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Paris
Suite 4.3.02, Block 4, Eurotowers, Gibraltar, GX11 1AA
Léon Grimm
France
Gibraltar
2023
2023
Merit Live: Phoenix covers the processor fee on withdrawals above $500.
Live Funded account at EdgeClear on Rithmic. Classic and Spark: after 4 payouts. Daily: once $1,200/$3,000/$6,000 has been paid (Seed/Starter/Growth). Merit: straight to Live on approval. Risk review required; if not passed, the pre-funded payout limit may be extended instead. Live amount: Classic $1,250/$2,000/$3,500; Spark $400/$1,000; Daily $500/$1,250/$2,000; Merit $2,000. Static drawdown, daily limit agreed with the trader, and every rule waived except overnight and over-week positions. Other funded accounts go dormant on transfer.
Express to Live converts the CASH account to LIVE after reaching its CASH target and requesting the first payout through “Switch to Live”. Phidias states that the full path from signup to first payout and LIVE conversion can be completed in 48 hours on every E2L size. Fundamental and Premium may transition to LIVE after 5 payouts or $100,000 in cumulative profits, subject to the risk team’s discretion.
Classic: weekly, first payout after 5 trading days and then every 5. Spark: bi-weekly, first payout after 5 trading days. Daily: any trading day once profit matures (3 trading days; 5 for a day above 30% of total profit and above the tier's daily cap). Merit Live: any time, up to 10 per day. Processing: 2 to 3 business days.
Fundamental: every 10 qualifying trading days. Premium: every 5 qualifying days. LIVE from Express to Live: daily.
Per payout: Classic $600/$1,000/$2,000 (Starter/Growth/Scale); Spark $300/$400 (Seed/Starter). Daily: $200/$500/$1,000 per trading day (Seed/Starter/Growth), with $1,000 per day per trader across all Daily accounts. Merit Live: no maximum. PayPal: $2,000 per month.
Fundamental and Premium: up to $2,000 per cycle on 50K, $2,500 on 100K, and $2,750 on 150K. LIVE accounts originating from Express to Live have no maximum daily limit.
Classic and Daily: $75. Spark: $30 (Seed) or $75 (Starter). Merit Live: $1.
$500.
After passing: review of up to 72 hours, then KYC and Pre-Funded contract within 48 hours. The trailing drawdown locks at the starting balance on the first payout. Every denied payout comes with a written reason from the risk team. No crypto payouts.
Fundamental and Premium apply a 30% consistency rule on CASH accounts. A qualifying day must generate at least $150 on 50K, $200 on 100K, or $250 on 150K. Express to Live uses a separate bonus and automatic LIVE conversion system.
Phidias states that 90% of payouts are processed in under 30 minutes and all payouts within 24 hours.
Per contract and side on TFeed; dxFeed is double. ES, NQ, RTY and YM $1.09; MES, MNQ, M2K and MYM $0.35; CL $1.15; MCL $0.43; GC $1.20; MGC $0.43; NG $1.20; 6E $1.20; ZN $0.80; ZB $0.83; BTC $3.38; MBT $1.38. Same rates on every line, in evaluation and funded.
Classic, Daily and Spark: unlimited, by paying the fee or with reset coupons (one per month the challenge stays alive; they stack and never expire). Classic: a failed account is reset free at renewal. Merit: no reset.
Fundamental and Premium allow unlimited evaluation resets. A failed subscription also resets with the next 30-day renewal. Express to Live does not allow resets. Premium CASH permits one funded-account reset.
Performance Review (+20% on the price): 20 to 30 page report on the trader's own trades. Free ATAS licence with dxFeed.
Market-depth data and additional exchanges can be purchased from the member area.
Scaling beyond the Classic plan on request, after a full review of the trades.
LIVE accounts may advance to ELITE after 60 days and a $125,000 balance, or MASTER after 120 days and $250,000. Transition remains subject to risk review.
Classic and Daily: end-of-day trailing in evaluation and funded. Spark: end-of-day trailing in evaluation and real-time trailing once funded. The trailing drawdown locks at the starting balance. Merit: static, the whole $2,000 balance. Live: static.
Express to Live uses a static drawdown that never moves. Fundamental and Premium use trailing drawdown calculated at the end of the day; the limit remains fixed during the session.
Classic and Spark: 90%. Daily: 80%. Merit: 50% until the trader has withdrawn twice the starting balance, then 80%.
Express to Live and Fundamental: 80%. Premium: 75% on the first payout, 80% on the second, 85% on the third, 90% on the fourth, and 100% from the fifth onward.
Classic, Daily and Spark: none. Merit: 25% dynamic (soft breach). Live: agreed with each trader based on their results.
There is no daily loss limit on Express to Live, Fundamental, or Premium.
Classic and Daily: a locked buffer equal to the maximum drawdown stays in the account and is not withdrawable. Spark and Merit: none.
A minimum threshold applies when requesting a payout, but withdrawals may reduce the balance to $50,100, $100,100, or $150,100. Phidias does not treat this as a locked buffer.
