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Which is better for your first challenge: Boxcar Trading or The5ers Futures?

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What you are signing up for

A prop firm evaluation is a skill test where you trade with virtual capital to prove you can be profitable while following strict risk rules. You pay an entry fee to access this test.

  • Boxcar Trading offers a 25K account (a virtual balance of $25,000) starting at $50.
  • The5ers Futures offers a similar 25K account for $59.

In both firms, you must reach a "profit target," which is a specific amount of money you need to earn to pass the test. For a 25K account, this target is $1,250 at Boxcar and 6% ($1,500) at The5ers. Neither firm offers a free trial, but their entry prices are among the lowest in the industry for futures trading.

How hard each one is

The difficulty is defined by the "drawdown," which is the maximum amount you are allowed to lose before your account is closed. Both firms use a "Trailing EOD" (End of Day) drawdown. This means the "floor" of your account moves up only at the end of the trading day if your balance increased, but it never moves back down.

  • At Boxcar, the 25K account gives you a $1,000 loss limit.
  • At The5ers, the loss limit is 4% of your balance ($1,000 for the 25K plan).

Boxcar also offers an optional "Daily Loss Limit" (DLL). This is a safety switch that freezes your account for the day if you lose a certain amount, preventing you from blowing the entire account in a single bad session. The5ers does not have a daily limit, meaning one bad afternoon could end your challenge.

How long it takes

Both firms use a "one-step" process, meaning you only need to pass one evaluation phase to become a funded trader.

  • Boxcar allows you to pass in as little as 1 day on their Prime plan.
  • The5ers also allows a 1-day pass, provided you respect their consistency rules.

Neither firm has a maximum time limit to finish the evaluation. You can take months if you need to, as long as you place at least one trade every 30 days at Boxcar or every 14 days at The5ers to keep the account active.

Where beginners fail

Most beginners fail because of the "consistency rule." This rule prevents you from passing by having one "lucky" trade that makes all your profit. It forces you to be a steady trader.

  • Boxcar requires that no single day accounts for more than 40% to 52% of your total profit, depending on the plan.
  • The5ers applies a 40% consistency rule per position, meaning one single trade cannot represent more than 40% of your total gains.

Another trap is "overnight" trading. Both firms require you to close your positions before the market closes for the day. If you leave a trade open while the market is shut, you will fail the account.

What happens if you make it

Once you pass, you become a "funded" trader and can start requesting "payouts" (withdrawals of your earned profits).

  • Boxcar gives you 90% of the profits. You can request payouts daily once you meet certain cycle requirements. The minimum withdrawal is $500.
  • The5ers gives you 80% of the profits. You can request your first payout after 14 days, provided you have gained at least 4% in profit.

Regarding technology, Boxcar is more flexible. It allows you to use popular platforms like NinjaTrader or Quantower. The5ers is more restrictive for beginners, as it only allows the BlackArrow platform.

If it is your first time

If this is your very first attempt, Boxcar Trading is the better choice.

The entry price is slightly lower ($50 vs $59), but the real advantage is the software. Boxcar allows you to use NinjaTrader, which has thousands of free tutorials online. Furthermore, Boxcar allows the use of "EAs" (automated trading robots), whereas The5ers strictly prohibits them. The optional Daily Loss Limit at Boxcar acts as a crucial safety net for a beginner who hasn't yet mastered their emotions.

Frequently asked questions

Which firm is cheaper to start a 50K challenge, Boxcar Trading or The5ers Futures?

Boxcar Trading is cheaper for a 50K evaluation. Their "BoxcarFlex" plan with a daily loss limit costs $90, while the "Day Trade" 50K plan at The5ers Futures costs $100. Neither firm charges an activation fee after you pass the test, which saves you money compared to other competitors.

Can I use automated trading robots (EAs) in Boxcar Trading or The5ers Futures?

You can use EAs in Boxcar Trading, as they allow own automated strategies on all evaluation and simulated-funded accounts. However, The5ers Futures strictly prohibits algorithmic and high-frequency trading. If you plan to use software to execute your trades, Boxcar is your only option between the two.

