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Headquarters

Suite 4.3.02, Block 4, Eurotowers, Gibraltar, GX11 1AA

Building A1, IFZA Business Park, Dubai Silicon Oasis, Dubai, United Arab Emirates

Country

Gibraltar

United Arab Emirates

Foundation

2023

2023

Banned Countries
Afghanistan, Albania, Algeria, Angola, Belarus, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Botswana, Bulgaria, Burkina Faso, Burundi, Central African Republic, Croatia, Cuba, Dem. Rep. Congo, Ecuador, Ethiopia, Guyana, Haiti, Indonesia, Iran, Iraq, Jamaica, Kenya, Kosovo, Laos, Lebanon, Libya, Macedonia, Mali, Malta, Mauritius, Montenegro, Mozambique, Myanmar (Burma), Namibia, Nicaragua, Nigeria, North Korea (DPRK), Pakistan, Papua New Guinea, Philippines, Romania, Russia, Senegal, Serbia, Slovenia, Somalia, South Africa, South Sudan, Sri Lanka, Sudan/Darfur, Syria, Tanzania, Trinidad and Tobago, Tunisia, Crimea (Ukraine), Venezuela, Yemen, Zimbabwe
Afghanistan, Central African Republic, Crimea, Donetsk and Luhansk regions of Ukraine, Cuba, Iran, Iraq, Kosovo, Libya, Mali, Myanmar, North Korea, Palestine, Russia, Somalia, South Sudan, Sudan, Syria, Vanuatu, Venezuela
CEO
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Jakub Zeliska

Assets
Indices, Interest Rates, Currencies, Cryptocurrencies, Agriculture, Energies, Metals
Equity Indexes, Metals, Energy, Currencies, Rates, Grains, Livestock, Crypto
Brokers
Dorman Trading
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Platforms
RTrader Pro, Rithmic, Tradovate, NinjaTrader, Tradingview, DeepCharts, Quantower, MotiveWave, ATAS, Sierra Chart, Bookmap, Jigsaw
Upcomers X, Volumetrica
Payout Methods
Rise, Transfer, Crypto
Bank Transfer, Crypto
Live Account
Yes

Express to Live converts the CASH account to LIVE after reaching its CASH target and requesting the first payout through “Switch to Live”. Phidias states that the full path from signup to first payout and LIVE conversion can be completed in 48 hours on every E2L size. Fundamental and Premium may transition to LIVE after 5 payouts or $100,000 in cumulative profits, subject to the risk team’s discretion.

No

Futures accounts are simulated (sim-funded).

Payment Methods
Card
Card, Crypto, PayPal, Apple Pay, Google Pay
Payout Frequency

Fundamental: every 10 qualifying trading days. Premium: every 5 qualifying days. LIVE from Express to Live: daily.

Classic: whenever the conditions are met. Vanguard: after 5 qualifying days for the first payout. Upcomers states same-day processing after approval.

Payout Guarantee

Phidias states that 90% of payouts are processed in under 30 minutes and all payouts within 24 hours.

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Maximum Withdrawal

Fundamental and Premium: up to $2,000 per cycle on 50K, $2,500 on 100K, and $2,750 on 150K. LIVE accounts originating from Express to Live have no maximum daily limit.

Classic (payouts 1–5): 25K 500/1,000/1,500/1,500/1,500; 50K 800/1,600/2,400/3,000/3,000; 100K 1,400/2,800/4,200/5,000/6,000; 150K 2,000/4,000/5,000/5,000/9,000; 200K 2,600/5,000/5,000/5,000/12,000; 300K 3,700/5,000/5,000/5,000/18,000; 400K 4,700/5,000/5,000/5,000/23,500 USD. Vanguard (payouts 1–7): 25K 500/1,000/1,500/1,500/1,500/1,500/1,500; 50K 1,000/2,000/3,000/3,000/3,000/3,000/3,000; 100K 1,600/3,200/4,800/5,000/6,000/6,000/6,000; 150K 1,900/3,800/5,000/5,000/9,000/9,000/9,000; 200K 2,300/4,600/5,000/5,000/11,500/12,000/12,000; 300K 3,100/5,000/5,000/5,000/15,500/18,000/18,000 USD. The checkout sells Vanguard 400K, but the current public table does not yet publish its cap; confirm with support.

Minimum Withdrawal

$500.

USD 100.

Other Payout Requirements

Fundamental and Premium apply a 30% consistency rule on CASH accounts. A qualifying day must generate at least $150 on 50K, $200 on 100K, or $250 on 150K. Express to Live uses a separate bonus and automatic LIVE conversion system.

Realized profit and all positions closed; at least 1% profit since the previous payout. 20% Best Day Rule. Before the first payout, Vanguard requires 5 profitable days with at least 0.5% profit each.

Payout Fee
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Bank transfer: USD 19.90 + 2.49%. Crypto: USD 19.90 + 30%; reduced to USD 19.90 + 2.49% when more than 50% of the trader's purchases were paid in crypto.

Account Reset
Limited

Fundamental and Premium allow unlimited evaluation resets. A failed subscription also resets with the next 30-day renewal. Express to Live does not allow resets. Premium CASH permits one funded-account reset.

Limited

Resets are available when offered by Upcomers. A rule-violation reset permanently limits future payouts on that account to 50%.

Add-ons
Yes

Market-depth data and additional exchanges can be purchased from the member area.

No
Instant
No
Yes

Vanguard offers instant funding with no evaluation.

One Step
Yes
Yes

Thunderbolt Classic is a one-step evaluation with a 6% target.

Account scaling
Limited

LIVE accounts may advance to ELITE after 60 days and a $125,000 balance, or MASTER after 120 days and $250,000. Transition remains subject to risk review.

