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Suite 302, 2 Pembroke Street Upper, Dublin, Dublin 2, Ireland
Suite 4.3.02, Block 4, Eurotowers, Gibraltar, GX11 1AA
Peter Brown, David Bhidey
Ireland
Gibraltar
2024
2023
Express to Live converts the CASH account to LIVE after reaching its CASH target and requesting the first payout through “Switch to Live”. Phidias states that the full path from signup to first payout and LIVE conversion can be completed in 48 hours on every E2L size. Fundamental and Premium may transition to LIVE after 5 payouts or $100,000 in cumulative profits, subject to the risk team’s discretion.
- Standard and Expert: Every 14 calendar days from first trade on funded account. Minimum $100.
- Straight to Sim Live: Every 14 calendar days. Minimum 3% of account balance ($450 on $15K, $900 on $30K, $1,800 on $60K, $2,400 on $80K).
Fundamental: every 10 qualifying trading days. Premium: every 5 qualifying days. LIVE from Express to Live: daily.
Phidias states that 90% of payouts are processed in under 30 minutes and all payouts within 24 hours.
Standard and Expert
- $50,000 Account → $5,000
- $100,000 Account → $10,000
- $150,000 Account → $15,000
Straight to Live Sim
- $15K → $3,000
- $30K → $6,000
- $60K → $12,000
- $80K → $15,000
Withdrawals Structure
Withdrawals follow a tier-based structure, where the percentage of profits available for withdrawal increases with each payout:
- Payout 1 → 60% of the total profits (On Standrad and Expert only profits above the buffer count)
- Payout 2 → 70%
- Payout 3 → 80%
- Payout 4 → 90%
- Payout 5 and onwards → 100%
Fundamental and Premium: up to $2,000 per cycle on 50K, $2,500 on 100K, and $2,750 on 150K. LIVE accounts originating from Express to Live have no maximum daily limit.
- Standard and Expert: $100
- Straight to Live Sim: 3% of balance
$500.
Fundamental and Premium apply a 30% consistency rule on CASH accounts. A qualifying day must generate at least $150 on 50K, $200 on 100K, or $250 on 150K. Express to Live uses a separate bonus and automatic LIVE conversion system.
Only available for evaluation accounts
| Account Type | $50,000 Account | $100,000 Account | $150,000 Account |
|---|---|---|---|
| Standard | $79.00 | $125.00 | $199.00 |
| Expert | $125.00 | $225.00 | $299.00 |
Fundamental and Premium allow unlimited evaluation resets. A failed subscription also resets with the next 30-day renewal. Express to Live does not allow resets. Premium CASH permits one funded-account reset.
Profit Split Increase (+10%)
- Standard: 80% to 90%
- Expert and Direct to Sim Live: 90% to 100%
Remove Daily Drawdown (+10%)
- Only available for Expert account
Market-depth data and additional exchanges can be purchased from the member area.
LIVE accounts may advance to ELITE after 60 days and a $125,000 balance, or MASTER after 120 days and $250,000. Transition remains subject to risk review.
EOD (End of Day Balance)
Express to Live uses a static drawdown that never moves. Fundamental and Premium use trailing drawdown calculated at the end of the day; the limit remains fixed during the session.
Standard and Expert Accounts
Tier-based withdrawal structure:
- Payout 1: 60% of amount above buffer zone
- Payout 2: 70%
- Payout 3: 80%
- Payout 4: 90%
- Payout 5+: 100%
Straight to Sim Live
- Base split: 90% trader / 10% firm
- 100% available with checkout add-on
- Same tier-based withdrawal (60→100% per payout)
Express to Live and Fundamental: 80%. Premium: 75% on the first payout, 80% on the second, 85% on the third, 90% on the fourth, and 100% from the fifth onward.
In all accounts
There is no daily loss limit on Express to Live, Fundamental, or Premium.