Which firm offers more trading platforms, Boxcar Trading or The5ers Futures?

Boxcar Trading offers a much wider variety of platforms, including NinjaTrader, RTrader Pro, Quantower, and Sierra Chart. In contrast, The5ers Futures is limited exclusively to the BlackArrow platform. For a beginner, Boxcar provides more freedom to choose the interface that feels most comfortable.

What is the minimum profit needed to withdraw money from Boxcar Trading vs The5ers Futures?

At Boxcar Trading, the minimum gross withdrawal is $500 per request. At The5ers Futures, you cannot request a payout until you have reached at least 4% profit over the initial balance (for example, $1,000 on a 25K account). While Boxcar has a fixed dollar minimum, The5ers requires a specific percentage of growth before you can touch your earnings.

Field by field

Boxcar Trading and The5ers Futures, side by side

Rules, plans, platforms, leverage, commissions and payouts of both, with the option to see only what differs.

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Brokers
Rithmic
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Payout Fee

No Boxcar payout fee.

3.5% for Rise, cryptocurrencies and bank transfers. No fee when the payout is converted into Hub Credits.

Platforms
RTrader Pro, NinjaTrader, MotiveWave, Quantower, Sierra Chart, Jigsaw, Bookmap, ATAS, MultiCharts
BlackArrow
Payout Methods
Transfer, Crypto
Rise, Crypto, Transfer
Live Account
Yes

Evaluation and initial funding are simulated. Prime, Flex and Funded reach live review after 5 approved payouts. Payout triggers review at USD 6,000 / 8,000 / 10,000 / 12,000 daily profit for 25K / 50K / 100K / 150K; the risk team may also initiate review. Approval, KYC and a separate agreement are required. One live account per eligible funded account with at least one payout.
Live starts at USD 0 with size-based EOD drawdown of USD 1,000 / 2,000 / 3,000 / 4,500, no DLL and exchange-specific position scaling. The floor locks at USD 100 upon earning profit equal to the starting drawdown or requesting an earlier payout. Daily requests when eligible.
Moving live closes all household simulated accounts; accounts without payouts are refunded. Prime, Flex and Funded forfeit remaining simulated profit, apart from an eligible final payout. Payout may settle profit above the buffer, capped at USD 15,000 combined with the usual split, after broker verification; the prior close is used and the transition session is excluded. Standard cooldown after a live breach: 2 weeks.

No

The5ers states that all activity is conducted in a simulated trading environment.

Payment Methods
Card
Card, PayPal, Crypto
Payout Frequency

Payout: daily requests when eligible. Prime: from 3 days; Flex and Funded: from 5 days per cycle. Plaid: instant delivery to US banks; WorkMarket by ADP: 2 days for international banks. Prior review and approval required.

First payout after 14 days; subsequent payouts every 14 days after the last approved withdrawal.

Maximum Withdrawal

Gross amounts, in 25K / 50K / 100K / 150K order:

  • Prime: first payout USD 1,000 / 2,000 / 2,500 / 3,000; later payouts USD 1,500 / 2,500 / 3,000 / 3,500.
  • Flex: up to 50% of cycle profit, capped at USD 1,000 / 2,000 / 2,500 / 3,000.
  • Payout: available profit above the buffer, with no additional per-request cap.
  • Funded: payouts 1-3, USD 1,000 / 2,000 / 2,500 / 3,000; payouts 4-5, USD 1,000 / 2,500 / 3,000 / 3,500.

25K: $1,250. 50K: payouts 1–4 are capped at $1,500 / $2,000 / $2,500 / $3,000; later payouts remain capped at $3,000. 100K and 150K: 3% of the current balance.

Minimum Withdrawal

USD 500 gross per request, before the split.

A payout can be requested after reaching at least 4% profit over the initial account balance.

