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The real cost of Blue Guardian Futures and forTraders Futures

Blue Guardian Futures is the more economical choice for traders looking for the lowest possible entry price and a higher profit share, whereas forTraders Futures positions itself as a premium "career" firm where you pay more upfront in exchange for loyalty salaries and institutional-style perks. While Blue Guardian Futures wins on raw evaluation costs, forTraders Futures can be cheaper for long-term swing traders who avoid their high per-order commissions.

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Entry price

The cost of starting a challenge is significantly lower at Blue Guardian Futures. Their Reserve plan for a $50,000 account costs only $100, while the equivalent "Futures Fast" account at forTraders Futures costs $199. If you are looking for the absolute cheapest entry into futures trading, Blue Guardian Futures offers a $25,000 account for just $64.

In the "Instant Funding" category, the dynamic shifts. A $50,000 Direct account at Blue Guardian Futures costs $494, while forTraders Futures offers its $50,000 Instant model for $399. For traders who want to skip evaluations, forTraders Futures provides a cheaper upfront path, although it comes with a lower profit split.

What you pay while trading

Operating daily is more expensive at forTraders Futures due to its commission structure. They charge 0.2% per order with a minimum of $3. For a high-frequency trader or scalper, these "micro-costs" can erode thousands of dollars in profit over a month. Blue Guardian Futures does not disclose a proprietary commission markup, relying on standard platform fees from providers like Tradovate.

Another hidden operational cost is the platform. forTraders Futures forces the use of their proprietary For Traders X platform. In contrast, Blue Guardian Futures offers flexibility with Tradovate, Volsys, and ProjectX, allowing traders to use tools they might already own or prefer, potentially saving on new software learning curves.

What mistakes cost you

The cost of a mistake—failing the account—is mitigated differently by each firm:

  • Blue Guardian Futures offers a 30% discount on resets for evaluation accounts. If you fail a $50,000 Reserve account, trying again costs you $70 instead of $100. Furthermore, their Daily Loss Limit (DLL) is a "soft breach," meaning the account is only disabled for the day rather than terminated, saving you the entire cost of a new challenge.
  • forTraders Futures uses a loyalty system. While they don't offer a flat reset discount, reaching higher tiers (like Gold) grants you a free challenge entry if you fail. However, their DLL is a hard breach on several models, meaning a single bad day can cost you the full price of a new account ($139 to $339).

Both firms use trailing drawdowns, but Blue Guardian Futures uses End-of-Day (EOD) trailing across all plans, which is generally "cheaper" for the trader as it doesn't penalize intra-day peaks. forTraders Futures uses live trailing on its "Fast" models, which is much easier to hit and thus more expensive in terms of lost accounts.

What it costs to get paid

This is where Blue Guardian Futures takes a larger cut of your success. They charge a 2% processing fee on every withdrawal via Riseworks. Additionally, they have a high minimum withdrawal of $500. If you have $400 in profit, that money is effectively "locked," costing you in liquidity.

forTraders Futures has a lower minimum withdrawal of $100, but they charge fixed fees: $25 for small crypto withdrawals and $50 for Rise transfers. Mathematically, for a $1,000 payout, Blue Guardian Futures charges you $20, while forTraders Futures charges $50. However, the real cost difference is in the profit split: Blue Guardian Futures gives you 90%, whereas forTraders Futures starts at 80%. On a $10,000 profit, choosing forTraders Futures costs you $1,000 in lost profit share compared to Blue Guardian Futures.

Where each one hides its cost

Blue Guardian Futures hides its cost in the "Profit Buffer." On a $50,000 Standard or Express account, you must earn $2,100 before you can withdraw a single cent. This buffer must remain in the account, meaning your first $2,100 of profit is essentially unspendable collateral.

forTraders Futures hides its cost in payout caps. For a $50,000 Fast account, you can only withdraw a maximum of $1,500 per cycle. If you have a windfall day of $5,000, you cannot access most of your money for weeks, representing a significant "opportunity cost" for your capital.

Cheapest for whom

  • Blue Guardian Futures is the cheapest for high-volume scalpers and beginners who want the lowest entry price ($64) and the most forgiving drawdown (EOD) with the highest profit split (90%).
  • forTraders Futures is the cheapest for consistent, long-term professionals who can reach the "Gold" tier to unlock a $1,500 monthly salary, which eventually offsets all initial entry fees and commissions.