Unlimited challenges. Pre-funded: 5 on TFeed (up to 3 Spark, 3 Daily, 3 Classic Growth or Scale and 5 Classic Starter) and 3 on dxFeed. Live: up to 5, at Phoenix's discretion. Merit: one attempt; another requires buying a Classic or Daily account first.
Unlimited evaluation accounts. A trader may operate a LIVE account while pursuing a new evaluation. Simultaneous maximum: 5 Fundamental CASH, 5 Premium CASH, and 5 Express to Live CASH/LIVE accounts. The 10K Drawdown Summer Edition allows unlimited simultaneous entries, with only the trader’s best account counting on the leaderboard. Fundamental and Premium 150K accounts count as two slots in their category.
No deadline. Spark closes after 90 days without a trade. Merit: 30 calendar days.
Classic and Daily: 2. Spark: 1. Merit: none; the challenge lasts 30 calendar days.
Evaluation: 0 days on Express to Live, 3 on Fundamental, and 1 on Premium. CASH: 0 days for the Express to Live bonus, 10 qualifying days between payouts on Fundamental, and 5 on Premium.
No monthly fee on funded accounts. Activation: $29 one-time on Spark; $0 on Classic, Daily and Merit. Live: CME professional data at $135/month per exchange, deducted from the account.
Phoenix Extra: PHX earned for ideas and ambassador work, usable on accounts, resets and activation fees. Not convertible to cash.
Phidias Wallet centralizes account subscriptions, bank or cryptocurrency withdrawals, purchases, activations, and LIVE-account funding directly from earnings. Phidias Points are an internal unit that cannot be transferred outside the ecosystem.
Classic: 5 days between payouts with at least $100/$200/$300 profit (Starter/Growth/Scale). Spark: 5 days with at least $40 (Seed) or $100 (Starter). Daily and Merit: none.
On Fundamental and Premium CASH accounts, a qualifying day must close with at least $150 on 50K, $200 on 100K, or $250 on 150K.
Classic: the contract limit rises with profit at $1,000, $2,000 and $4,000 up to the account maximum, in evaluation and funded, and drops if profit falls back. Spark, Daily and Merit: full size from day one. Live: one extra mini per $2,000 of profit.
On LIVE accounts, traders may request a contract-limit increase in writing. The risk team may approve, reject, or adjust the limit.
Classic: monthly subscription every 30 days, cancelled automatically on passing; dxFeed adds $20/month. Daily, Spark and Merit: one-time payment. No refunds.
HFT and bots that trade without the trader are prohibited. Tools that assist the trader (hotkeys, DOM, alerts) are allowed.
Robots, fully automated algorithms, and HFT are prohibited. Semi-automated software is allowed when the trader actively monitors and manually adjusts every trade.
VPN, VPS and proxy allowed; sessions are monitored and identity documents may be requested.
Opposite positions on the same asset across accounts, own or someone else's.
Hedging is prohibited on the same underlying within one account (including ES vs MES), between CASH accounts, and through coordinated opposite trades between traders; violations can close all involved accounts and lead to a ban. Multiple assets may be traded simultaneously, but the contract cap applies across all symbols; bypassing it can close the account without refund.
No minimum trade duration.
Rotating through accounts, each risked in full on the same bet until one hits, is prohibited. Holding several accounts is allowed.
DCA is allowed to smooth entry points, provided consistent risk management is maintained.
Allowed within a single account, also DCA. Prohibited across accounts.
Same direction across the trader's own accounts. Thor is included with TFeed.
Allowed within the maximum account limits. Identical strategies exceeding the authorized allocation may result in account suspension.
Including Tier 1 releases, at every stage.
Pre-funded: one trade every 7 calendar days, otherwise the account closes without a payout. Live: 30 days, not applied mechanically. Challenges: none, except Spark (90 days).
Classic and Daily evaluations: best day up to 50% of total profit; exceeding it only delays passing. Spark funded: 30%. No rule on Classic and Daily funded, Spark evaluation or Merit.
There is no consistency rule during evaluation or on Express to Live. On Fundamental and Premium CASH accounts, no single day may represent more than 30% of total profit. It is calculated over at least 4 days.
Allowed only on Premium. Fundamental and Express to Live must close before the end of the session.
Hedging between accounts, account rolling, martingale or loss recovery across accounts (also at other firms) and HFT or bots. On funded accounts: flipping and one-tick trading on bonds. Stop trading a contract within 2% of its CME daily price limit.
Robots and fully automated trading; HFT; lottery-style or full-margin trades during high-volatility news; old or illiquid contracts; spreads between expirations; one-tick Treasury-bond arbitrage; exploitation of technical or market errors.
Positions must be closed before the session ends, at every stage including Live. Breach: funded account denied, or payout denied and account closed.
Allowed only on Premium. Fundamental and Express to Live must close before the end of the session.
Phidias requires consistent position sizing and risk management. Lottery-style trading, excessive margin usage, or non-replicable patterns may lead to reduced contracts or account closure.

