Other Payout Requirements

Cycle profit goals, in 25K / 50K / 100K / 150K order:

  • Prime: USD 250 / 500 / 750 / 1,000.
  • Funded: first cycle USD 1,500 / 3,000 / 6,000 / 9,000; later cycles USD 1,250 / 2,500 / 3,500 / 4,500.
    Flex and Payout need a net-positive cycle. Each approval starts a new cycle. Minimum age: 18. Identity verification is required; businesses receive payment in their own name and provide formation, ownership and IDs for owners holding at least 25%. One permanent personal or business profile per trader, with no conversion or replacement. Requests are final and submitted through support.

The funded account must be at least 14 days old and have reached at least 4% profit. The 14-day cycle restarts after scaling.

Payout Guarantee
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Approved withdrawals are normally processed within 3 business days.

Commission

USD per contract per side; round trip = twice the rate:

  • ES, NQ, RTY, NKD, YM: 1.75.
  • 6A, 6B, 6C, 6E, 6J, 6S, 6N: 2.40.
  • CL, QM, NG: 2.00; QG: 1.30.
  • PL, GC, SI, HG: 2.30.
  • HE, LE, ZS, ZC, ZL, ZM, ZW: 2.80.
  • MES, MNQ, M2K, MYM, MCL: 0.50; MGC: 0.80; SIL: 1.60.
    CME, CBOT, NYMEX and COMEX contracts. QM, QG and NKD count as minis. MNG and MHG are unavailable. Live costs follow onboarding terms.

Standard futures: $5 per side. Micro futures: $2.50 per side.

Account Reset

Active or failed evaluations and purchased direct-funded BoxcarFunded accounts can be reset. A reset replaces the account with the same plan and retains its history. Cost is the lower of the original amount paid for that account and its current reset price. Free accounts pay the current reset price. Funding earned by passing an evaluation needs a new evaluation after a breach; live accounts cannot be reset.

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Add-ons
Yes

Level II: USD 13/month for CME only or USD 39/month for all four exchanges. Rithmic server-side copier: USD 15/month across all accounts on the login. An optional second login is also offered in the portal, with no confirmed public price.

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Instant
Yes

BoxcarFunded starts directly in simulated funding.

No
One Step
Yes

Prime, Flex and Payout have one evaluation.

Yes
Max Drawdown

EOD trailing on Prime, Flex and Funded. Payout offers EOD or intraday in evaluation; funded is always intraday, including open profit. The floor never falls and stops at starting balance + USD 100, reached at starting balance + MLL + USD 100. A Flex payout request also locks the floor. Touching the floor, including through open losses, breaches the account.

4% EOD trailing drawdown, calculated from the highest midnight balance or equity. After a payout, it resets to 4% below the new balance.

Daily Drawdown

Prime, Flex and Payout offer a DLL at purchase; the choice carries to both stages and cannot change. Hitting it closes positions and locks trading until the next session, without itself breaching the MLL. On funded Prime and Funded, the DLL becomes 60% of peak EOD profit after closing above the initial trail balance, and can only grow. Flex and Payout keep a fixed DLL; Funded 25K never acquires one.

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Max Allocation
750,000
500,000
Mandatory buffer
Limited

Prime and Payout must retain starting balance + MLL + USD 100 after a payout. Flex has no additional buffer but must respect its loss floor. Funded applies cycle goals and caps as well as loss-floor protection.

No
Maximum Accounts

Unlimited evaluations and up to 5 active funded accounts across plans. Additional direct-funded purchases remain in reserve. No household simulated trading while a member trades live.

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Maximum Trading Days

No fixed deadline to pass. Inactivity rules still apply.

No time limit. At least one trade must be placed every 14 days.

Minimum Trading Days

Prime evaluation: a 1-day pass is possible. Flex and Payout have no separate fixed minimum beyond consistency. Payouts: Prime from 3 days; Funded requires 5 trading days per cycle; Payout allows daily requests when other conditions are met.

The evaluation can be passed in one trading day while respecting the consistency rule.

Funded Phase Pricing Model

No activation charge after passing and no account subscription.

No monthly fee. The current program catalogue shows no activation fee.