5 active accounts across the Evaluation and Funded stages combined, and one Sim Live account
Standard Accounts
- $50,000 Account → $500
- $100,000 Account → $1,000
- $150,000 Account → $1,500
Expert Accounts
- $50,000 Account → $1,000
- $100,000 Account → $1,500
- $150,000 Account → $2,000
A minimum threshold applies when requesting a payout, but withdrawals may reduce the balance to $50,100, $100,100, or $150,100. Phidias does not treat this as a locked buffer.
- Standard evaluation phase: 4 days to pass
- Expert evaluation phase: 3 days to pass
Evaluation: 0 days on Express to Live, 3 on Fundamental, and 1 on Premium. CASH: 0 days for the Express to Live bonus, 10 qualifying days between payouts on Fundamental, and 5 on Premium.
Lifetime activation fee
Phidias Wallet centralizes account subscriptions, bank or cryptocurrency withdrawals, purchases, activations, and LIVE-account funding directly from earnings. Phidias Points are an internal unit that cannot be transferred outside the ecosystem.
On Fundamental and Premium CASH accounts, a qualifying day must close with at least $150 on 50K, $200 on 100K, or $250 on 150K.
On LIVE accounts, traders may request a contract-limit increase in writing. The risk team may approve, reject, or adjust the limit.
Montly fee
Unlimited evaluation accounts. A trader may operate a LIVE account while pursuing a new evaluation. Simultaneous maximum: 5 Fundamental CASH, 5 Premium CASH, and 5 Express to Live CASH/LIVE accounts. The 10K Drawdown Summer Edition allows unlimited simultaneous entries, with only the trader’s best account counting on the leaderboard. Fundamental and Premium 150K accounts count as two slots in their category.
Robots, fully automated algorithms, and HFT are prohibited. Semi-automated software is allowed when the trader actively monitors and manually adjusts every trade.
Hedging is prohibited on the same underlying within one account (including ES vs MES), between CASH accounts, and through coordinated opposite trades between traders; violations can close all involved accounts and lead to a ban. Multiple assets may be traded simultaneously, but the contract cap applies across all symbols; bypassing it can close the account without refund.
Micro scalping not allow (trades executed within seconds to under a minute, targeting small profits, typically less than 3 points.
DCA is allowed to smooth entry points, provided consistent risk management is maintained.
Phidias requires consistent position sizing and risk management. Lottery-style trading, excessive margin usage, or non-replicable patterns may lead to reduced contracts or account closure.
Copy trading allowed but NOT enabled by default. Requires submission of a request for review and approval (case-by-case basis). Documentation needed: HTML trading history of master account with 3+ months history, displaying client's own name. Only permitted between accounts owned by the same user.
Allowed within the maximum account limits. Identical strategies exceeding the authorized allocation may result in account suspension.
No inactivity rule. Funded accounts will NOT be closed for inactivity. Accounts remain active as long as trading parameters are respected.
- Standard: 30% consistency rule (applies to both Challenge and Funded stages)
- Expert: 40% consistency rule (applies to Funded stage only)
- Straight to Sim Live: 20% consistency rule
There is no consistency rule during evaluation or on Express to Live. On Fundamental and Premium CASH accounts, no single day may represent more than 30% of total profit. It is calculated over at least 4 days.
Allowed only on Premium. Fundamental and Express to Live must close before the end of the session.
- All or Nothing Approach: max leverage on single position using loss limits as stop-loss
- Tick or Micro Scalping: trades with <10 ticks movement
- Exploiting Favorable Fills (no slippage exploitation, tight brackets)
- Account Rolling
- Reverse Trading (opposite positions on separate accounts)
- Manipulating Gaps and Illiquid Markets
- Group Trading
- Account Management (third-party trading on your behalf)
- Latency Arbitrage
Robots and fully automated trading; HFT; lottery-style or full-margin trades during high-volatility news; old or illiquid contracts; spreads between expirations; one-tick Treasury-bond arbitrage; exploitation of technical or market errors.
Allowed only on Premium. Fundamental and Express to Live must close before the end of the session.



















