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The5ers Futures vs forTraders Futures at a glance

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The short answer

The5ers is the budget-friendly choice for traders seeking low-cost evaluations and End-of-Day drawdown, while forTraders is a premium alternative offering instant funding options and significantly faster, on-demand payouts.

Where they actually differ

  • Price (Determinant): The5ers is substantially cheaper. A 50K evaluation costs $100 at The5ers, whereas the equivalent "Fast" challenge at forTraders is $199.
  • Payouts (Cobro): forTraders offers on-demand payouts (after 1–7 profitable days depending on the plan) with a 48-hour processing guarantee. The5ers requires a 14-day cycle and a minimum 4% profit milestone before requesting funds.
  • Instant Funding (Styles): forTraders offers "Futures Instant" accounts where you skip the evaluation entirely. The5ers only provides evaluation-based paths.
  • Risk Rules (Riesgo): The5ers uses a 4% EOD (End-of-Day) trailing drawdown as standard. forTraders uses intraday trailing drawdown for its "Fast" accounts, which is generally harder to manage than EOD.
  • Platforms (Plataforma): The5ers uses BlackArrow. forTraders uses its proprietary platform, For Traders X.
  • Expert Advisors (Estilos): forTraders allows EAs as support tools (alerts/management). The5ers strictly prohibits all algorithmic and high-frequency trading.

Where they are basically the same

  • Profit Split: Both firms offer a standard 80% share for the trader.
  • Consistency: Both apply a 40% consistency rule (maximum profit from a single position/day) during the evaluation phase.
  • News Trading: Both allow trading during macroeconomic news events without restrictions.
  • Time Limits: Neither firm imposes a maximum number of trading days to complete evaluations.

Pick this one if

The5ers Futures

  • You want the lowest possible entry price for a futures challenge.
  • You prefer the safety of an End-of-Day drawdown calculation.
  • You are looking for a firm with a long-standing reputation (founded 2016).

forTraders Futures

  • You want to skip the evaluation and start with instant funding.
  • You prioritize receiving your profits as quickly as possible (on-demand).
  • You use EAs for trade management or partial automation.

Frequently asked questions

Which firm is cheaper to start a 50K evaluation, The5ers or forTraders?

The5ers is significantly cheaper, offering its 50K "Day Trade" challenge for $100. In contrast, forTraders charges $199 for its 50K "Futures Fast" evaluation, making The5ers nearly 50% more affordable for this account size.

Who offers faster payouts, The5ers or forTraders?

forTraders offers much faster access to capital, allowing on-demand payouts after just 1 to 7 profitable days depending on the specific program. The5ers requires traders to wait 14 days for the first payout and reach a minimum profit of 4% of the initial balance.

Can I use Expert Advisors (EAs) on both The5ers and forTraders?

No. The5ers strictly prohibits all forms of algorithmic and automated trading. forTraders allows EAs only as decision-support tools (such as for alerts or partial position management), but fully autonomous trading bots are banned in both firms.

How does the drawdown calculation differ between The5ers and forTraders?

The5ers uses an End-of-Day (EOD) trailing drawdown, which only updates based on your balance at the end of the day. forTraders uses an intraday trailing drawdown for its "Fast" accounts, which tracks your peak equity in real-time, although it does offer EOD options on its "Fast Pro" and "Instant" models.

Field by field

forTraders Futures and The5ers Futures, side by side

Rules, plans, platforms, leverage, commissions and payouts of both, with the option to see only what differs.

Head to head

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Headquarters

Goldcrest Executive Building, Office No. 1210, JLT, Cluster C, Dubai, United Arab Emirates

14 Haroshet st, Raanaa, Israel

CEO

Jakub Rož

Saul Lokier

Country

United Arab Emirates

Israel

Foundation

2023

2016

Banned Countries
Pakistan, Iran, Syria, Myanmar, Bangladesh, North Korea, Russian Federation, Belarus, Cuba, Lebanon, Libya, Sudan, United States, United Arab Emirates
Afghanistan, Belarus, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Burundi, Central African Republic, Cuba, Congo Republic, Crimea, Democratic Republic of Congo, Donetsk, Eritrea, Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, Iraq, Iran, Israel, Kherson, Laos, Lebanon, Liberia, Libya, Luhansk, Myanmar, North Korea, Palestinian Territory, Papua New Guinea, Russia, South Sudan, Sudan, Somalia, Syria, Vanuatu, Venezuela, Yemen, Zaporizhzhia
Assets
Futures
Indices, Currencies, Metals, Agriculture, Energies
Brokers

Proprietary platform For Traders X. Liquidity provider not publicly disclosed.

No data
Refund
No

No traditional refund. No activation fee after passing Fast/Fast Pro.

No data
Payout Fee
  • Crypto ($100 – $499): $25
  • Rise $500 or more: $50

3.5% for Rise, cryptocurrencies and bank transfers. No fee when the payout is converted into Hub Credits.

Platforms
For Traders X
BlackArrow
Payout Methods
Transfer, Crypto, Rise
Rise, Crypto, Transfer
Payment Methods
Card, Crypto, Transfer
Card, PayPal, Crypto
Payout Frequency
  • Futures Fast: on-demand (after 5 profitable days and offsetting trailing drawdown)
  • Futures Instant: on-demand (after 7 profitable days)
  • Futures Fast Pro: on-demand (after 1 profitable day, balance > $52K)

First payout after 14 days; subsequent payouts every 14 days after the last approved withdrawal.

Payout Guarantee

48 hours: if not paid within 48h, 100% profit split

Approved withdrawals are normally processed within 3 business days.