Yes

+35% every 4 months, up to USD 4,000,000, with 15% cumulative growth, at least 2 payouts and a positive final cycle.

Max Drawdown

Express to Live uses a static drawdown that never moves. Fundamental and Premium use trailing drawdown calculated at the end of the day; the limit remains fixed during the session.

Real-time trailing: 4% on Classic and 3% on Vanguard. It locks at the initial balance after the account grows by that same percentage.

Profit Split

Express to Live and Fundamental: 80%. Premium: 75% on the first payout, 80% on the second, 85% on the third, 90% on the fourth, and 100% from the fifth onward.

90% selected for these prices. Checkout also allows 80% or 100%, adjusting the price.

Free Trial
No
Limited

Thunderbolt Classic includes an optional Trial Phase; Vanguard has no evaluation.

Daily Drawdown

There is no daily loss limit on Express to Live, Fundamental, or Premium.

Classic: 3% in evaluation and 2% when funded. Vanguard: 2%. Resets at 5:00 PM ET.

Max Allocation
600,000
1,500,000
Mandatory buffer
No

A minimum threshold applies when requesting a payout, but withdrawals may reduce the balance to $50,100, $100,100, or $150,100. Phidias does not treat this as a locked buffer.

No
Maximum Accounts

Unlimited evaluation accounts. A trader may operate a LIVE account while pursuing a new evaluation. Simultaneous maximum: 5 Fundamental CASH, 5 Premium CASH, and 5 Express to Live CASH/LIVE accounts. The 10K Drawdown Summer Edition allows unlimited simultaneous entries, with only the trader’s best account counting on the leaderboard. Fundamental and Premium 150K accounts count as two slots in their category.

No fixed account-count limit; total funded capital cannot exceed USD 1,500,000 across all Upcomers programs.

Minimum Trading Days

Evaluation: 0 days on Express to Live, 3 on Fundamental, and 1 on Premium. CASH: 0 days for the Express to Live bonus, 10 qualifying days between payouts on Fundamental, and 5 on Premium.

Classic can be passed in 1 day. Vanguard has no evaluation.

Points Reward Program

Phidias Wallet centralizes account subscriptions, bank or cryptocurrency withdrawals, purchases, activations, and LIVE-account funding directly from earnings. Phidias Points are an internal unit that cannot be transferred outside the ecosystem.

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Minimum Profitable Days

On Fundamental and Premium CASH accounts, a qualifying day must close with at least $150 on 50K, $200 on 100K, or $250 on 150K.

Vanguard requires 5 days with at least 0.5% profit each before the first payout; they do not need to be consecutive.

Position size scaling
Limited

On LIVE accounts, traders may request a contract-limit increase in writing. The risk team may approve, reject, or adjust the limit.

No

The contract limit depends on account size and does not drop after funding.

Maximum Trading Days
No data

No time limit to pass Classic; all futures accounts close after 14 calendar days without closing a trade.

Funded Phase Pricing Model
No data

No activation fee or recurring platform/data subscription stated by Upcomers.

Evaluation Phase Pricing Model
No data

One-time payment based on program, size and profit split. The table shows the regular 90% price before any promotional code.

Expert Advisor (EA)
No

Robots, fully automated algorithms, and HFT are prohibited. Semi-automated software is allowed when the trader actively monitors and manually adjusts every trade.

Limited

Bots and automation are allowed when the strategy is unique and responsible; no HFT, tick scalping, arbitrage, feed abuse or mass-shared strategies.

VPN
No
Limited

Upcomers' general VPN/VPS and identity-verification rules apply.

Hedging
No

Hedging is prohibited on the same underlying within one account (including ES vs MES), between CASH accounts, and through coordinated opposite trades between traders; violations can close all involved accounts and lead to a ban. Multiple assets may be traded simultaneously, but the contract cap applies across all symbols; bypassing it can close the account without refund.

Limited

Allowed within the same account; coordinating opposite positions across accounts or people to bypass rules is prohibited.

Requires Stop Loss
No
No
Scalping
Yes
Limited

Normal scalping is allowed; tick scalping and latency exploitation are prohibited.

Stacking / Layering (DCA)
Yes

DCA is allowed to smooth entry points, provided consistent risk management is maintained.

Yes
Martingale
No
No
Maximum Risk Limit
Limited

Phidias requires consistent position sizing and risk management. Lottery-style trading, excessive margin usage, or non-replicable patterns may lead to reduced contracts or account closure.

Yes

Hard maximum loss of 1.5% of account size per open trade. Positions in the same instrument and direction count as one trade.

Copy Trading
Yes

Allowed within the maximum account limits. Identical strategies exceeding the authorized allocation may result in account suspension.

Limited

Allowed between your own accounts; prohibited between different people.

News Trading
Yes
Yes
Consistency Rule
Limited

There is no consistency rule during evaluation or on Express to Live. On Fundamental and Premium CASH accounts, no single day may represent more than 30% of total profit. It is calculated over at least 4 days.

Yes

20% Best Day Rule: the best day cannot represent more than 20% of total profit when requesting a payout.

Hold Weekend
Limited

Allowed only on Premium. Fundamental and Express to Live must close before the end of the session.

Yes
Prohibited Strategies

Robots and fully automated trading; HFT; lottery-style or full-margin trades during high-volatility news; old or illiquid contracts; spreads between expirations; one-tick Treasury-bond arbitrage; exploitation of technical or market errors.

HFT, tick scalping, arbitrage or latency abuse, feed/price abuse, mass-shared strategies, martingale, account rolling and any practice designed to exploit the simulated environment.

Overnight positions
Limited

Allowed only on Premium. Fundamental and Express to Live must close before the end of the session.

Yes
Inactivity Rule
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Yes

Automatic closure after 14 calendar days without closing a trade; the clock starts at purchase and resets with every closed trade.

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