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E8 Market Futures vs Goat Funded Futures at a glance

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The short answer

Goat Funded Futures (GFF) is the superior choice for traders using EAs, multiple platforms, or seeking instant funding. E8 Market Futures is a more restrictive, US-based option strictly for manual traders who prefer the Tradovate ecosystem and a dynamic drawdown that eventually locks.

Where they actually differ

  • Styles (Automation): GFF allows personal EAs and automated strategies. E8 strictly prohibits any form of automated trading, bots, or AI tools on its futures accounts.
  • Platforms: GFF offers a massive range of compatibility (NinjaTrader, TradingView, Quantower, ATAS, etc.). E8 is locked exclusively to Tradovate.
  • Price & Plans: GFF is significantly cheaper for entry-level challenges (e.g., $50K FLEX for $95) and offers "Instant Funded" accounts that bypass evaluations entirely. E8 only offers evaluation-based plans.
  • Payout Longevity: E8 terminates your account after the 5th payout (issuing a new free challenge). GFF allows you to keep the funded account indefinitely as long as rules are respected.
  • Risk Rules (Drawdown): E8 uses an EOD Dynamic Drawdown that locks at the starting balance. GFF uses an EOD Trailing Drawdown for most plans, though its "Instant" accounts use Intraday Trailing.
  • Cobro (Consistency): GFF has tighter consistency rules on its Instant plans (20% best day) compared to E8 (35-40%), although GFF's FLEX plan has no consistency rule once funded.

Where they are basically the same

  • Price: Both firms operate on a one-time fee model with no recurring monthly subscriptions for evaluations.
  • Risk Rules: Both utilize "soft breach" daily loss limits that pause the account until the next day rather than failing it instantly.
  • Payouts: Both firms utilize Rise as a primary payout method and offer crypto options.
  • Platforms: Both firms provide access to the Tradovate engine for those who prefer web-based trading.
  • Styles: Both strictly prohibit holding positions overnight or over the weekend; all trades must be closed daily.

Pick this one if

  • Goat Funded Futures: You use EAs, need NinjaTrader or Quantower, want the cheapest possible evaluation, or want to skip the evaluation via Instant Funding.
  • E8 Market Futures: You are a manual trader who prefers a US-based firm and wants a drawdown that locks permanently at the initial balance level.

Frequently asked questions

Which firm is cheaper for a $100K challenge, E8 or GFF?

Goat Funded Futures is significantly cheaper; its $100K FLEX Challenge costs $149 and its Sprint Challenge costs $140. In contrast, the E8 Signature $100K challenge costs $260, nearly double the price of GFF's most affordable options.

Can I use Expert Advisors (EAs) on both E8 and GFF?

No. Goat Funded Futures allows personal automated strategies and EAs as long as they don't exploit system vulnerabilities. E8 Market Futures explicitly prohibits all semi-automated and fully automated trading, including bots and AI tools.

Who has better platform variety, E8 or GFF?

Goat Funded Futures offers much better variety, supporting NinjaTrader, Tradovate, TradingView, Quantower, ATAS, Volumetrica, and Tickblaze. E8 Market Futures is limited only to Tradovate.

Which firm allows you to keep a funded account longer, E8 or GFF?

Goat Funded Futures allows you to keep a funded account indefinitely as long as you don't breach the rules. E8 Market Futures automatically closes your account after you receive your 5th payout, forcing you to start over with a new challenge.

Field by field

E8 Markets Futures and Goat Funded Futures, side by side

Rules, plans, platforms, leverage, commissions and payouts of both, with the option to see only what differs.

Head to head

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Headquarters

100 Crescent Ct, Unit 700, Dallas, Texas 75201, US

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CEO

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Country

United States

Hong Kong

Foundation

2021

2024

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Assets
Futures
Futures
Payout Fee

E8 charges no payout fee. WorkMarket or Rise may charge a processing fee depending on the selected withdrawal method.

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Platforms
Tradovate
NinjaTrader, Tradovate, Tradingview, Quantower, ATAS, Volumetrica, Tickblaze, TradeSea
Payout Methods
Transfer, Crypto, Rise
Rise, Crypto
Live Account
No

Challenge and SimFi Performance accounts are simulated. Futures market data is sourced from CME.

No
Payment Methods
Card, Crypto
Card, Crypto
Payout Frequency
  • Signature Futures: on demand once all payout requirements are met.
  • Zero Starter and Zero Max: daily, minimum $100.

EOD Challenge
Every 7 winning days (a winning day = net P&L ≥ 0.2% of account balance).

Sprint Challenge
Every 5 winning days.

FLEX Challenge
Every 5 winning days, with request windows on the 5th-8th and 20th-23rd of each month.

