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Risk rules compared: E8 Market Futures vs. Earn2trade

How you lose the account

Losing an account in these two firms follows different philosophies of risk control. In E8 Market Futures, the most immediate risks are the drawdown limits and a strict inactivity rule. An account is terminated if it remains inactive for 7 days without opening and closing at least one trade. Furthermore, while they do not have a fixed risk percentage cap per trade, "irresponsible" or "all-or-nothing" trading can lead to account termination after a review.

In Earn2trade, the loss of the account is tied to three main pillars: the maximum drawdown, the daily loss limit, and the "Progression Ladder." Exceeding the allowed number of contracts for your current balance in the evaluation phase constitutes a rule breach that requires a paid reset to continue.

Maximum drawdown

The way the "bottom line" moves is the most critical factor for a trader's survival.

  • E8 Market Futures: Uses an EOD (End of Day) Dynamic Drawdown. This means the limit only updates based on your highest balance at the close of the trading day. Intraday equity peaks do not drag the drawdown up. Crucially, this drawdown locks permanently at the initial balance level once your account grows enough.
    • Numerical Example: You have a $100,000 account with a $3,000 drawdown. If you reach $102,000 intraday but close the day at $101,000, your new drawdown level is $98,000. If your balance reaches $103,000 at the end of a day, the drawdown locks at $100,000 and never moves again.
  • Earn2trade: The behavior changes depending on the phase. In Evaluation and LiveSim, it uses EOD Drawdown. However, in a Live (real) account, it switches to a Trailing Drawdown, which follows the highest equity reached at any moment, including unrealized profits.
    • Numerical Example: In a $100,000 Live account with a $3,500 drawdown, if you open a trade that goes up to $104,000 but you don't close it and the market reverses, your drawdown limit is now $100,500. If the price drops back to your entry, you have lost the account even if your balance never changed.

Daily drawdown

  • E8 Market Futures: Most of their plans (Zero and Signature Challenge) do not have a daily drawdown limit. Only the Signature Performance account features a "Daily Pause" set at 2%. This is a soft breach: if you lose 2% in a day, the account is temporarily disabled, but you can resume trading the next day.
  • Earn2trade: Both the Trader Career Path and Gauntlet Mini have mandatory daily drawdown limits. For a $100,000 account, this limit is usually $2,200. This is a hard rule; hitting it means failing the evaluation or losing the funded account.

Rules beyond drawdown

Risk is also hidden in the fine print of consistency and execution:

  • E8 Market Futures:
    • 10-second rule: At least 50% of your total profit must come from trades held for 10 seconds or longer. "Tick scalping" is prohibited.
    • Consistency: Zero Challenge has a 40% Best Day rule (it increases your target if exceeded), while Signature Performance has a 35% Best Day rule for payout eligibility.
    • CME Lock Limit: Trading within 2% of a CME product lock limit is prohibited.
  • Earn2trade:
    • Progression Ladder: You cannot trade your maximum contract limit from day one if your balance hasn't grown. For example, in a $25,000 account, you start with 2 contracts and only unlock the 3rd after gaining $1,501 in profit.
    • 30% Consistency: In the evaluation phase, no single day can represent 30% or more of the total profit target.

Risk that comes from the setup

The environment where you trade can cause "hidden" losses through slippage or platform failure.

  • Platforms: E8 Market Futures is restricted to Tradovate. This limits the trader to a single execution environment. Earn2trade offers a massive range of over 20 platforms, including NinjaTrader, TradingView, and Quantower. This allows the trader to use the tools they trust most to minimize execution risk.
  • Trading Styles: E8 Market Futures prohibits all forms of automated trading (EAs, bots, AI). This forces 100% manual risk management. Earn2trade allows the use of Algorithmic trading (EAs), which can help some traders maintain a more disciplined risk control than manual execution.

