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Getting paid at Bulenox and E8 Market Futures

The main difference between these two firms lies in their flexibility: while Bulenox allows for high-frequency scalping and automated trading with a very aggressive profit split, E8 Market Futures offers a much more accessible path to withdrawals with a $100 minimum, albeit under stricter manual trading rules and a finite account lifecycle.

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The split

Bulenox offers one of the most competitive structures in the futures industry. Traders keep 100% of the first $10,000 in cumulative profits. After that threshold, the split remains high at 90% for the trader and 10% for the firm.

E8 Market Futures operates differently depending on the plan. The Signature Futures accounts offer a fixed 80% split. On the other hand, the Zero (Starter and Max) accounts begin at 80% but allow the trader to select a 100% profit share at checkout for an additional cost. Unlike Bulenox, E8 accounts have a lifespan of 5 payouts; once the fifth payout is processed, the account is closed and a new free challenge is issued.

How often you can withdraw

At Bulenox, the speed depends on your chosen product. Legacy Master accounts process requests once a week on Wednesdays. However, Momentum Master and Fast Track accounts offer daily processing if requested before 12:01 PM CT.

E8 Market Futures also prioritizes speed. Zero Starter and Zero Max accounts allow for daily withdrawals. Signature Futures accounts offer on-demand payouts as soon as the requirements are met.

Minimums and methods

The barrier to the first dollar is significantly lower at E8 Market Futures, which requires a minimum of only $100 for any withdrawal. They pay via Bank Transfer, Crypto, and Rise.

Bulenox has a higher bar for entry. Most accounts (Legacy and Fast Track) require a minimum of $1,000 to request a payout. The Momentum 25K account is the exception, allowing withdrawals starting at $500. Their payment methods include Bank Transfer, PayPal, and Wise.

What delays a payout

Several rules can push back your first payday:

  • Mandatory Buffers: Both firms require you to leave a "safety cushion" in the account. Bulenox requires a buffer ranging from $1,600 (25K account) to $4,600 (150K account). E8 Signature requires a buffer equal to your End-of-Day (EOD) Dynamic Drawdown.
  • Consistency Rules: Bulenox applies a best-day rule where no single day can account for more than 40% (Legacy), 35% (Momentum), or 20-30% (Fast Track) of your total profit. E8 Signature Performance accounts require that no single day exceeds 35% of the total profit.
  • Minimum Trading Days: Bulenox Legacy requires 10 trading days before the first payout. E8 Signature requires 5 profitable days (at least 0.3% profit each) between payouts after the first one.
  • Risk Rules: E8 enforces a "10-second rule," where 50% of your profits must come from trades held longer than 10 seconds. Failing this will disqualify profits.

What it takes to get there

To reach the payout stage, you must first clear the evaluation or purchase an instant account:

  • Investment: A 50K EOD account at Bulenox costs approximately $175 (plus a $148 activation fee), while an E8 Signature 50K account costs $150 with no activation fee. Bulenox also offers "Fast Track" instant accounts (50K for $488) to skip the evaluation.
  • The Challenge: Both firms use 1-step evaluations. Bulenox profit targets are generally $3,000 for a 50K account. E8 targets are similar ($3,000 for Signature 50K).
  • Drawdown: Bulenox offers both Trailing and EOD drawdown options. E8 uses an EOD Dynamic Drawdown that locks at the initial balance, providing more intraday breathing room.
  • Platforms and Style: Bulenox is a haven for automated traders, allowing EAs, copy trading, and news trading across platforms like NinjaTrader, RTrader, and ATAS. E8 is strictly for manual traders using Tradovate; bots and HFT are prohibited.

Which pays out more comfortably

E8 Market Futures pays out more comfortably for the conservative, manual trader who wants to see money in their bank account quickly. The $100 minimum withdrawal and daily frequency mean you don't have to wait to reach a large "buffer" before seeing results.

Bulenox is the better choice for high-volume scalpers or those using automated systems. While the $1,000 minimum is higher, the 100% initial split and the ability to use EAs and copy traders make it more lucrative for those with a proven, scalable strategy who don't mind waiting for a larger first check.

