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Headquarters

Suite 302, 2 Pembroke Street Upper, Dublin, Dublin 2, Ireland

Building A1, IFZA Business Park, Dubai Silicon Oasis, Dubai, United Arab Emirates

CEO

Peter Brown, David Bhidey

Jakub Zeliska

Country

Ireland

United Arab Emirates

Foundation

2024

2023

Banned Countries
Romania, Russia, Senegal, Serbia, Slovenia, Somalia, South Africa, South Sudan, Sudan, Syria, Sri Lanka, Tanzania, Trinidad and Tobago, Tunisia, Turkey, Uganda, Ukraine, United Arab Emirates, Venezuela, Vietnam, Yemen, Zimbabwe
Afghanistan, Central African Republic, Crimea, Donetsk and Luhansk regions of Ukraine, Cuba, Iran, Iraq, Kosovo, Libya, Mali, Myanmar, North Korea, Palestine, Russia, Somalia, South Sudan, Sudan, Syria, Vanuatu, Venezuela
Assets
No data
Equity Indexes, Metals, Energy, Currencies, Rates, Grains, Livestock, Crypto
Brokers
Alchemy Markets
No data
Payout Fee
No data

Bank transfer: USD 19.90 + 2.49%. Crypto: USD 19.90 + 30%; reduced to USD 19.90 + 2.49% when more than 50% of the trader's purchases were paid in crypto.

Platforms
NinjaTrader, Tradingview, Tradovate
Upcomers X, Volumetrica
Payout Methods
Rise
Bank Transfer, Crypto
Live Account
No data
No

Futures accounts are simulated (sim-funded).

Payment Methods
Card
Card, Crypto, PayPal, Apple Pay, Google Pay
Payout Frequency
  • Standard and Expert: Every 14 calendar days from first trade on funded account. Minimum $100.
  • Straight to Sim Live: Every 14 calendar days. Minimum 3% of account balance ($450 on $15K, $900 on $30K, $1,800 on $60K, $2,400 on $80K).

Classic: whenever the conditions are met. Vanguard: after 5 qualifying days for the first payout. Upcomers states same-day processing after approval.

Maximum Withdrawal

Standard and Expert

  • $50,000 Account → $5,000
  • $100,000 Account → $10,000
  • $150,000 Account → $15,000

Straight to Live Sim

  • $15K → $3,000
  • $30K → $6,000
  • $60K → $12,000
  • $80K → $15,000

Withdrawals Structure

Withdrawals follow a tier-based structure, where the percentage of profits available for withdrawal increases with each payout:

  • Payout 1 → 60% of the total profits (On Standrad and Expert only profits above the buffer count)
  • Payout 2 → 70%
  • Payout 3 → 80%
  • Payout 4 → 90%
  • Payout 5 and onwards → 100%

Classic (payouts 1–5): 25K 500/1,000/1,500/1,500/1,500; 50K 800/1,600/2,400/3,000/3,000; 100K 1,400/2,800/4,200/5,000/6,000; 150K 2,000/4,000/5,000/5,000/9,000; 200K 2,600/5,000/5,000/5,000/12,000; 300K 3,700/5,000/5,000/5,000/18,000; 400K 4,700/5,000/5,000/5,000/23,500 USD. Vanguard (payouts 1–7): 25K 500/1,000/1,500/1,500/1,500/1,500/1,500; 50K 1,000/2,000/3,000/3,000/3,000/3,000/3,000; 100K 1,600/3,200/4,800/5,000/6,000/6,000/6,000; 150K 1,900/3,800/5,000/5,000/9,000/9,000/9,000; 200K 2,300/4,600/5,000/5,000/11,500/12,000/12,000; 300K 3,100/5,000/5,000/5,000/15,500/18,000/18,000 USD. The checkout sells Vanguard 400K, but the current public table does not yet publish its cap; confirm with support.

Minimum Withdrawal
  • Standard and Expert: $100
  • Straight to Live Sim: 3% of balance

USD 100.

Other Payout Requirements
No data

Realized profit and all positions closed; at least 1% profit since the previous payout. 20% Best Day Rule. Before the first payout, Vanguard requires 5 profitable days with at least 0.5% profit each.

Commission
No data
Account Reset

Only available for evaluation accounts

 

Account Type $50,000 Account $100,000 Account $150,000 Account
Standard $79.00 $125.00 $199.00
Expert $125.00 $225.00 $299.00
Limited

Resets are available when offered by Upcomers. A rule-violation reset permanently limits future payouts on that account to 50%.

Add-ons
Yes

Profit Split Increase (+10%)

  • Standard: 80% to 90%
  • Expert and Direct to Sim Live: 90% to 100%

Remove Daily Drawdown (+10%)

  • Only available for Expert account
No
Instant
Yes
Yes

Vanguard offers instant funding with no evaluation.

One Step
Yes
Yes

Thunderbolt Classic is a one-step evaluation with a 6% target.

