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Suite 302, 2 Pembroke Street Upper, Dublin, Dublin 2, Ireland
Building A1, IFZA Business Park, Dubai Silicon Oasis, Dubai, United Arab Emirates
Peter Brown, David Bhidey
Jakub Zeliska
Ireland
United Arab Emirates
2024
2023
Bank transfer: USD 19.90 + 2.49%. Crypto: USD 19.90 + 30%; reduced to USD 19.90 + 2.49% when more than 50% of the trader's purchases were paid in crypto.
Futures accounts are simulated (sim-funded).
- Standard and Expert: Every 14 calendar days from first trade on funded account. Minimum $100.
- Straight to Sim Live: Every 14 calendar days. Minimum 3% of account balance ($450 on $15K, $900 on $30K, $1,800 on $60K, $2,400 on $80K).
Classic: whenever the conditions are met. Vanguard: after 5 qualifying days for the first payout. Upcomers states same-day processing after approval.
Standard and Expert
- $50,000 Account → $5,000
- $100,000 Account → $10,000
- $150,000 Account → $15,000
Straight to Live Sim
- $15K → $3,000
- $30K → $6,000
- $60K → $12,000
- $80K → $15,000
Withdrawals Structure
Withdrawals follow a tier-based structure, where the percentage of profits available for withdrawal increases with each payout:
- Payout 1 → 60% of the total profits (On Standrad and Expert only profits above the buffer count)
- Payout 2 → 70%
- Payout 3 → 80%
- Payout 4 → 90%
- Payout 5 and onwards → 100%
Classic (payouts 1–5): 25K 500/1,000/1,500/1,500/1,500; 50K 800/1,600/2,400/3,000/3,000; 100K 1,400/2,800/4,200/5,000/6,000; 150K 2,000/4,000/5,000/5,000/9,000; 200K 2,600/5,000/5,000/5,000/12,000; 300K 3,700/5,000/5,000/5,000/18,000; 400K 4,700/5,000/5,000/5,000/23,500 USD. Vanguard (payouts 1–7): 25K 500/1,000/1,500/1,500/1,500/1,500/1,500; 50K 1,000/2,000/3,000/3,000/3,000/3,000/3,000; 100K 1,600/3,200/4,800/5,000/6,000/6,000/6,000; 150K 1,900/3,800/5,000/5,000/9,000/9,000/9,000; 200K 2,300/4,600/5,000/5,000/11,500/12,000/12,000; 300K 3,100/5,000/5,000/5,000/15,500/18,000/18,000 USD. The checkout sells Vanguard 400K, but the current public table does not yet publish its cap; confirm with support.
- Standard and Expert: $100
- Straight to Live Sim: 3% of balance
USD 100.
Realized profit and all positions closed; at least 1% profit since the previous payout. 20% Best Day Rule. Before the first payout, Vanguard requires 5 profitable days with at least 0.5% profit each.
Only available for evaluation accounts
| Account Type | $50,000 Account | $100,000 Account | $150,000 Account |
|---|---|---|---|
| Standard | $79.00 | $125.00 | $199.00 |
| Expert | $125.00 | $225.00 | $299.00 |
Resets are available when offered by Upcomers. A rule-violation reset permanently limits future payouts on that account to 50%.
Profit Split Increase (+10%)
- Standard: 80% to 90%
- Expert and Direct to Sim Live: 90% to 100%
Remove Daily Drawdown (+10%)
- Only available for Expert account
Vanguard offers instant funding with no evaluation.
Thunderbolt Classic is a one-step evaluation with a 6% target.
+35% every 4 months, up to USD 4,000,000, with 15% cumulative growth, at least 2 payouts and a positive final cycle.
EOD (End of Day Balance)
Real-time trailing: 4% on Classic and 3% on Vanguard. It locks at the initial balance after the account grows by that same percentage.
Standard and Expert Accounts
Tier-based withdrawal structure:
- Payout 1: 60% of amount above buffer zone
- Payout 2: 70%
- Payout 3: 80%
- Payout 4: 90%
- Payout 5+: 100%
Straight to Sim Live
- Base split: 90% trader / 10% firm
- 100% available with checkout add-on
- Same tier-based withdrawal (60→100% per payout)
90% selected for these prices. Checkout also allows 80% or 100%, adjusting the price.
Thunderbolt Classic includes an optional Trial Phase; Vanguard has no evaluation.
In all accounts
Classic: 3% in evaluation and 2% when funded. Vanguard: 2%. Resets at 5:00 PM ET.
5 active accounts across the Evaluation and Funded stages combined, and one Sim Live account
Standard Accounts
- $50,000 Account → $500
- $100,000 Account → $1,000
- $150,000 Account → $1,500
Expert Accounts
- $50,000 Account → $1,000
- $100,000 Account → $1,500
- $150,000 Account → $2,000
No time limit to pass Classic; all futures accounts close after 14 calendar days without closing a trade.
- Standard evaluation phase: 4 days to pass
- Expert evaluation phase: 3 days to pass
Classic can be passed in 1 day. Vanguard has no evaluation.
Lifetime activation fee
No activation fee or recurring platform/data subscription stated by Upcomers.
Vanguard requires 5 days with at least 0.5% profit each before the first payout; they do not need to be consecutive.
The contract limit depends on account size and does not drop after funding.
Montly fee
One-time payment based on program, size and profit split. The table shows the regular 90% price before any promotional code.
No fixed account-count limit; total funded capital cannot exceed USD 1,500,000 across all Upcomers programs.
Bots and automation are allowed when the strategy is unique and responsible; no HFT, tick scalping, arbitrage, feed abuse or mass-shared strategies.
Upcomers' general VPN/VPS and identity-verification rules apply.
Allowed within the same account; coordinating opposite positions across accounts or people to bypass rules is prohibited.
Micro scalping not allow (trades executed within seconds to under a minute, targeting small profits, typically less than 3 points.
Normal scalping is allowed; tick scalping and latency exploitation are prohibited.
Hard maximum loss of 1.5% of account size per open trade. Positions in the same instrument and direction count as one trade.
Copy trading allowed but NOT enabled by default. Requires submission of a request for review and approval (case-by-case basis). Documentation needed: HTML trading history of master account with 3+ months history, displaying client's own name. Only permitted between accounts owned by the same user.
Allowed between your own accounts; prohibited between different people.
No inactivity rule. Funded accounts will NOT be closed for inactivity. Accounts remain active as long as trading parameters are respected.
Automatic closure after 14 calendar days without closing a trade; the clock starts at purchase and resets with every closed trade.
- Standard: 30% consistency rule (applies to both Challenge and Funded stages)
- Expert: 40% consistency rule (applies to Funded stage only)
- Straight to Sim Live: 20% consistency rule
20% Best Day Rule: the best day cannot represent more than 20% of total profit when requesting a payout.
- All or Nothing Approach: max leverage on single position using loss limits as stop-loss
- Tick or Micro Scalping: trades with <10 ticks movement
- Exploiting Favorable Fills (no slippage exploitation, tight brackets)
- Account Rolling
- Reverse Trading (opposite positions on separate accounts)
- Manipulating Gaps and Illiquid Markets
- Group Trading
- Account Management (third-party trading on your behalf)
- Latency Arbitrage
HFT, tick scalping, arbitrage or latency abuse, feed/price abuse, mass-shared strategies, martingale, account rolling and any practice designed to exploit the simulated environment.



