Instant Funded
Every 7 winning days. Minimum 10 calendar days before first payout. After first payout, must surpass previous equity high before next request.

GOAT Daily
Payout requests every 24 hours once funded.

GOAT Access
Weekly payout requests once funded.

Minimum payout: $500 across all sizes.

Payout Guarantee
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Payouts processed within 2 business days. A $500 bonus is automatically applied if processing exceeds this SLA.

Maximum Withdrawal

E8 Signature Futures

Payout $25K $50K $100K $150K
1st–2nd $1,000 $1,250 $2,250 $3,250
3rd–4th $1,250 $2,250 $3,250 $4,250
5th $1,500 $3,250 $4,250 $5,250

E8 Zero Starter

  • $50K: $1,000
  • $100K: $1,600
  • $200K: $2,100

E8 Zero Max

  • $50K: $3,000
  • $100K: $5,000
  • $200K: $7,000

Signature Futures and Zero allow a maximum of 5 payouts per account; after the fifth, the account closes and a free Challenge of the same size is issued.

Caps grow with each payout number. FLEX Challenge does not publish caps.

EOD Challenge

  • 1st: $50K $1,500 · $100K $2,000 · $150K $2,500
  • 2nd: $50K $2,000 · $100K $2,750 · $150K $3,250
  • 3rd: $50K $2,500 · $100K $3,250 · $150K $3,750
  • 4th+: $50K $2,750 · $100K $3,750 · $150K $4,250

Sprint Challenge

  • 1st: $25K $800 · $50K $1,500 · $100K $2,500
  • 2nd: $25K $1,000 · $50K $1,750 · $100K $3,000
  • 3rd: $25K $1,200 · $50K $2,000 · $100K $3,500
  • 4th+: $25K $1,500 · $50K $2,500 · $100K $4,500

Instant Funded (per cycle)

  • $25K: $1,000 · $50K: $2,000 · $75K: $3,000 · $100K: $3,000 · $150K: $4,000

GOAT Daily

  • Per payout: $25K $650 · $50K $1,000 · $100K $1,500 · $150K $2,500
Minimum Withdrawal

$100

$500 across all account sizes

Other Payout Requirements

Payouts require successful onboarding and KYC with WorkMarket or Rise. If neither provider accepts the trader, E8 cannot process the payout.

  • EOD Challenge: 7 winning days.
  • Sprint Challenge: 5 winning days.
  • Instant Funded: 7 winning days and minimum 10 calendar days before the first payout.
  • GOAT Daily: no winning-day requirement once funded.
  • A winning day requires net P&L of at least 0.2% of account balance.
  • Payout submission windows (excluding GOAT Daily): 5th–8th and 20th–23rd of each month.
  • Instant Funded requires exceeding the previous equity high for subsequent payouts.
Account Reset

After an account fails, a 10% discount is available for 7 days to retry the same account size and settings.

Available on evaluation plans (EOD, Sprint, FLEX, GOAT Access). Reset fees:

  • EOD: $50K $59 · $100K $109 · $150K $159
  • Sprint: $25K $46 · $50K $69 · $100K $99
  • FLEX: up to two resets; prices in the challenge catalogue. Resets keep the DLL selection.

Instant Funded and Instant Lite accounts cannot be reset.

Add-ons
Yes

Zero Starter and Zero Max allow the payout share to be increased from the 80% base configuration to 100% at checkout.

Yes

FLEX: optional daily loss limit at checkout for a lower purchase price; applies in both phases, closes the account if reached and is retained on reset. Optional 90% profit split for a 20% surcharge.

Instant
No
Yes
One Step
Yes
Yes
Account scaling
No
Yes

Points-based rewards program (no formal tiers). Earn points by passing challenges, withdrawing, social engagement and trading milestones. Redeem for perks such as:

  • +5% profit split on withdrawal (150 points)
  • Faster 24h withdrawals (150 points)
  • Account scaling +10% size (200 points)
  • +$500 extra max drawdown (200 points)
  • Free $25K / $50K challenge accounts (350 / 500 points)
Max Drawdown

EOD Dynamic Drawdown based on the highest end-of-day balance. Intraday equity does not move it. It locks permanently at the initial balance level.

EOD Challenge

  • EOD Trailing — locks at starting balance once balance is restored
  • $50K: $2,000 (4%) | $100K: $3,000 (3%) | $150K: $4,500 (3%)

Sprint Challenge

  • EOD Trailing — locks at starting balance once balance is restored
  • $25K: $1,000 (4%) | $50K: $2,000 (4%) | $100K: $3,000 (3%)

FLEX Challenge

  • EOD Trailing Max DD — locks at starting balance

Instant Funded

  • Intraday Trailing — locks at starting balance once balance is reached
  • $25K: $1,250 (5%) | $50K: $2,500 (5%) | $75K: $3,750 (5%) | $100K: $5,000 (5%) | $150K: $7,500 (5%)

Instant Lite

  • EOD Trailing — locks at starting balance
  • $25K: $1,000 | $50K: $1,750 | $100K: $3,000

GOAT Daily

  • Evaluation: EOD trailing; locks at starting balance + $100.
  • Funded: intraday trailing.