What is at stake and what you recover

  • E8 Market Futures: You risk a one-time fee ($260 for a $100k Signature). There are no activation fees or monthly subscriptions. You can recover your initial fee with the first payout. However, accounts are limited to a maximum of 5 payouts; after the 5th, the account is closed, and you are given a new free Challenge.
  • Earn2trade: The risk is recurring. You pay a monthly subscription during the evaluation. Once funded, there is a Lifetime activation fee ($139) and, in some cases, ongoing monthly fees. This means the "cost of failure" increases the longer you take to pass the evaluation.

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Frequently asked questions

Which firm is cheaper to start a $100,000 account, E8 Market Futures or Earn2trade?

E8 Market Futures is generally cheaper for a $100,000 account because it charges a one-time fee of $260 for the Signature plan with no recurring costs. Earn2trade's Gauntlet Mini $100k costs $315 per month, and if you pass, you must also pay a $139 lifetime activation fee.

Does E8 Market Futures or Earn2trade have a stricter daily loss rule?

Earn2trade is stricter because it imposes a hard daily drawdown limit (e.g., $2,200 for a $100k account) that results in account loss if hit. E8 Market Futures has no daily limit on most accounts, and on its Signature Performance account, the 2% daily limit is only a "soft breach" that pauses trading until the next day.

Which firm is better for automated trading with EAs, E8 Market Futures or Earn2trade?

Earn2trade is the only option for automated trading between the two, as it allows the use of EAs and algorithmic tools. E8 Market Futures strictly prohibits semi-automated or fully automated trading, including bots and AI tools, on all its futures accounts.

What is the difference in how drawdown is calculated between E8 Market Futures and Earn2trade?

E8 Market Futures uses an EOD (End of Day) Dynamic Drawdown that locks at the starting balance once reached. Earn2trade uses EOD drawdown during the evaluation phase, but if you move to a Live (real) funded account, the drawdown becomes a Trailing Drawdown that follows your intraday equity peaks.

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Headquarters

100 Crescent Ct, Unit 700, Dallas, Texas 75201, US

30 N Gould St STE 4000, Sheridan, WY 82801

CEO

Dylan Elchami

Osvaldo Guimarães

Country

United States

United States

Foundation

2021

2016

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Assets
Futures
Futures
Brokers
No data
Dorman Trading, Edge Clear, Ninja Trader, Lunaro Markets
Payout Fee

E8 charges no payout fee. WorkMarket or Rise may charge a processing fee depending on the selected withdrawal method.

Withdrawal Method Fees
Rise $50 per withdrawal for non-US customers
1.5% for US customers
Deel $50 per withdrawal
Bayzat $5-$40
Direct Crypto 0.735%
Platforms
Tradovate
NinjaTrader, Finamark, RTrader, RTrader Pro, Overcharts, Inside Edge Trader, Investor RT, Motive Wave, MultiCharts, Bookmap, Photon, QScalp, QSI, ScalpTool, Trade Navigator, Volfix, Jigsaw Trading, ATAS, Sierra Chart, Quantower, Tradovate, Tradingview, BlackArrow, DeepCharts
Payout Methods
Transfer, Crypto, Rise
Deel, Rise, Crypto, Bayzal
Live Account
No

Challenge and SimFi Performance accounts are simulated. Futures market data is sourced from CME.

No data
Payment Methods
Card, Crypto
Card, PayPal, Crypto, Apple Pay, Google Pay
Payout Frequency
  • Signature Futures: on demand once all payout requirements are met.
  • Zero Starter and Zero Max: daily, minimum $100.

On Demand and processed on Wednesday

Maximum Withdrawal

E8 Signature Futures

Payout $25K $50K $100K $150K
1st–2nd $1,000 $1,250 $2,250 $3,250
3rd–4th $1,250 $2,250 $3,250 $4,250
5th $1,500 $3,250 $4,250 $5,250

E8 Zero Starter

  • $50K: $1,000
  • $100K: $1,600
  • $200K: $2,100

E8 Zero Max

  • $50K: $3,000
  • $100K: $5,000
  • $200K: $7,000

Signature Futures and Zero allow a maximum of 5 payouts per account; after the fifth, the account closes and a free Challenge of the same size is issued.