Frequently asked questions

Which firm is cheaper for a $50,000 evaluation, Blue Guardian Futures or forTraders Futures?

Blue Guardian Futures is significantly cheaper, with its $50,000 Reserve plan priced at $100, compared to the $199 charged by forTraders Futures for their Futures Fast account of the same size. Blue Guardian Futures also allows for a 30% discount on resets, further lowering the cost of failure compared to the full-price restarts at forTraders Futures.

Does Blue Guardian Futures or forTraders Futures have higher trading commissions?

forTraders Futures has higher and more transparently expensive commissions, charging 0.2% per order with a minimum of $3. Blue Guardian Futures uses external platforms like Tradovate and does not add a significant proprietary markup, making it the more cost-effective choice for traders who execute many orders per day.

Between Blue Guardian Futures and forTraders Futures, which has a better profit split?

Blue Guardian Futures offers a superior profit split of 90% across all its funded accounts and plans. In contrast, forTraders Futures offers a standard 80% profit split, meaning that for every $1,000 earned, you keep $100 more at Blue Guardian Futures than you would at forTraders Futures.

Which firm makes it more expensive to withdraw small amounts, Blue Guardian Futures or forTraders Futures?

Blue Guardian Futures makes it more difficult by setting a high minimum withdrawal threshold of $500, whereas forTraders Futures allows withdrawals from $100. However, forTraders Futures charges fixed fees up to $50 per payout, while Blue Guardian Futures charges a percentage-based 2% fee, meaning Blue Guardian Futures is actually cheaper for large withdrawals but forTraders Futures is more accessible for small ones.

Field by field

Blue Guardian Futures and forTraders Futures, side by side

Rules, plans, platforms, leverage, commissions and payouts of both, with the option to see only what differs.

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Headquarters

Algaroud Center, 2nd Floor, Office 101-05, Dubai, UAE

Goldcrest Executive Building, Office No. 1210, JLT, Cluster C, Dubai, United Arab Emirates

CEO

Sean Bainton

Jakub Rož

Country

United Arab Emirates

United Arab Emirates

Foundation

2021

2023

Banned Countries
Afghanistan, Albania, Algeria, Angola, Bahamas, Barbados, Belarus, Bosnia & Herzegovina, Botswana, Bulgaria, Burma (Myanmar), Burundi, Burkina Faso, Cambodia, Cameroon, Central African Republic, China, Côte d'Ivoire, Crimea, Croatia, Cuba, Democratic Republic of Congo, Ecuador, Ethiopia, Ghana, Haiti, Hong Kong, Iceland, Indonesia, Iran, Iraq, Jamaica, Kenya, Kosovo, Laos, Lebanon, Liberia, Libya, Macedonia, Mali, Mauritius, Mongolia, Montenegro, Mozambique, Namibia, Nicaragua, Nigeria, North Korea, Pakistan, Panama, Papua New Guinea, Philippines, Qatar, Romania, Russia, Senegal, Serbia, Slovenia, Somalia, South Africa, South Sudan, Sri Lanka, Sudan, Syria, Tanzania, Trinidad and Tobago, Tunisia, Turkey, Uganda, Ukraine, Venezuela, Vietnam, Yemen
Pakistan, Iran, Syria, Myanmar, Bangladesh, North Korea, Russian Federation, Belarus, Cuba, Lebanon, Libya, Sudan, United States, United Arab Emirates
Assets
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Futures
Refund
No
No

No traditional refund. No activation fee after passing Fast/Fast Pro.

Payout Fee

2% processing fee on all withdrawals (Riseworks).