GOAT Access

  • EOD trailing in evaluation and funded; stops trailing at $50,100
Profit Split
  • Signature Futures: 80%.
  • Zero Starter/Max: 80% base; 100% can be selected at checkout.

EOD Challenge

  • 80% by default
  • 90% with optional Profit Share Add-On (+20% of challenge price)

FLEX Challenge

  • 80% by default
  • 90% with optional Profit Share Add-On (+20% of challenge price)

Sprint Challenge

  • 100% on the first $10,000 in payouts
  • 90% after the first $10,000

Instant Funded

  • 100% on the first $10,000 in payouts
  • 90% after the first $10,000

Instant Lite

  • 90% from the first payout (no add-on required)
Free Trial
No
No
Daily Drawdown
  • Signature Challenge: none.
  • Signature Performance: 2% Daily Pause (soft breach; trading resumes the next day).
  • Zero Challenge and Performance: none.

EOD Challenge

  • Evaluation: no daily loss limit
  • Funded: soft breach 2.5% of starting balance ($50K: $1,250 | $100K: $2,500 | $150K: $3,750)

Sprint Challenge

  • No daily loss limit (evaluation or funded)

FLEX Challenge

  • No daily loss limit by default. Optional DLL at checkout, in both phases; touching it closes the account. Cannot be changed after purchase; resets retain the selection. Values are in the challenge catalogue.

Instant Funded

  • 3% of starting balance (soft breach - account pauses until next trading day)
  • $25K: $750 | $50K: $1,500 | $75K: $2,250 | $100K: $3,000 | $150K: $4,500

Instant Lite

  • $25K: none | $50K: $1,000 | $100K: $2,000

GOAT Daily

  • Evaluation and funded: $25K $500 · $50K $1,000 · $100K $1,500 · $150K $2,250.
  • Soft breach: positions are closed and trading is paused for the day.

GOAT Access

  • No daily loss limit (evaluation or funded)
Max Allocation
  • Challenge stage: unlimited accounts.
  • Signature Futures: up to 5 active Performance accounts.
  • Zero Starter/Max: up to 3 active Performance accounts. Limits apply per household.

Initial account sizes up to $150,000. Scaling via rewards program can grow allocation beyond that, with documented brand-wide payouts of $18M+ and up to $750,000 available across plans.

Mandatory buffer
Limited

Signature requires leaving a non-withdrawable buffer equal to the EOD Dynamic Drawdown before payouts. On Zero, any profit left after a payout remains as buffer and cannot be requested in a later cycle.

Yes

GOAT Daily funded buffer: $25K $1,100 · $50K $2,100 · $100K $3,100 · $150K $4,600.

Merge Accounts
No
No
Maximum Trading Days

Unlimited, but the account closes after 7 days of inactivity.

No time limit on any plan.

Minimum Trading Days
  • Signature Futures: can pass in 1 day.
  • Zero Starter/Max: earliest pass in 3 days because of the 40% Best Day rule.

FLEX, EOD, Sprint and Instant Funded have no minimum trading days.

GOAT Daily: no minimum trading days once funded.

GOAT Access: no minimum days and no time limit in the evaluation.

Funded Phase Pricing Model

No activation fee or recurring subscription.

No activation fee after passing, except on GOAT Access, which charges it only once the evaluation is passed. Instant Funded is a one-time fee that grants funded-account access immediately, without an evaluation phase.

Minimum Profitable Days
  • Signature: 5 profitable days between payouts after the first payout; a profitable day requires at least 0.3% realized profit.
  • Zero Starter/Max: no minimum profitable days in Performance.
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Position size scaling
Limited

Only Zero Performance accounts scale contract allowance. At 1.5% locked profit the first level unlocks the next day; at 3% the second level unlocks. Signature and Zero Challenge contract limits do not scale.

Yes

Contract limits (mini / micro) scale with account size and plan:

EOD Challenge

  • $50K: 5 / 50
  • $100K: 9 / 90
  • $150K: 12 / 120

Sprint Challenge

  • $25K: 3 / 30
  • $50K: 5 / 50
  • $100K: 7 / 70

FLEX Challenge

  • $50K: 3 / 30
  • $100K: 5 / 50
  • $150K: 8 / 80

Instant Funded

  • $25K: 3 / 30
  • $50K: 4 / 40
  • $75K: 5 / 50
  • $100K: 6 / 60
  • $150K: 8 / 80
Evaluation Phase Pricing Model

One-time fee. No subscription.