Account scaling
No
Yes

+35% every 4 months, up to USD 4,000,000, with 15% cumulative growth, at least 2 payouts and a positive final cycle.

Two Steps
No
No data
Max Drawdown

EOD (End of Day Balance)

Real-time trailing: 4% on Classic and 3% on Vanguard. It locks at the initial balance after the account grows by that same percentage.

Profit Split

Standard and Expert Accounts
Tier-based withdrawal structure:

  • Payout 1: 60% of amount above buffer zone
  • Payout 2: 70%
  • Payout 3: 80%
  • Payout 4: 90%
  • Payout 5+: 100%

Straight to Sim Live

  • Base split: 90% trader / 10% firm
  • 100% available with checkout add-on
  • Same tier-based withdrawal (60→100% per payout)

90% selected for these prices. Checkout also allows 80% or 100%, adjusting the price.

Free Trial
No
Limited

Thunderbolt Classic includes an optional Trial Phase; Vanguard has no evaluation.

Daily Drawdown

In all accounts

Classic: 3% in evaluation and 2% when funded. Vanguard: 2%. Resets at 5:00 PM ET.

Max Allocation

5 active accounts across the Evaluation and Funded stages combined, and one Sim Live account

1,500,000
Mandatory buffer
Yes

Standard Accounts

  • $50,000 Account → $500
  • $100,000 Account → $1,000
  • $150,000 Account → $1,500

Expert Accounts

  • $50,000 Account → $1,000
  • $100,000 Account → $1,500
  • $150,000 Account → $2,000
No
Merge Accounts
No
No data
Maximum Trading Days
No data

No time limit to pass Classic; all futures accounts close after 14 calendar days without closing a trade.

Minimum Trading Days
  • Standard evaluation phase: 4 days to pass
  • Expert evaluation phase: 3 days to pass

Classic can be passed in 1 day. Vanguard has no evaluation.

Funded Phase Pricing Model

Lifetime activation fee

No activation fee or recurring platform/data subscription stated by Upcomers.

Minimum Profitable Days
No data

Vanguard requires 5 days with at least 0.5% profit each before the first payout; they do not need to be consecutive.

Position size scaling
No
No

The contract limit depends on account size and does not drop after funding.

Evaluation Phase Pricing Model

Montly fee

One-time payment based on program, size and profit split. The table shows the regular 90% price before any promotional code.

Maximum Accounts
No data

No fixed account-count limit; total funded capital cannot exceed USD 1,500,000 across all Upcomers programs.

Expert Advisor (EA)
No
Limited

Bots and automation are allowed when the strategy is unique and responsible; no HFT, tick scalping, arbitrage, feed abuse or mass-shared strategies.

VPN
Yes
Limited

Upcomers' general VPN/VPS and identity-verification rules apply.

Hedging
No
Limited

Allowed within the same account; coordinating opposite positions across accounts or people to bypass rules is prohibited.

Requires Stop Loss
No
No
Scalping
Yes

Micro scalping not allow (trades executed within seconds to under a minute, targeting small profits, typically less than 3 points.

Limited

Normal scalping is allowed; tick scalping and latency exploitation are prohibited.

Stacking / Layering (DCA)
Yes
Yes
Martingale
No data
No
Maximum Risk Limit
No data
Yes

Hard maximum loss of 1.5% of account size per open trade. Positions in the same instrument and direction count as one trade.

Copy Trading
Yes

Copy trading allowed but NOT enabled by default. Requires submission of a request for review and approval (case-by-case basis). Documentation needed: HTML trading history of master account with 3+ months history, displaying client's own name. Only permitted between accounts owned by the same user.

Limited

Allowed between your own accounts; prohibited between different people.

News Trading
Yes
Yes
Inactivity Rule

No inactivity rule. Funded accounts will NOT be closed for inactivity. Accounts remain active as long as trading parameters are respected.

Yes

Automatic closure after 14 calendar days without closing a trade; the clock starts at purchase and resets with every closed trade.

Consistency Rule
Yes
  • Standard: 30% consistency rule (applies to both Challenge and Funded stages)
  • Expert: 40% consistency rule (applies to Funded stage only)
  • Straight to Sim Live: 20% consistency rule
Yes

20% Best Day Rule: the best day cannot represent more than 20% of total profit when requesting a payout.

Hold Weekend
No
Yes
Prohibited Strategies
  • All or Nothing Approach: max leverage on single position using loss limits as stop-loss
  • Tick or Micro Scalping: trades with <10 ticks movement
  • Exploiting Favorable Fills (no slippage exploitation, tight brackets)
  • Account Rolling
  • Reverse Trading (opposite positions on separate accounts)
  • Manipulating Gaps and Illiquid Markets
  • Group Trading
  • Account Management (third-party trading on your behalf)
  • Latency Arbitrage

HFT, tick scalping, arbitrage or latency abuse, feed/price abuse, mass-shared strategies, martingale, account rolling and any practice designed to exploit the simulated environment.

Overnight positions
No
Yes
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