Frequently asked questions

Between Bulenox and E8 Market Futures, which one offers a cheaper 50K account?

Comparing the base price, E8 Market Futures is cheaper with its 50K Signature account at $150 and no activation fee. Bulenox charges $175 for its 50K EOD evaluation, and once passed, the trader must pay an additional $148 activation fee for the Master account.

Which firm has a lower minimum withdrawal, Bulenox or E8 Market Futures?

E8 Market Futures has a significantly lower minimum withdrawal of $100 across all accounts. In contrast, Bulenox requires a minimum of $1,000 for most accounts, with the only exception being the Momentum 25K account, which allows withdrawals starting at $500.

Can I use Trading Robots (EAs) on both Bulenox and E8 Market Futures?

No. Bulenox fully allows the use of EAs, automated tools, and copy trading. E8 Market Futures, however, strictly prohibits semi-automated or fully automated trading, including bots and AI tools, and limits traders to manual execution.

What is the difference in drawdown calculation between Bulenox and E8 Market Futures?

Bulenox offers two options: a real-time Trailing Drawdown (which moves up with your peak equity) or an End-of-Day Drawdown. E8 Market Futures uses an EOD Dynamic Drawdown that only updates based on the balance at the close of the day and stops moving once it reaches the initial account balance.

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Assets
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Futures
Brokers
Rithmic, Project X
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Payout Fee
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E8 charges no payout fee. WorkMarket or Rise may charge a processing fee depending on the selected withdrawal method.

Platforms
RTrader, NinjaTrader, Project X, ATAS, Quantower, Bookmap, Sierra Chart
Tradovate
Payout Methods
Transfer, PayPal, Wise
Transfer, Crypto, Rise
Live Account
No data
No

Challenge and SimFi Performance accounts are simulated. Futures market data is sourced from CME.

Payment Methods
Card, PayPal, Crypto
Card, Crypto
Payout Frequency
  • Legacy Master: requests can be submitted at any time and are processed weekly on Wednesday.
  • Momentum Master and Fast Track: eligible requests submitted before 12:01 PM CT, Monday–Friday, are processed the same day.
  • Signature Futures: on demand once all payout requirements are met.
  • Zero Starter and Zero Max: daily, minimum $100.
Maximum Withdrawal

Legacy Master — first three payouts:

Account Maximum
25K $1,000
50K $1,500
100K $1,750
150K $2,000
250K grandfathered accounts $2,500

Momentum Master:

Account 1st 2nd 3rd 4th+
25K $1,000 $1,000 $1,000 $1,000
50K $1,500 $2,000 $2,500 $3,000
100K $2,000 $2,500 $3,000 $4,000
150K $2,500 $3,000 $4,000 $5,000

Fast Track:

Account 1st–3rd 4th+
25K $1,000 $1,250
50K $2,000 $2,500
100K $2,500 $3,000
150K $3,000 $3,500

E8 Signature Futures

Payout $25K $50K $100K $150K
1st–2nd $1,000 $1,250 $2,250 $3,250
3rd–4th $1,250 $2,250 $3,250 $4,250
5th $1,500 $3,250 $4,250 $5,250

E8 Zero Starter

  • $50K: $1,000
  • $100K: $1,600
  • $200K: $2,100

E8 Zero Max

  • $50K: $3,000
  • $100K: $5,000
  • $200K: $7,000

Signature Futures and Zero allow a maximum of 5 payouts per account; after the fifth, the account closes and a free Challenge of the same size is issued.

Minimum Withdrawal
  • Legacy Master: $1,000.
  • Momentum Master: $500 on 25K; $1,000 on 50K, 100K and 150K.
  • Fast Track: $1,000.

$100

Other Payout Requirements
  • Momentum Master: 5 qualifying profitable days per cycle. Minimum profit per qualifying day: $100 on 25K, $150 on 50K, $200 on 100K and $250 on 150K. Minimum balances: $26,500, $53,000, $104,500 and $156,500 respectively.
  • Fast Track: later payout goals after the first payout are $1,000 on 25K, $2,000 on 50K, $3,000 on 100K and $4,500 on 150K.