Minimum Withdrawal
  • Minimum: $100 in wallet
  • Maximum per cycle by product:
    · Futures Fast 25K: $800
    · Futures Fast 50K: $1,500
    · Futures Fast 100K: $2,500
    · Futures Instant 25K: $1,500
    · Futures Instant 50K: $3,000
    · Futures Instant 100K: $4,500
    · Futures Fast Pro 50K: $250-$1,200 per cycle, final $10,000 (max 5 withdrawals)

A payout can be requested after reaching at least 4% profit over the initial account balance.

Live Account
No data
No

The5ers states that all activity is conducted in a simulated trading environment.

Maximum Withdrawal
No data

25K: $1,250. 50K: payouts 1–4 are capped at $1,500 / $2,000 / $2,500 / $3,000; later payouts remain capped at $3,000. 100K and 150K: 3% of the current balance.

Other Payout Requirements
No data

The funded account must be at least 14 days old and have reached at least 4% profit. The 14-day cycle restarts after scaling.

Futures

Per-contract margins set by underlying instrument. Position size capped per account size.

No data
Futures
0.2
No data
Commission
No data

Standard futures: $5 per side. Micro futures: $2.50 per side.

Swap Free
No
No data
Add-ons
No
No data
Instant
Yes
No
One Step
Yes
Yes
Account scaling
Yes

Scaling unlocked through the Loyalty Program (5 tiers: Starter, Rising Star, Pro, VIP, Legend). Increments depend on tier. Applies to all account types.

Yes

At every approved 10% profit milestone, buying power increases by 5%, up to $500,000.

Two Steps
No
No data
Max Drawdown
  • Futures Fast: $1,000 (25K) / $2,000 (50K) / $2,500 (100K), trailing
  • Futures Fast Pro: $2,000 EOD trailing (50K)
  • Futures Instant: 5% EOD trailing

4% EOD trailing drawdown, calculated from the highest midnight balance or equity. After a payout, it resets to 4% below the new balance.

Profit Split

All futures products: 80%

80% for the trader across all funded accounts.

Free Trial
No
No data
Daily Drawdown
  • Futures Fast: none
  • Futures Fast Pro: $1,000 (50K)
  • Futures Instant: 3% from highest day equity
No data
Three Steps
No
No data
Max Allocation

$300,000 combined across all Master Accounts and Instant Models (Forex + Crypto + Futures shared cap). No allocation limit during Challenge phase.

500,000
Mandatory buffer
No

No mandatory buffer. Instead, when you request a payout your maximum trailing drawdown locks at your starting balance.

No
Merge Accounts
No
No data
Maximum Trading Days

No time limit on any futures account.

No time limit. At least one trade must be placed every 14 days.

Monthly Competition
Yes
No data
Minimum Profitable Days
  • Futures Fast Challenge: 5 profitable days before reward request
  • Futures Fast Pro: 1 profitable day per reward request (50K)
  • Futures Instant: 7 profitable days
No data
Minimum Trading Days
No data

The evaluation can be passed in one trading day while respecting the consistency rule.

Funded Phase Pricing Model
No data

No monthly fee. The current program catalogue shows no activation fee.

Position size scaling
No data
Yes

Every approved 10% profit milestone adds 1 mini and 10 micro contracts.

Evaluation Phase Pricing Model
No data

One-time evaluation fee with no monthly subscription.

Expert Advisor (EA)
No

EAs allowed only as decision-support tools (alerts, partial management, predefined rules). Fully autonomous trading bots are prohibited.

No

Algorithmic and high-frequency trading are prohibited.

VPN
Yes
Yes
Hedging
No

Cross-account hedging is forbidden.

No
Requires Stop Loss
No
No
Scalping
Yes

Manual scalping allowed with minimum 5-second hold per trade. Tick scalping and HFT forbidden.

Yes
Stacking / Layering (DCA)
Yes
Yes
Martingale
No

Martingale strategies are forbidden.

Yes
Maximum Risk Limit
Yes

Position size capped by contract count per account (see Max Allocation).

No data
Copy Trading
No

Outbound copy allowed; inbound copy from external sources forbidden.

Limited

Only between the trader's own 25K and 50K accounts, with a combined maximum allocation of $75,000.

News Trading
Yes

News trading allowed without restrictions on Futures accounts.

Yes
Inactivity Rule
  • Futures Fast Challenge: 7 days
  • Futures Fast Master: 14 days
  • Futures Fast Pro Challenge: 7 days / Master: 14 days
  • Futures Instant: 7 days

Days counted from the moment a position is CLOSED, not opened. Minimal 0.01-lot trades to game the rule don't count.

Yes

At least one trade must be placed every 14 days.

Consistency Rule
Yes
  • Futures Fast Challenge: best day's profit must be < 40% of total accumulated profit. No consistency target on Master.
  • Futures Fast Pro Challenge: same 40% rule.
  • Futures Instant: best day cannot exceed 15% of total profit.
  • Calculation: Best Day Profit / 0.40 = Minimum required total profit.
Yes

40% per-position consistency rule during evaluation and funded stages. It is calculated using accumulated profitable trades; losing trades are not deducted.

Hold Weekend
Yes

Weekend holds are unrestricted.

No
Prohibited Strategies
  • Arbitrage (latency, reverse, statistical)
  • HFT
  • Tick scalping (under 5 seconds)
  • Fully autonomous bots/EAs
  • Cross-account hedging
  • Gambling behaviors
  • Martingale
  • Inbound copy trading and signal services
  • Group/signal trading from Telegram, Discord etc.

High-frequency trading, algorithmic trading and hedging.

Overnight positions
No data
Limited

Day Trade does not allow overnight positions. Swing allows limited overnight exposure: 1 mini/10 micros on 25K and 50K, 2/20 on 100K and 3/30 on 150K.

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