LiveSim® Gauntlet Mini™

  • Max Withdrawal: $4,000 (Requires $5,000 in total profit).
  • Profit Split: The firm takes a 20% share (deducted monthly or at each withdrawal).

LiveSim® Trader Career Path®

  • Max Withdrawal: The program's profit target minus 20%.
  • Deductions: No monthly deductions; the 20% is only taken from the target amount.
Minimum Withdrawal

$100

$100

Other Payout Requirements

Payouts require successful onboarding and KYC with WorkMarket or Rise. If neither provider accepts the trader, E8 cannot process the payout.

No data
Account Reset

After an account fails, a 10% discount is available for 7 days to retry the same account size and settings.

Variable Pricing ($25K–$50K Accounts)

Reset fees for these entry-level accounts fluctuate according to current promotions and are consistently priced lower than a brand-new subscription:

  • TCP25 (Trader Career Path® 25K)
  • TCP50 (Trader Career Path® 50K)
  • GAU50 (Gauntlet Mini™ 50K)

Fixed Pricing ($100K–$200K Accounts)

Reset fees for these higher-balance accounts remain constant and are not affected by promotional offers:

  • TCP100 (Trader Career Path® 100K) – $100
  • GAU100 (Gauntlet Mini™ 100K) – $100
  • GAU150 (Gauntlet Mini™ 150K) – $130
  • GAU200 (Gauntlet Mini™ 200K) – $155

A complimentary free reset is added after each monthly renewal of your subscription. You can use these free resets at any time while your subscription is active, accumulate more than one, but any unused resets will be forfeited if you cancel.

Add-ons
Yes

Zero Starter and Zero Max allow the payout share to be increased from the 80% base configuration to 100% at checkout.

No
Instant
No
No
One Step
Yes
Yes
Account scaling
No
Yes

Scaling only allowed for Trader Career Path

 

TCP25

Current Account Required Withdrawal (Net) Next Account Size
$25,000 $1,400 $50,000
$50,000 $2,400 $100,000
$100,000 $4,800 $200,000
$200,000 $8,800 Custom Offer

 

TCP50

Current Account Required Withdrawal (Net) Next Account Size
$50,000 $2,400 $100,000
$100,000 $4,800 $200,000
$200,000 $8,800 $400,000
$400,000 $32,000 Custom Offer

 

TCP100

Current Account Required Withdrawal (Net) Next Account Size
$100,000 $4,800 $150,000
$150,000 $7,200 $200,000
$200,000 $8,800 $400,000
$400,000 $32,000 Custom Offer
Max Drawdown

EOD Dynamic Drawdown based on the highest end-of-day balance. Intraday equity does not move it. It locks permanently at the initial balance level.

  • Evaluation and LiveSim: EOD (End Of Day balance)
  • Live: Trailing
Profit Split
  • Signature Futures: 80%.
  • Zero Starter/Max: 80% base; 100% can be selected at checkout.
  • $25K–$200K accounts: 80/20 if the profit reaches or exceeds the threshold set for the account size; 50/50 if it is below the threshold.
  • Trader Career Path® $400K accounts: fixed 60/40.
Free Trial
No
No
Daily Drawdown
  • Signature Challenge: none.
  • Signature Performance: 2% Daily Pause (soft breach; trading resumes the next day).
  • Zero Challenge and Performance: none.

Both Trading Path Career and Gauntlet Mini have daily drawdown limits. On the funded phase, daily drawdown can be removed upon request after the lower threshold of the trader's maximum drawdown reaches the account's starting balance.