Payouts require successful onboarding and KYC with WorkMarket or Rise. If neither provider accepts the trader, E8 cannot process the payout.

Account Reset
  • Legacy Qualification: resets cost $78. Active recurring Legacy subscriptions keep the free reset available on their renewal date.
  • Momentum Qualification: reset available; price not announced. A reset does not extend the 30-calendar-day validity.
  • Fast Track: no reset option.

After an account fails, a 10% discount is available for 7 days to retry the same account size and settings.

Add-ons
No
Yes

Zero Starter and Zero Max allow the payout share to be increased from the 80% base configuration to 100% at checkout.

Instant
Yes
No
One Step
Yes
Yes
Account scaling
No data
No
Max Drawdown
  • Legacy No Scaling Account: real-time Trailing Drawdown.
  • Legacy EOD Account: End-of-Day Drawdown.
  • In Legacy Master accounts, both thresholds stop moving when they reach the initial balance +$100.
  • Momentum and Fast Track Option 1: Trailing Drawdown.
  • Momentum and Fast Track Option 2: EOD Drawdown.
  • The amount for each account appears in the challenge table.

EOD Dynamic Drawdown based on the highest end-of-day balance. Intraday equity does not move it. It locks permanently at the initial balance level.

Profit Split
  • First $10,000 in eligible cumulative profits per trader profile: 100% to the trader.
  • Thereafter: 90% to the trader and 10% to Bulenox.
  • The first-$10,000 threshold is shared across accounts and products.
  • Signature Futures: 80%.
  • Zero Starter/Max: 80% base; 100% can be selected at checkout.
Free Trial
Yes

The Rithmic 14-day free trial (equivalent to 10 trading days) is offered directly by Rithmic and is available only to traders who have not previously registered or used Rithmic services.

No
Daily Drawdown

Legacy:

Only EOD accounts have a Daily Loss Limit. If it is reached, trading is paused for the rest of the day without being treated as a rule breach. It stops applying when the maximum drawdown reaches the initial balance.

Account Size Daily Loss Limit
$10K $400
$25K $500
$50K $1,100
$100K $2,200
$150K $3,300
$250K grandfathered accounts $4,500

Momentum and Fast Track:

Option 1 has no Daily Loss Limit. Option 2 has a Daily Loss Limit where specified in the challenge table.

  • Signature Challenge: none.
  • Signature Performance: 2% Daily Pause (soft breach; trading resumes the next day).
  • Zero Challenge and Performance: none.
Max Allocation
  • Unlimited Qualification accounts.
  • Shared limit of 5 Master-level accounts across the Bulenox products.
  • Challenge stage: unlimited accounts.
  • Signature Futures: up to 5 active Performance accounts.
  • Zero Starter/Max: up to 3 active Performance accounts. Limits apply per household.
Mandatory buffer
Yes
Account Size Minimum Buffer
$25,000 $1,600
$50,000 $2,600
$100,000 $3,100
$150,000 $4,600
$250,000 $5,600
Limited

Signature requires leaving a non-withdrawable buffer equal to the EOD Dynamic Drawdown before payouts. On Zero, any profit left after a payout remains as buffer and cannot be requested in a later cycle.

Merge Accounts
Yes

Once the funded account is achieved, all active master accounts must be merged into a single funded account.

No
Maximum Trading Days
  • Legacy and Momentum Qualification: 30 calendar days from activation.
  • Fast Track: not applicable because there is no Qualification.

Unlimited, but the account closes after 7 days of inactivity.

Minimum Trading Days
  • Legacy Qualification: 1 trading day to pass. Legacy Master: 10 trading days before payout.
  • Momentum Qualification: 1 trading day to pass. Momentum Master: 5 qualifying profitable days per payout cycle.
  • Fast Track: no minimum trading days before payout.
  • Funded Account: 5 trading days per payout.
  • Signature Futures: can pass in 1 day.
  • Zero Starter/Max: earliest pass in 3 days because of the 40% Best Day rule.
Funded Phase Pricing Model
  • Legacy Master: one-time activation fee; amounts applicable from August 17 must be confirmed at checkout.
  • Momentum Master: no activation fee.
  • Fast Track Master: activation is included in the one-time Fast Track fee.