  • Crypto ($100 – $499): $25
  • Rise $500 or more: $50
Platforms
Tradovate, ProjectX, Volsys, DeepCharts
For Traders X
Demo Account
Unknown
No data
Payout Methods
Transfer, Crypto
Transfer, Crypto, Rise
Live Account
Yes

After completing the evaluation and trading consistently on a Simulated Funded Account, the Risk Management team may invite traders to Live. There is no fixed timeline; each trader is evaluated individually. From 28/09/2026, all eligible funded accounts merge into one Live Account at transition. Their starting Live drawdowns add together: five $50K accounts provide $10,000 of combined drawdown. The $15,000 cap applies to new purchases after 28/09/2026. Contract limits scale with the combined drawdown, up to 10 minis / 100 micros. At each live profit milestone of 0.5x, 1x and 1.5x the starting drawdown, 25% of that drawdown is deposited into the Live balance as a bonus. The bonus becomes withdrawable after five winning days with the account in profit. Instead of trading Live, the trader may choose a one-time Live Buyout of 50% of the combined starting drawdown at transition. It is available once per trader, with a 28-day cooldown afterward. Live accounts use end-of-day drawdown with no daily loss limit. CME professional data, trade commissions and platform fees are deducted from the balance. Contract limits may increase with consistent performance.

No data
Payment Methods
Card, Crypto, ApplePay, GooglePay
Card, Crypto, Transfer
Payout Frequency
  • Standard: every 3 days, from 3 days after the first trade
  • Reserve: instant payout once eligible (5 winning days)
  • Express: daily payouts
  • Direct: instant payout from day one

Withdrawal eligibility is confirmed by the end-of-day (EOD) dashboard update. Once the withdrawal button is enabled, a request can be submitted at any time without waiting for the next EOD update.

  • Futures Fast: on-demand (after 5 profitable days and offsetting trailing drawdown)
  • Futures Instant: on-demand (after 7 profitable days)
  • Futures Fast Pro: on-demand (after 1 profitable day, balance > $52K)
Payout Guarantee

Payouts processed within 24 business hours. If Blue Guardian misses that window through a delay on their end, you receive an extra 10% profit share on that payout. Does not apply on weekends or bank holidays, nor to delays from compliance or risk reviews, Rise onboarding or a pending trader response.

48 hours: if not paid within 48h, 100% profit split

Minimum Withdrawal

$500 across all account types.

  • Minimum: $100 in wallet
  • Maximum per cycle by product:
    · Futures Fast 25K: $800
    · Futures Fast 50K: $1,500
    · Futures Fast 100K: $2,500
    · Futures Instant 25K: $1,500
    · Futures Instant 50K: $3,000
    · Futures Instant 100K: $4,500
    · Futures Fast Pro 50K: $250-$1,200 per cycle, final $10,000 (max 5 withdrawals)
Brokers
No data

Proprietary platform For Traders X. Liquidity provider not publicly disclosed.

Futures
No data

Per-contract margins set by underlying instrument. Position size capped per account size.

Futures
No data
0.2
Swap Free
No data
No
Account Reset
Yes

Evaluation accounts can be reset at 30% off the original price. After failing the evaluation, the trader has 7 days to decide whether to reset. Funded accounts cannot be reset.

No data
Add-ons
Yes

Reserve challenges are configurable at checkout. Traders can choose a Daily Loss Limit or no Daily Loss Limit, combined with a 40% consistency rule (3-day pass) or a 50% consistency rule (2-day pass). The price varies depending on the selected combination.

Express challenges offer an optional 50% evaluation consistency add-on instead of the standard 40% rule, allowing traders to qualify after as few as 2 green days.

No
Instant
Yes
Yes
One Step
Yes
Yes
Account scaling
Yes

Scaling applies to funded Reserve and Express accounts only. Standard and Direct keep flat contract limits from start to finish.

On Reserve and Express you get full contract size during the evaluation, and funded limits start lower and grow with the account balance. Updated at end of day (EOD) on the closing balance; if the EOD balance drops below a trigger, the tier can go back down.

Starting funded limits

  • $25,000: 1 mini / 10 micros
  • $50,000: 2 minis / 20 micros
  • $100,000: 3 minis / 30 micros
  • $150,000: 3 minis / 30 micros

Scaling triggers ($25K / $50K / $100K / $150K)

  • +$1,500: 2/20 · 3/30 · 4/40 · 4/40
  • +$2,000: — · 4/40 · 5/50 · 5/50
  • +$3,000: — · — · 8/80 · 8/80
  • +$4,500: — · — · — · 12/120

Flat limits (Standard and Direct)

  • $25,000: 1 mini / 10 micros
  • $50,000: 4 minis / 40 micros
  • $100,000: 8 minis / 80 micros
  • $150,000: 12 minis / 120 micros

1 mini = 10 micros; contracts can be mixed within the limit.

