performance accounts are simulated. Futures market data is sourced from CME.

Yes

Evaluation and initial funding are simulated. Prime, Flex and Funded reach live review after 5 approved payouts. Payout triggers review at USD 6,000 / 8,000 / 10,000 / 12,000 daily profit for 25K / 50K / 100K / 150K; the risk team may also initiate review. Approval, KYC and a separate agreement are required. One live account per eligible funded account with at least one payout.
Live starts at USD 0 with size-based EOD drawdown of USD 1,000 / 2,000 / 3,000 / 4,500, no DLL and exchange-specific position scaling. The floor locks at USD 100 upon earning profit equal to the starting drawdown or requesting an earlier payout. Daily requests when eligible.
Moving live closes all household simulated accounts; accounts without payouts are refunded. Prime, Flex and Funded forfeit remaining simulated profit, apart from an eligible final payout. Payout may settle profit above the buffer, capped at USD 15,000 combined with the usual split, after broker verification; the prior close is used and the transition session is excluded. Standard cooldown after a live breach: 2 weeks.

Payment Methods
Card, Crypto
Card
Payout Frequency
  • Signature Futures: on demand once all payout requirements are met.
  • Zero Starter and Zero Max: daily, minimum $100.

Payout: daily requests when eligible. Prime: from 3 days; Flex and Funded: from 5 days per cycle. Plaid: instant delivery to US banks; WorkMarket by ADP: 2 days for international banks. Prior review and approval required.

Maximum Withdrawal

E8 Signature Futures

Payout $25K $50K $100K $150K
1st–2nd $1,000 $1,250 $2,250 $3,250
3rd–4th $1,250 $2,250 $3,250 $4,250
5th $1,500 $3,250 $4,250 $5,250

E8 Zero Starter

  • $50K: $1,000
  • $100K: $1,600
  • $200K: $2,100

E8 Zero Max

  • $50K: $3,000
  • $100K: $5,000
  • $200K: $7,000

Signature Futures and Zero allow a maximum of 5 payouts per account; after the fifth, the account closes and a free Challenge of the same size is issued.

Gross amounts, in 25K / 50K / 100K / 150K order:

  • Prime: first payout USD 1,000 / 2,000 / 2,500 / 3,000; later payouts USD 1,500 / 2,500 / 3,000 / 3,500.
  • Flex: up to 50% of cycle profit, capped at USD 1,000 / 2,000 / 2,500 / 3,000.
  • Payout: available profit above the buffer, with no additional per-request cap.
  • Funded: payouts 1-3, USD 1,000 / 2,000 / 2,500 / 3,000; payouts 4-5, USD 1,000 / 2,500 / 3,000 / 3,500.
Minimum Withdrawal

$100

USD 500 gross per request, before the split.

Other Payout Requirements

Payouts require successful onboarding and KYC with WorkMarket or Rise. If neither provider accepts the trader, E8 cannot process the payout.

Cycle profit goals, in 25K / 50K / 100K / 150K order:

  • Prime: USD 250 / 500 / 750 / 1,000.
  • Funded: first cycle USD 1,500 / 3,000 / 6,000 / 9,000; later cycles USD 1,250 / 2,500 / 3,500 / 4,500.
    Flex and Payout need a net-positive cycle. Each approval starts a new cycle. Minimum age: 18. Identity verification is required; businesses receive payment in their own name and provide formation, ownership and IDs for owners holding at least 25%. One permanent personal or business profile per trader, with no conversion or replacement. Requests are final and submitted through support.
Commission
No data

USD per contract per side; round trip = twice the rate:

  • ES, NQ, RTY, NKD, YM: 1.75.
  • 6A, 6B, 6C, 6E, 6J, 6S, 6N: 2.40.
  • CL, QM, NG: 2.00; QG: 1.30.
  • PL, GC, SI, HG: 2.30.
  • HE, LE, ZS, ZC, ZL, ZM, ZW: 2.80.
  • MES, MNQ, M2K, MYM, MCL: 0.50; MGC: 0.80; SIL: 1.60.
    CME, CBOT, NYMEX and COMEX contracts. QM, QG and NKD count as minis. MNG and MHG are unavailable. Live costs follow onboarding terms.
Account Reset

After an account fails, a 10% discount is available for 7 days to retry the same account size and settings.

Active or failed evaluations and purchased direct-funded BoxcarFunded accounts can be reset. A reset replaces the account with the same plan and retains its history. Cost is the lower of the original amount paid for that account and its current reset price. Free accounts pay the current reset price. Funding earned by passing an evaluation needs a new evaluation after a breach; live accounts cannot be reset.

