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Risk rules compared: FFOne Perps and Vest Markets

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How you lose the account

In both firms, the primary way to lose the account is by breaching the established drawdown limits (daily or maximum). However, the specific triggers for a hard breach vary significantly.

At FFOne Perps, you lose the account if you engage in prohibited strategies such as cross-account hedging, high-frequency trading (HFT), or "all-or-nothing" gambling during the evaluation. Interestingly, while the help center and website ban bots entirely, the TruTik builder mentions an exception for their documented API, creating a risk of rule misinterpretation.

At Vest Markets, the account is permanently closed if you exceed the static drawdown. They also strictly prohibit manipulating or exploiting errors in their proprietary platform, including latency arbitrage or inducing Vest's own hedging activity. Using a VPN to circumvent regional restrictions is also a grounds for account termination.

Maximum drawdown

Both firms utilize a static drawdown model, but their long-term behavior is different.

  • FFOne Perps: The drawdown is static and chosen at the time of purchase. It is measured against equity, including open positions. Risk Factor: On funded accounts, after the first payout, the "floor" (the minimum equity level) moves up to the initial starting balance and stays there forever.
  • Vest Markets: The drawdown is static and fixed at account creation. It also includes unrealized PnL (equity).

Numerical Example FFOne Perps:
If you buy a $10,000 account with a 7% Max Drawdown ($700), your floor is $9,300. If you grow the account to $10,800 and take your first payout of $500, your new balance is $10,300. However, the floor moves from $9,300 to $10,000. You now only have $300 of room before losing the account, despite having $300 in profit.

Numerical Example Vest Markets:
If you have a $10,000 account with a 6% Max Drawdown ($600), your floor is $9,400. If you grow the account to $10,800 and withdraw profit, the floor remains at $9,400. Your risk buffer remains independent of the initial balance after withdrawals.

Daily drawdown

The daily drawdown is a critical "trap" for traders who do not understand the reset times.

  • FFOne Perps: It is a fixed amount based on the account size, measured from the equity at the start of the day. There is a discrepancy in the data: the help center says it resets at midnight New York time, while the TruTik builder says 00:00 UTC. This 5-hour difference is a significant risk for traders holding positions near the reset.
  • Vest Markets: When applicable, it resets at 20:00 ET. It is calculated based on the balance including reserved collateral but excluding unrealized PnL. However, current equity is still checked against this threshold.

Rules beyond drawdown

Risk management is not just about the loss limit; it is about how you are allowed to trade.

  • Consistency Rules: Neither FFOne Perps nor Vest Markets enforces a formal consistency rule (like the 30% rule), which reduces the risk of "payout rejection" due to trading style.
  • Stop Loss: Neither firm explicitly requires a mandatory stop loss, though not using one increases the risk of hitting the static floor in a single move.
  • Hedging: Both firms prohibit opposite positions across different accounts (evaluation vs. funded or between different users).
  • Inactivity: FFOne Perps does not list an inactivity rule. Vest Markets does not list a specific inactivity period in the provided data.

Risk that comes from the setup

The platform and the assets determine the execution risk.

  • FFOne Perps: Only offers Crypto Perps through the TruTik builder. The risk here is execution: the firm explicitly bans "exploiting fill, slippage, or mark-price exploits." If the platform lags and you profit from it, the firm may consider it a breach. Leverage is limited (10:1 on BTC/ETH), which acts as a natural risk cap.
  • Vest Markets: Uses a proprietary platform. It offers a much wider range of assets (Forex, Stocks, Indices, ETFs). The risk is the "weekend lock": while Crypto trades 24/7, other markets close, and positions cannot be managed during the weekend, exposing the trader to gap risk.
  • News Trading: FFOne Perps allows it in evaluation but the TruTik list bans it on funded accounts (reviewed manually). This creates a "hidden" risk because the help center does not mention this ban. Vest Markets explicitly allows news trading.

What is at stake and what you recover

The cost of the challenge is the capital at risk.

  • FFOne Perps: Prices for a $10,000 account range from $26 to $131 depending on the chosen drawdown and profit targets. You can recover the fee only if you haven't traded and request it within 14 days. Payouts are 80% (90% with a paid add-on). The minimum withdrawal is $100 gross.
  • Vest Markets: Prices for a $10,000 account range from $35 (2-Step) to $180 (1-Step, No Daily Drawdown). Refunds are available within 28 days if no trading has occurred. Payouts range from 80% to 95%. The minimum withdrawal is remarkably low at 1 USDC.