Max Allocation
  • Challenge stage: unlimited accounts.
  • Signature Futures: up to 5 active Performance accounts.
  • Zero Starter/Max: up to 3 active Performance accounts. Limits apply per household.

Maximum of 3 funded accounts. Only one of them can be LiveSim

Mandatory buffer
Limited

Signature requires leaving a non-withdrawable buffer equal to the EOD Dynamic Drawdown before payouts. On Zero, any profit left after a payout remains as buffer and cannot be requested in a later cycle.

No
Merge Accounts
No
No
Maximum Trading Days

Unlimited, but the account closes after 7 days of inactivity.

Unlimited

Minimum Trading Days
  • Signature Futures: can pass in 1 day.
  • Zero Starter/Max: earliest pass in 3 days because of the 40% Best Day rule.

None. No minimum trading days are required to pass the evaluation, nor on LiveSim®/Live funded accounts.

Funded Phase Pricing Model

No activation fee or recurring subscription.

Montly fee and Lifetime activation fee

Minimum Profitable Days
  • Signature: 5 profitable days between payouts after the first payout; a profitable day requires at least 0.3% realized profit.
  • Zero Starter/Max: no minimum profitable days in Performance.

No minimum trading days on either Trader Career Path® or The Gauntlet Mini™. The evaluation can be passed as soon as the profit goal is reached.

Payouts on LiveSim® and Live accounts: 5 profitable days before each withdrawal request. They do not need to be consecutive, losing days do not reset the count, and the count restarts after each withdrawal. Minimum daily profit, net of commissions and fees, for a day to count:

  • TCP25: $100
  • TCP50 and GAU50: $150
  • TCP100 and GAU100: $200
  • GAU150: $250
  • GAU200: $350
    The trading day runs from 5:00 p.m. to 3:50 p.m. CT.
Position size scaling
Limited

Only Zero Performance accounts scale contract allowance. At 1.5% locked profit the first level unlocks the next day; at 3% the second level unlocks. Signature and Zero Challenge contract limits do not scale.

Yes

TCP25

Account Type Profit Range Max Contracts
Evaluation $0 - $1,500 2 contracts
$1,501+ 3 contracts
$25,000 LiveSim / Live $0 - $1,500 2 contracts
$1,501+ 3 contracts
$50,000 Live Account $0 - $1,500 2 contracts
$1,501 - $2,000 4 contracts
$2,001+ 6 contracts
$100,000 Live Account $0 - $1,500 3 contracts
$1,501 - $3,000 6 contracts
$3,001 - $4,500 9 contracts
$4,501+ 12 contracts
$200,000 Live Account $0 - $1,500 5 contracts
$1,501 - $3,000 7 contracts
$3,001 - $4,500 10 contracts
$4,501+ 16 contracts

 

TCP50

Account Type Profit Range Max Contracts
Evaluation $0 - $1,500 2 contracts
$1,501 - $2,000 4 contracts
$2,001+ 6 contracts
$50,000 LiveSim / Live $0 - $1,500 2 contracts
$1,501 - $2,000 4 contracts
$2,001+ 6 contracts
$100,000 Live Account $0 - $1,500 3 contracts
$1,501 - $3,000 6 contracts
$3,001 - $4,500 9 contracts
$4,501+ 12 contracts
$200,000 Live Account $0 - $1,500 5 contracts
$1,501 - $3,000 7 contracts
$3,001 - $4,500 10 contracts
$4,501+ 16 contracts
$400,000 Live Account $0 - $1,500 8 contracts
$1,501 - $3,000 12 contracts
$3,001 - $4,500 18 contracts
$4,501+ 30 contracts

 