One-time fee. No monthly subscription and no recurring charges. EOD, Sprint, FLEX Challenge and GOAT Access are paid up-front to enter the evaluation phase.

Two Steps
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No
Expert Advisor (EA)
No

Semi-automated and fully automated trading, including bots, AI tools and HFT above 300 trades per day, is prohibited on Futures.

Yes

Personal automated strategies and EAs are allowed, provided they are consistent with the trader's style and do not exploit system vulnerabilities, latency, or data feed anomalies. Strategies designed to manipulate the simulated environment are prohibited.

VPN
No data
Yes
Hedging
No

Futures accounts use a netting system. Hedging across multiple accounts or users is prohibited.

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Requires Stop Loss
No data
No
Scalping
Limited

At least 50% of total profit must come from trades held for 10 seconds or longer.

Limited

Manual scalping allowed. Tick scalping and trades closed within 2 minutes have their profits deducted (micro-scalping rule). FLEX is exempt from the 2-minute rule: at each payout, at least 50% of closed trades and 50% of net profit must come from trades held longer than 1 minute; otherwise the payout is declined and sub-minute profit deducted. Tick scalping remains prohibited.

Stacking / Layering (DCA)
No data
Yes
Martingale
No data
Yes
Maximum Risk Limit
Limited

There is no fixed percentage risk cap, but irresponsible, all-or-nothing or disproportionate risk-taking can trigger review or account termination.

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Copy Trading
Limited

Allowed only between accounts owned by the same trader. Team trading, signals and copying another trader are prohibited.

Yes

Copy trading between your own accounts is allowed (e.g. between multiple GFF accounts in your name). Bundle discounts (2 or 3 accounts) are available and you can copy trades to all simultaneously. Cross-user copy trading is not addressed in the helpcenter.

News Trading
Yes
Yes

Evaluation phase (EOD, Sprint, FLEX)
No news trading restrictions.

Funded phase (all account types including Instant)
2-minute buffer around high-impact news events. Within 2 min before/after release you cannot open, close or trigger pending orders. Positions opened before the window may be held through the event.

GOAT Access
News trading not allowed.

Microscalping rule
EOD, Sprint, Instant: profits from trades closed within 2 minutes of opening are deducted (not a breach but profits invalid).
FLEX: microscalping rule does NOT apply.

Inactivity Rule
Yes

The account closes after 7 days without opening and closing at least one trade.

15 consecutive days without trades results in account breach. Applies to both evaluation and funded accounts. Once breached, account cannot be reinstated and fees are non-refundable. Notify support in advance if you plan to be away.

Consistency Rule
Limited
  • Zero Challenge: 40% Best Day rule; if the best day exceeds 40% of total profit, the effective target increases.
  • Zero Performance: no consistency rule.
  • Signature Challenge: no consistency rule.
  • Signature Performance: 35% Best Day rule for payout eligibility.
Yes

No single day can represent more than:

  • EOD Challenge — Evaluation: 50% of total profits. Funded: 30% during a payout period.
  • Sprint Challenge — Evaluation: 50%. Funded: 35%.
  • FLEX Challenge — Evaluation: 50%. Funded: none.
  • Instant Funded — 20% (the tightest of all plans).
  • Instant Lite — 15% for the 1st payout, 20% for the 2nd, 25% from the 3rd onwards.
  • GOAT Daily — Evaluation: 40%. Funded: none.
  • GOAT Access: none during the evaluation.

Violating the rule blocks the next payout but does not close the account.

Hold Weekend
No
No

Overnight holding NOT permitted (all account types). All positions must be closed before the end of the trading session. Weekend holding also NOT permitted.

Prohibited Strategies
  • Exploiting gaps, illiquid markets, pricing errors or slow data feeds
  • Semi-automated or fully automated trading, bots, AI tools and HFT above 300 trades/day
  • Trading within 2% of a CME product lock limit
  • Irresponsible or all-or-nothing trading
  • Hedging across accounts or users
  • Tick scalping where less than 50% of profit comes from trades held at least 10 seconds
  • Trading anything other than the front-month contract
  • Account rolling and strategies that are not reproducible in real markets
  • Tick scalping and other extremely short-duration trading.
  • Except on FLEX, trades closed within 2 minutes - profits are deducted (micro-scalping rule).
  • Unrealistic execution that relies on simulated market conditions (slippage, liquidity, partial fills) not replicable in live.
  • Holding positions overnight or over the weekend.
  • Trading affected instruments inside the 2-minute high-impact news buffer on funded accounts.
Overnight positions
No

All positions are forcibly closed every trading day at 15:10 CT. Trading is permitted from 17:00 to 15:10 CT.

No
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