Yes

Scaling unlocked through the Loyalty Program (5 tiers: Starter, Rising Star, Pro, VIP, Legend). Increments depend on tier. Applies to all account types.

Two Steps
No
No
Max Drawdown

Trailing end-of-day (EOD) on all plans. Values per plan and size:

  • Standard $25K / $50K / $100K / $150K: $1,500 / $2,000 / $3,500 / $5,000
  • Reserve $25K / $50K / $100K / $150K: $1,000 / $2,000 / $3,000 / $4,500
  • Express $25K / $50K / $100K / $150K: $1,000 / $2,000 / $2,500 / $3,500
  • Direct $25K / $50K / $100K / $150K: $1,500 / $2,000 / $3,500 / $4,500

Once the trailing drawdown reaches the starting balance, it locks and stops trailing.

On Direct the drawdown becomes static after the account exceeds the initial trail balance or after the first payout request. After any approved payout the drawdown floor locks at starting balance + $100 on every plan.

  • Futures Fast: $1,000 (25K) / $2,000 (50K) / $2,500 (100K), trailing
  • Futures Fast Pro: $2,000 EOD trailing (50K)
  • Futures Instant: 5% EOD trailing
Profit Split

90% on all funded accounts and plans.

A payout delayed beyond the 24-business-hour guarantee adds an extra 10% profit share on that payout.

All futures products: 80%

Daily Drawdown

Soft breach on every plan: open trades are closed automatically and the account is disabled for the rest of the day, then reinstated the next trading day.

  • Standard $25K: none. $50K / $100K / $150K: $1,000 / $2,000 / $3,000
  • Reserve: configurable at checkout. Traders can choose no daily loss limit or a soft DLL of $600 / $1,200 / $1,700 / $3,000 on $25K / $50K / $100K / $150K. The price varies depending on the selected option
  • Express challenge $25K: none. $50K / $100K / $150K: $1,000 / $1,250 / $1,750
  • Express funded $25K / $50K / $100K / $150K: $500 / $1,000 / $1,250 / $1,750
  • Direct $25K / $50K / $100K / $150K: $1,000 / $1,250 / $2,500 / $3,000
  • Futures Fast: none
  • Futures Fast Pro: $1,000 (50K)
  • Futures Instant: 3% from highest day equity
Three Steps
No
No
Max Allocation
150,000

$300,000 combined across all Master Accounts and Instant Models (Forex + Crypto + Futures shared cap). No allocation limit during Challenge phase.

Mandatory buffer
Limited

Standard — Funded Buffer

  • $25,000 → $1,600
  • $50,000 → $2,100
  • $100,000 → $3,600
  • $150,000 → $5,100

Payouts are only available from profits earned above the buffer, and the buffer must stay intact when submitting a request.

Express

  • $25,000 → $1,100
  • $50,000 → $2,100
  • $100,000 → $3,600
  • $150,000 → $5,100

Payouts are only available from profits earned above the buffer.

Reserve

  • No buffer to reach before a payout, but after any withdrawal the drawdown floor locks at starting balance + $100.

Direct

  • No profit buffer requirement.
No

No mandatory buffer. Instead, when you request a payout your maximum trailing drawdown locks at your starting balance.

Minimum Trading Days
  • No minimum trading days on evaluation. Standard can be passed in as little as one trading day
  • Express with the optional 50% consistency add-on can qualify after 2 green days
  • Funded: one trade every 7 days to keep the account active
No data
Funded Phase Pricing Model

No activation

No data
Minimum Profitable Days
  • Standard: no minimum. First payout 3 days after the first trade
  • Reserve: 5 winning days before each payout, with a minimum of $100 / $150 / $200 / $250 profit per day on $25K / $50K / $100K / $150K. Winning days reset after every payout
  • Express: no minimum
  • Direct: no minimum
  • Futures Fast Challenge: 5 profitable days before reward request
  • Futures Fast Pro: 1 profitable day per reward request (50K)
  • Futures Instant: 7 profitable days
Position size scaling
No
No data
Evaluation Phase Pricing Model

One-time fee

No data
Free Trial
No data
No
Merge Accounts
No data
No
Maximum Trading Days
No data

No time limit on any futures account.