Minimum Profitable Days

Funded Flex: 5 separate days per cycle, each with at least USD 100 / 150 / 200 / 250 net profit for 25K / 50K / 100K / 150K. Day counts restart after payout approval.

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Position size scaling
Limited

Only Flex sim-funded scales contracts with accumulated closing profit; losses or payouts can lower its tier. Prime, Payout and Funded retain full limits. Live scaling is confirmed per exchange.

Yes

Every approved 10% profit milestone adds 1 mini and 10 micro contracts.

Evaluation Phase Pricing Model

One-time purchase with no automatic renewal. Platform and Level I data included. Breaches, lack of use or a change of mind do not normally qualify for refunds; duplicate or incorrect charges, missing access and statutory rights are reviewed. An unused purchase may receive discretionary review before any order or trade.

One-time evaluation fee with no monthly subscription.

Account scaling
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Yes

At every approved 10% profit milestone, buying power increases by 5%, up to $500,000.

Profit Split
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80% for the trader across all funded accounts.

Expert Advisor (EA)
Yes

Own automated strategies are allowed on evaluations and simulated-funded accounts, subject to all account rules. Software errors and HFT restrictions still apply.

No

Algorithmic and high-frequency trading are prohibited.

Hedging
Limited

Opposing different products or mini/micro pairs are allowed within one evaluation or sim-funded account. Long and short in the same exact contract, or opposing same/correlated products across accounts, including other traders or firms, are prohibited. Same-account exceptions do not carry over to live. A first violation may return balances to the prior close; repeated violations may breach accounts and end access.

No
Scalping
Limited

Realistic scalping is allowed. More than 50% of profit from trades lasting 5 seconds or less may trigger review. A flag is not automatic failure; confirmed or repeated exploitation may lead to profit removal and loss of access.

Yes
Stacking / Layering (DCA)
Yes

DCA and scaling into positions within contract and loss limits.

Yes
Martingale
Yes

Permitted within account limits, although Boxcar strongly discourages it.

Yes
Copy Trading
Limited

Across your own Boxcar accounts, using built-in or third-party copiers. Each account keeps its own limits. Credential sharing and trading for others are prohibited.

Limited

Only between the trader's own 25K and 50K accounts, with a combined maximum allocation of $75,000.

News Trading
Limited

Allowed on Prime, Flex, Funded and Payout evaluation. Funded Payout must be flat from 1 minute before through 1 minute after high-impact USD news on the Forex Factory calendar; violations breach the account. Cancel pending entries and pause automation. Live has separate terms.

Yes
Inactivity Rule

At least one closed trade with USD 1 net profit or loss in every 30-calendar-day period. Otherwise the account may be permanently removed. Breached evaluations may be removed after 30 days without a reset.

Yes

At least one trade must be placed every 14 days.

Consistency Rule
Limited

Prime: none in evaluation, 40% per funded cycle. Flex and Payout: nominal 50% in evaluation plus a 2-point cushion, an effective 52% ceiling; no funded consistency. Funded: 20% per cycle. Best net day divided by total net profit; fees and losing days count. Missing consistency delays passing or payouts without itself breaching drawdown.

Yes

40% per-position consistency rule during evaluation and funded stages. It is calculated using accumulated profitable trades; losing trades are not deducted.

Hold Weekend
No

Evaluation and sim-funded positions must close before weekends and exchange early closes.

No
Prohibited Strategies

Exploitative HFT, latency or delayed prices, unrealistic simulated fills, technical defects, spoofing, layering, prohibited coordination or hedging, and trading for others. Brief flipping to count trading days is allowed but does not replace minimum-profit days or payout goals.

High-frequency trading, algorithmic trading and hedging.

Overnight positions
No

Trading during the overnight session is allowed, but positions cannot cross the daily close: flatten by 16:45 ET and re-enter from 18:00 ET in the next open session. Scheduled automatic flattening is not a breach. Live follows its own schedule.

Limited

Day Trade does not allow overnight positions. Swing allows limited overnight exposure: 1 mini/10 micros on 25K and 50K, 2/20 on 100K and 3/30 on 150K.

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No
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