Add-ons
Yes

Zero Starter and Zero Max allow the payout share to be increased from the 80% base configuration to 100% at checkout.

Yes

Level II: USD 13/month for CME only or USD 39/month for all four exchanges. Rithmic server-side copier: USD 15/month across all accounts on the login. An optional second login is also offered in the portal, with no confirmed public price.

Instant
No
Yes

BoxcarFunded starts directly in simulated funding.

One Step
Yes
Yes

Prime, Flex and Payout have one evaluation.

Account scaling
No
No data
Max Drawdown

EOD Dynamic Drawdown based on the highest end-of-day balance. Intraday equity does not move it. It locks permanently at the initial balance level.

EOD trailing on Prime, Flex and Funded. Payout offers EOD or intraday in evaluation; funded is always intraday, including open profit. The floor never falls and stops at starting balance + USD 100, reached at starting balance + MLL + USD 100. A Flex payout request also locks the floor. Touching the floor, including through open losses, breaches the account.

Profit Split
  • Signature Futures: 80%.
  • Zero Starter/Max: 80% base; 100% can be selected at checkout.
No data
Free Trial
No
No data
Daily Drawdown
  • Signature Challenge: none.
  • Signature Performance: 2% Daily Pause (soft breach; trading resumes the next day).
  • Zero Challenge and Performance: none.

Prime, Flex and Payout offer a DLL at purchase; the choice carries to both stages and cannot change. Hitting it closes positions and locks trading until the next session, without itself breaching the MLL. On funded Prime and Funded, the DLL becomes 60% of peak EOD profit after closing above the initial trail balance, and can only grow. Flex and Payout keep a fixed DLL; Funded 25K never acquires one.

Max Allocation
  • Challenge stage: unlimited accounts.
  • Signature Futures: up to 5 active Performance accounts.
  • Zero Starter/Max: up to 3 active Performance accounts. Limits apply per household.
750,000
Mandatory buffer
Limited

Signature requires leaving a non-withdrawable buffer equal to the EOD Dynamic Drawdown before payouts. On Zero, any profit left after a payout remains as buffer and cannot be requested in a later cycle.

Limited

Prime and Payout must retain starting balance + MLL + USD 100 after a payout. Flex has no additional buffer but must respect its loss floor. Funded applies cycle goals and caps as well as loss-floor protection.

Merge Accounts
No
No data
Maximum Trading Days

Unlimited, but the account closes after 7 days of inactivity.

No fixed deadline to pass. Inactivity rules still apply.

Minimum Trading Days
  • Signature Futures: can pass in 1 day.
  • Zero Starter/Max: earliest pass in 3 days because of the 40% Best Day rule.

Prime evaluation: a 1-day pass is possible. Flex and Payout have no separate fixed minimum beyond consistency. Payouts: Prime from 3 days; Funded requires 5 trading days per cycle; Payout allows daily requests when other conditions are met.

Funded Phase Pricing Model

No activation fee or recurring subscription.

No activation charge after passing and no account subscription.

Minimum Profitable Days
  • Signature: 5 profitable days between payouts after the first payout; a profitable day requires at least 0.3% realized profit.
  • Zero Starter/Max: no minimum profitable days in Performance.

Funded Flex: 5 separate days per cycle, each with at least USD 100 / 150 / 200 / 250 net profit for 25K / 50K / 100K / 150K. Day counts restart after payout approval.

Position size scaling
Limited

Only Zero Performance accounts scale contract allowance. At 1.5% locked profit the first level unlocks the next day; at 3% the second level unlocks. Signature and Zero Challenge contract limits do not scale.

Limited

Only Flex sim-funded scales contracts with accumulated closing profit; losses or payouts can lower its tier. Prime, Payout and Funded retain full limits. Live scaling is confirmed per exchange.

Evaluation Phase Pricing Model

One-time fee. No subscription.

One-time purchase with no automatic renewal. Platform and Level I data included. Breaches, lack of use or a change of mind do not normally qualify for refunds; duplicate or incorrect charges, missing access and statutory rights are reviewed. An unused purchase may receive discretionary review before any order or trade.

Maximum Accounts
No data

Unlimited evaluations and up to 5 active funded accounts across plans. Additional direct-funded purchases remain in reserve. No household simulated trading while a member trades live.