Frequently asked questions

Which firm is cheaper to start a $10,000 evaluation, FFOne Perps or Vest Markets?

FFOne Perps is cheaper for the most aggressive configurations, with a $10,000 account starting at $26 (for a 12% target and 3% drawdown). Vest Markets starts at $35 for its 2-Step evaluation of the same size. However, for a 1-Step account with more relaxed rules, prices in both firms can exceed $100.

Does FFOne Perps or Vest Markets offer a higher maximum profit split?

Vest Markets offers a higher maximum profit split of up to 95% on its Instant accounts. FFOne Perps offers a standard 80% split, which can be increased to 90% only if the trader purchases a specific add-on at the initial checkout.

Which firm allows more trading assets, FFOne Perps or Vest Markets?

Vest Markets offers a significantly wider range of assets, including Forex, Indices, Stocks, Commodities, and ETFs, in addition to Crypto. FFOne Perps is a specialized firm that only offers Crypto Perpetuals.

Is the minimum withdrawal amount lower at FFOne Perps or Vest Markets?

The minimum withdrawal is much lower at Vest Markets, which allows traders to withdraw as little as 1 USDC from their primary account. FFOne Perps requires a minimum of $100 gross per request, which results in $80 to the trader after the standard 80% split.

Field by field

FFOne Perps and Vest Markets, side by side

Rules, plans, platforms, leverage, commissions and payouts of both, with the option to see only what differs.

Head to head

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Headquarters

Temecula, California, United States

No data
Country

United States

Panama

Foundation

2024

2022

Banned Countries
Afghanistan, Algeria, Angola, Belarus, Burundi, Central African Republic, Cote d'Ivoire, Crimea (incl. Donetsk, Luhansk, Kherson, Zaporizhzhia), Cuba, Democratic Republic of the Congo, Ethiopia, Haiti, Iran, Iraq, Kosovo, Lebanon, Libya, Mali, Mauritius, Mongolia, Montenegro, Morocco, Nicaragua, North Korea, Pakistan, Papua New Guinea, Russia, Somalia, South Sudan, Sri Lanka, Sudan, Syria, Trinidad and Tobago, Tunisia, Turkey, Uganda, Ukraine, Venezuela, Vietnam, Yemen, Zimbabwe
Cuba, North Korea, Iran, Russia, Syria
Assets
Crypto
Crypto, Forex, Indices, Stocks, Commodities, ETFs
Refund
Limited

Full refund within 14 days of purchase if no trade has been placed. No refund after trading, after 14 days or after a breach. Duplicate or mistaken charges are refunded.

Limited

Request a refund from support within 28 days of purchase without engaging with the program, trading, or using an Instant Account or evaluation. Fees are non-refundable once participation starts.

Payout Fee
No data

No Claim Profit fees beyond the profit split.

Platforms
TruTik
Propietary Platform
Payout Methods
Rise
Crypto
Payment Methods
Card, Crypto, ApplePay, GooglePay
Card, Crypto
Payout Frequency

One request per day, from the first funded day. No payout windows or minimum days. The previous request must be paid before a new one.

On demand. Claim Profit credits the Primary Account in 24 hours; USDC can then be withdrawn to a wallet.

Payout Guarantee

No guarantee. Payouts need staff approval and are sent through Rise, usually within 24 hours.

No data
Crypto Weekend Trading
Yes

Perps trade 24/7. Positions can stay open over the weekend.

Yes
Maximum Withdrawal

All available profit, without going below the floor. The help center sets $10,000 gross per user per calendar month across all funded evaluation accounts; the website and the TruTik builder say no cap. After each payout, retained profit becomes a permanent buffer: only new profit above the new balance can be withdrawn later.

No amount cap on Claim Profit. Wallet withdrawals exceeding a rolling $50,000 total in 24 hours require a 24-hour processing period.

Minimum Withdrawal

$100 gross per request ($80 to you at 80%). All trades and orders closed first. Rise verifies identity before the first payout.

1 USDC for withdrawals from the Primary Account to a wallet.

Crypto

BTC and ETH: up to 10:1. Other perps: up to 5:1, and up to 40:1 on select markets. Measured against account size. The TruTik builder states Hyperliquid's maximum for each market.