Monthly Competition
No data
Yes
Expert Advisor (EA)
No
No

EAs allowed only as decision-support tools (alerts, partial management, predefined rules). Fully autonomous trading bots are prohibited.

VPN
Yes
Yes
Hedging
Yes
No

Cross-account hedging is forbidden.

Requires Stop Loss
No
No
Scalping
Yes

Microscalping (trades held seconds with minimal profit margins) is prohibited. Automated scalping systems that exceed 200 trades per day are not allowed. Exploiting tight brackets or the simulated market's absence of slippage is forbidden.

Yes

Manual scalping allowed with minimum 5-second hold per trade. Tick scalping and HFT forbidden.

Stacking / Layering (DCA)
Yes
Yes
Martingale
Yes
No

Martingale strategies are forbidden.

Maximum Risk Limit
Yes

Max risk-to-reward ratio: 5:1. For every $100 of profit target, your initial stop loss cannot exceed $500. Mental stops are accepted but excessive risk-taking can lead to warnings or payout disqualification. Adjusting stops to add risk goes against policy; only move stops forward to trail and protect profits.

Additional risk guardrails:

  • Trade within 2% of any CME price limit is prohibited.
  • Trading without clear risk management, excessive sizing, inconsistent contract sizes or "all-in" strategies may be considered gambling and lead to account review.
  • Holding a position into the daily 16:10 EST auto-close is fine; the auto-close itself doesn't breach the account.
Yes

Position size capped by contract count per account (see Max Allocation).

Copy Trading
No
No

Outbound copy allowed; inbound copy from external sources forbidden.

News Trading
Yes

Allowed on both challenge and funded accounts, on every plan. Traders can open, manage and close positions during high-impact news. Blue Guardian warns that slippage and spread widening may occur.

Yes

News trading allowed without restrictions on Futures accounts.

Inactivity Rule

At least one trade every 7 days on funded accounts.

  • Futures Fast Challenge: 7 days
  • Futures Fast Master: 14 days
  • Futures Fast Pro Challenge: 7 days / Master: 14 days
  • Futures Instant: 7 days

Days counted from the moment a position is CLOSED, not opened. Minimal 0.01-lot trades to game the rule don't count.

Consistency Rule
Yes

A single trading day cannot equal or exceed:

  • Standard: 40%, on the funded account only
  • Reserve: configurable as 40% (3-day pass) or 50% (2-day pass), on the evaluation only
  • Express: 40% on the evaluation by default; an optional 50% evaluation consistency add-on allows qualification after as few as 2 green days
  • Direct: 20% on the first payout, 25% on the second, 30% from the third onwards

Calculation: Highest Net Profit Day / Total Account PnL. On evaluation accounts, passing is delayed until the ratio complies with the selected threshold. On funded accounts, payouts are blocked until the ratio drops below the applicable threshold. Violating the rule does NOT terminate the account.

Yes
  • Futures Fast Challenge: best day's profit must be < 40% of total accumulated profit. No consistency target on Master.
  • Futures Fast Pro Challenge: same 40% rule.
  • Futures Instant: best day cannot exceed 15% of total profit.
  • Calculation: Best Day Profit / 0.40 = Minimum required total profit.
Hold Weekend
No
Yes

Weekend holds are unrestricted.

Prohibited Strategies
  • Automated scalping systems exceeding 200 trades per day.
  • AI, bots and fully automated trading mechanisms (all account types).
  • Hands-off, continuous day-and-night trading or complete automation.
  • Placing multiple limit orders at the same price to manipulate fills.
  • Strategies aimed at exploiting isolated fills in low-liquidity or gapped markets.
  • Using tight brackets or absence of slippage in the simulated market for favorable fills.
  • Trading during tier 1 economic data releases.
  • Coordinated trading across unconnected accounts (identical or opposing strategies).
  • Microscalping (trades held seconds with minimal margins).
  • Trading within 2% of a CME price limit.
  • Trading without a stop loss, relying on the trailing threshold to close trades.
  • Arbitrage (latency, reverse, statistical)
  • HFT
  • Tick scalping (under 5 seconds)
  • Fully autonomous bots/EAs
  • Cross-account hedging
  • Gambling behaviors
  • Martingale
  • Inbound copy trading and signal services
  • Group/signal trading from Telegram, Discord etc.
Overnight positions
No
No data
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