TCP100

Account Type Profit Range Max Contracts
Evaluation $0 - $1,500 3 contracts
$1,501 - $3,000 6 contracts
$3,001 - $4,500 9 contracts
$4,501+ 12 contracts
$100,000 LiveSim / Live $0 - $1,500 3 contracts
$1,501 - $3,000 6 contracts
$3,001 - $4,500 9 contracts
$4,501+ 12 contracts
$150,000 Live Account $0 - $1,500 4 contracts
$1,501 - $3,000 6 contracts
$3,001 - $4,500 9 contracts
$4,501+ 15 contracts
$200,000 Live Account $0 - $1,500 5 contracts
$1,501 - $3,000 7 contracts
$3,001 - $4,500 10 contracts
$4,501+ 16 contracts
$400,000 Live Account $0 - $1,500 8 contracts
$1,501 - $3,000 12 contracts
$3,001 - $4,500 18 contracts
$4,501+ 30 contracts

 

Virtual Accounts Scaling

Account Type Profit Max Contracts
$50,000 Virtual Account $0 - $1,500 (2 contracts)
$1,501 - $2,000 (4 contracts)
$2,001+ (6 contracts)
$100,000 Virtual Account $0 - $1,500 (3 contracts)
$1,501 - $3,000 (6 contracts)
$3,001 - $4,500 (9 contracts)
$4,501+ (12 contracts)
$150,000 Virtual Account $0 - $1,500 (4 contracts)
$1,501 - $3,000 (6 contracts)
$3,001 - $4,500 (9 contracts)
$4,501+ (15 contracts)
$200,000 Virtual Account $0 - $1,500 (5 contracts)
$1,501 - $3,000 (7 contracts)
$3,001 - $4,500 (10 contracts)
$4,501+ (16 contracts)
Evaluation Phase Pricing Model

One-time fee. No subscription.

Montly fee

Two Steps
No data
No
Expert Advisor (EA)
No

Semi-automated and fully automated trading, including bots, AI tools and HFT above 300 trades per day, is prohibited on Futures.

Yes
VPN
No data
Yes

Not recommended

Hedging
No

Futures accounts use a netting system. Hedging across multiple accounts or users is prohibited.

No data
Requires Stop Loss
No data
No
Scalping
Limited

At least 50% of total profit must come from trades held for 10 seconds or longer.

Yes
Stacking / Layering (DCA)
No data
Yes
Maximum Risk Limit
Limited

There is no fixed percentage risk cap, but irresponsible, all-or-nothing or disproportionate risk-taking can trigger review or account termination.

No data
Copy Trading
Limited

Allowed only between accounts owned by the same trader. Team trading, signals and copying another trader are prohibited.

No
News Trading
Yes
Yes
Inactivity Rule
Yes

The account closes after 7 days without opening and closing at least one trade.

No
Consistency Rule
Limited
  • Zero Challenge: 40% Best Day rule; if the best day exceeds 40% of total profit, the effective target increases.
  • Zero Performance: no consistency rule.
  • Signature Challenge: no consistency rule.
  • Signature Performance: 35% Best Day rule for payout eligibility.
Yes

Evaluation phase: In order to complete the evaluation, no single trading day can account for 30% or more of your total PnL.

Hold Weekend
No
No
Prohibited Strategies
  • Exploiting gaps, illiquid markets, pricing errors or slow data feeds
  • Semi-automated or fully automated trading, bots, AI tools and HFT above 300 trades/day
  • Trading within 2% of a CME product lock limit
  • Irresponsible or all-or-nothing trading
  • Hedging across accounts or users
  • Tick scalping where less than 50% of profit comes from trades held at least 10 seconds
  • Trading anything other than the front-month contract
  • Account rolling and strategies that are not reproducible in real markets
  • Exploiting platform errors.
  • Disruptive trading or spoofing.
  • Excessive daily contracts.
  • Collusion and manipulation.
  • AI or high-speed abuse.
  • Unrealistic market behavior.
  • Exploiting technical flaws.
  • Bypassing restrictions.
  • Trading for others.
Overnight positions
No

All positions are forcibly closed every trading day at 15:10 CT. Trading is permitted from 17:00 to 15:10 CT.

No
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