5:1 - 15:1
Forex
No data
5:1
Metals
No data
5:1
Energies
No data
5:1 - 10:1
Indices
No data
5:1 - 50:1
Stocks
No data
5:1 - 10:1 - 25:1
ETFs
No data
5:1
Commission

0.03% of position value per fill, on opening and closing; same for maker and taker. Open positions also pay or receive funding.

No data
Forex
No data
0% - 0.01%
Metals
No data
0% - 0.01%
Energies
No data
0% - 0.01%
Indices
No data
0% - 0.0025% - 0.01%
Stocks
No data
0% - 0.01%
Crypto
No data
0% - 0.01%
ETFs
No data
0% - 0.01%
Swap Free
Limited

No swaps. Open positions pay or receive the market's periodic funding rate, which affects balance and drawdown.

No data
Account Reset
No

No resets. After a breach, you need a new evaluation.

No data
Add-ons
Yes

90% profit split add-on at checkout. Its price depends on the build and it is never discounted.

No data
Instant
No
Yes
One Step
Yes
Yes
Two Steps
No
Yes
Max Drawdown

Static, chosen at purchase, measured on equity including open positions. Touching the floor closes the account. On the funded account, the floor moves up to the starting balance for good after the first payout; TruTik says an accepted request already raises it, even if later rejected.

Static, fixed at account creation. Equity includes unrealized PnL. Breaching the limit permanently closes the account.

Profit Split

80% included. 90% with the add-on, only at checkout; it carries over to the funded account.

No data
Daily Drawdown

Hard breach: reaching it closes the account, in evaluation and in funded. Fixed amount by account size, measured from equity at the start of the day, open positions included. The help center resets it at midnight New York time; the TruTik builder shows 00:00 UTC.

When applicable, resets at 20:00 ET using balance including reserved collateral, excluding unrealized PnL. Transfers adjust the floor dollar-for-dollar; current equity is checked. Continues in the funded phase.

Three Steps
No
No data
Max Allocation
250,000
250,000
Maximum Accounts

Up to 5 funded accounts at a time per the TruTik checkout; the help center says 10. Unlimited evaluations in progress.

Up to 10 funded accounts and 100 evaluations per user, according to current platform limits.

Maximum Trading Days

No time limit.

No time limit.

Minimum Trading Days

None.

No minimum in either evaluation or the funded phase.

Minimum Profitable Days

None.

No data
Expert Advisor (EA)
No

The website and help center ban bots, EAs and any automated trading. The TruTik prohibited list only allows bots through its documented API.

No

API trading is not available on Funded Accounts, so external bots cannot be connected.

VPN
No data
Limited

VPNs or other anonymization tools must not be used to circumvent service restrictions.

Hedging
Limited

Opposite positions across accounts are prohibited: your own, evaluation against funded, or with someone else.

No data
Scalping
Limited

No minimum holding time is published. High-frequency trading is prohibited.

Yes
Maximum Risk Limit
No

No position-size cap beyond each market's leverage limit.

No data
Copy Trading
Limited

Only between your own accounts. Copying or coordinating trades with other traders is prohibited.

No data
News Trading
Limited

Allowed in the evaluation. The TruTik prohibited list bans news trading on funded accounts, reviewed manually; the help center does not mention it.

Yes
Inactivity Rule
No
No data
Consistency Rule
No
No
Hold Weekend
Yes

24/7 market with no weekend close.

Limited

Positions may be held. Crypto trades 24/7; other markets lock over their weekend closure and positions cannot be managed until reopening.

Prohibited Strategies

Cross-account hedging; group or coordinated trading; sacrificial accounts; all-or-nothing evaluation gambling; high-frequency trading; latency arbitrage; trading stale or wrong prices; fill, slippage, liquidation or mark-price exploits; spoofing, layering and wash trading; quote stuffing; risk-free setups; account sharing or passing services. Consequences: trades removed, profits adjusted, payouts denied, accounts closed and bans.

Price, liquidity, volume, funding, oracle or liquidation manipulation; wash trading, spoofing, layering and prearranged trades; exploiting errors, latency, cross-venue differences or risk and payout calculations; coordinating accounts or identities to abuse the program, including opposite positions; and inducing, anticipating or exploiting Vest hedging activity are prohibited. Attempts are also covered. API trading is unavailable; XRP and HYPE are also unavailable.

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