Expert Advisor (EA)
No

Semi-automated and fully automated trading, including bots, AI tools and HFT above 300 trades per day, is prohibited on Futures.

Yes

Own automated strategies are allowed on evaluations and simulated-funded accounts, subject to all account rules. Software errors and HFT restrictions still apply.

Hedging
No

Futures accounts use a netting system. Hedging across multiple accounts or users is prohibited.

Limited

Opposing different products or mini/micro pairs are allowed within one evaluation or sim-funded account. Long and short in the same exact contract, or opposing same/correlated products across accounts, including other traders or firms, are prohibited. Same-account exceptions do not carry over to live. A first violation may return balances to the prior close; repeated violations may breach accounts and end access.

Scalping
Limited

At least 50% of total profit must come from trades held for 10 seconds or longer.

Limited

Realistic scalping is allowed. More than 50% of profit from trades lasting 5 seconds or less may trigger review. A flag is not automatic failure; confirmed or repeated exploitation may lead to profit removal and loss of access.

Stacking / Layering (DCA)
No data
Yes

DCA and scaling into positions within contract and loss limits.

Martingale
No data
Yes

Permitted within account limits, although Boxcar strongly discourages it.

Maximum Risk Limit
Limited

There is no fixed percentage risk cap, but irresponsible, all-or-nothing or disproportionate risk-taking can trigger review or account termination.

No data
Copy Trading
Limited

Allowed only between accounts owned by the same trader. Team trading, signals and copying another trader are prohibited.

Limited

Across your own Boxcar accounts, using built-in or third-party copiers. Each account keeps its own limits. Credential sharing and trading for others are prohibited.

News Trading
Yes
Limited

Allowed on Prime, Flex, Funded and Payout evaluation. Funded Payout must be flat from 1 minute before through 1 minute after high-impact USD news on the Forex Factory calendar; violations breach the account. Cancel pending entries and pause automation. Live has separate terms.

Inactivity Rule
Yes

The account closes after 7 days without opening and closing at least one trade.

At least one closed trade with USD 1 net profit or loss in every 30-calendar-day period. Otherwise the account may be permanently removed. Breached evaluations may be removed after 30 days without a reset.

Consistency Rule
Limited
  • Zero Challenge: 40% Best Day rule; if the best day exceeds 40% of total profit, the effective target increases.
  • Zero Performance: no consistency rule.
  • Signature Challenge: no consistency rule.
  • Signature Performance: 35% Best Day rule for payout eligibility.
Limited

Prime: none in evaluation, 40% per funded cycle. Flex and Payout: nominal 50% in evaluation plus a 2-point cushion, an effective 52% ceiling; no funded consistency. Funded: 20% per cycle. Best net day divided by total net profit; fees and losing days count. Missing consistency delays passing or payouts without itself breaching drawdown.

Hold Weekend
No
No

Evaluation and sim-funded positions must close before weekends and exchange early closes.

Prohibited Strategies
  • Exploiting gaps, illiquid markets, pricing errors or slow data feeds
  • Semi-automated or fully automated trading, bots, AI tools and HFT above 300 trades/day
  • Trading within 2% of a CME product lock limit
  • Irresponsible or all-or-nothing trading
  • Hedging across accounts or users
  • Tick scalping where less than 50% of profit comes from trades held at least 10 seconds
  • Trading anything other than the front-month contract
  • Account rolling and strategies that are not reproducible in real markets

Exploitative HFT, latency or delayed prices, unrealistic simulated fills, technical defects, spoofing, layering, prohibited coordination or hedging, and trading for others. Brief flipping to count trading days is allowed but does not replace minimum-profit days or payout goals.

Overnight positions
No

All positions are forcibly closed every trading day at 15:10 CT. Trading is permitted from 17:00 to 15:10 CT.

No

Trading during the overnight session is allowed, but positions cannot cross the daily close: flatten by 16:45 ET and re-enter from 18:00 ET in the next open session. Scheduled automatic flattening is not a breach. Live follows its own schedule.

Free newsletter

Pick your firms. Get what matters.

  • Exclusive promotions, updated daily
  • Funded trading industry news
  • Full control: you choose which firms to follow

FreeNo spamOne-click unsubscribe

Community

Join the community

Join us on our mission to become the most influential family in funded trading.

  • trade-ideasTrading ideas from the community
  • giveawaysGiveaways from prop firms
  • respect-leaderboardTop 10 by Respect earned
  • wins-and-lossesFundings, payouts and blown accounts
Join the Discord