No activation fee or recurring subscription.

Minimum Profitable Days
  • Momentum Master: 5 qualifying profitable days per payout cycle.
  • Fast Track: no minimum profitable-day requirement.
  • Signature: 5 profitable days between payouts after the first payout; a profitable day requires at least 0.3% realized profit.
  • Zero Starter/Max: no minimum profitable days in Performance.
Position size scaling
Yes

Only EOD accounts have scaling.

 

$10K EOD Account Scaling

Profit Range Max Contracts
No Scaling 5 Micro-Contracts

 

$25K EOD Account Scaling

Profit Range Max Contracts
$0 – $1,500 2
$1,501 + 3

 

$50K EOD Account Scaling

Profit Range Max Contracts
$0 – $1,500 2
$1,501 – $4,000 4
$4,001 + 7

 

$100K EOD Account Scaling

Profit Range Max Contracts
$0 – $2,000 3
$2,001 – $3,000 5
$3,001 – $5,000 8
$5,001 + 12

 

$150K EOD Account Scaling

Profit Range Max Contracts
$0 – $4,000 5
$4,001 – $8,000 8
$8,001 – $12,000 10
$12,001 + 15

 

$250K EOD Account Scaling

Profit Range Max Contracts
$0 – $5,000 6
$5,001 – $12,000 12
$12,001 – $20,000 18
$20,001 + 25
Limited

Only Zero Performance accounts scale contract allowance. At 1.5% locked profit the first level unlocks the next day; at 3% the second level unlocks. Signature and Zero Challenge contract limits do not scale.

Evaluation Phase Pricing Model
  • Legacy Qualification and Momentum Qualification: one-time purchase with no recurring subscription; valid for 30 calendar days.
  • Active Legacy subscriptions opened before August 17, 2026 remain under their existing subscription terms.
  • Fast Track has no Qualification stage.

One-time fee. No subscription.

Expert Advisor (EA)
Yes
No

Semi-automated and fully automated trading, including bots, AI tools and HFT above 300 trades per day, is prohibited on Futures.

Hedging
No data
No

Futures accounts use a netting system. Hedging across multiple accounts or users is prohibited.

Requires Stop Loss
No
No data
Scalping
Yes
Limited

At least 50% of total profit must come from trades held for 10 seconds or longer.

Maximum Risk Limit
No
Limited

There is no fixed percentage risk cap, but irresponsible, all-or-nothing or disproportionate risk-taking can trigger review or account termination.

Copy Trading
Yes
Limited

Allowed only between accounts owned by the same trader. Team trading, signals and copying another trader are prohibited.

News Trading
Yes
Yes
Inactivity Rule
No
Yes

The account closes after 7 days without opening and closing at least one trade.

Consistency Rule
Yes
  • Legacy Master: 40%.
  • Momentum Master: 35%.
  • Fast Track: 20% for the first payout, 25% for the second and 30% from the third onward.
  • No consistency rule applies during Qualification.
Limited
  • Zero Challenge: 40% Best Day rule; if the best day exceeds 40% of total profit, the effective target increases.
  • Zero Performance: no consistency rule.
  • Signature Challenge: no consistency rule.
  • Signature Performance: 35% Best Day rule for payout eligibility.
Hold Weekend
No
No
Prohibited Strategies
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  • Exploiting gaps, illiquid markets, pricing errors or slow data feeds
  • Semi-automated or fully automated trading, bots, AI tools and HFT above 300 trades/day
  • Trading within 2% of a CME product lock limit
  • Irresponsible or all-or-nothing trading
  • Hedging across accounts or users
  • Tick scalping where less than 50% of profit comes from trades held at least 10 seconds
  • Trading anything other than the front-month contract
  • Account rolling and strategies that are not reproducible in real markets
Overnight positions
No
No

All positions are forcibly closed every trading day at 15:10 CT. Trading is permitted from 17:00 to 15:10 CT.

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