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How much freedom you get at FTMO Futures and TradeDay

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Time limits

Neither firm allows you to trade at your own pace without financial pressure. Both FTMO Futures and TradeDay operate under a monthly subscription model, meaning that every 30 days you fail to reach the profit target, you are forced to pay again to keep the account active.

FTMO Futures does not have a fixed minimum number of days, but its consistency rules (where your best day cannot exceed 40% or 50% of the total profit) effectively prevent you from passing quickly. You are forced to spread your performance over several sessions. TradeDay’s Quick Pay accounts impose a hard limit of at least 5 trading days, while their Fast Pass accounts remove the minimum day requirement but keep the monthly billing pressure.

Weekends and news

Holding positions over the weekend is strictly prohibited by both firms. However, FTMO Futures is even more restrictive: you cannot hold any position overnight. You are forced to close every trade before the market close, which prevents any swing trading strategy and limits you exclusively to intraday operations.

TradeDay allows overnight holdings but imposes a heavy restriction on news trading. You are forbidden from opening or closing positions 2 minutes before and after Tier 1 economic releases; failing to comply leads to auto-liquidation. In contrast, FTMO Futures allows news trading but prohibits opening positions within 2% of a CME price limit, a technical constraint that can trap you during high volatility.

Where you can trade from

Geography is a major barrier for both. FTMO Futures blocks a massive list of territories, including Australia, China, Indonesia, and several US states (Arkansas, Delaware, Louisiana, Montana, and South Carolina). While they allow VPN use, they restrict access to dozens of developing nations.

TradeDay’s list of excluded countries is also extensive, banning traders from South Africa, Panama, Ecuador, and many others. Unlike FTMO, TradeDay strictly forbids the use of VPNs or VPS to mask your location. If the system detects you are hiding your IP, your account will be closed, limiting your mobility if you travel to restricted areas.

What the platform limits

The technical environment is filled with "no-go" zones. FTMO Futures limits you to a maximum of 3 Sim-Funded accounts simultaneously. It also prohibits any strategy that cannot be replicated in a real market, such as latency arbitrage or high-frequency trading (HFT).

TradeDay limits your trading style through a "microscalping" ban: if positions held for less than 10 seconds dominate your profits, you face disqualification. You are also restricted to a maximum of 200 trades per day. Furthermore, TradeDay does not provide Level 2 (Depth of Market) data for free; you are forced to pay an extra $49 per month if you need to see the order book, and you cannot use any bot or EA purchased from third parties.

What the rules cost you

The financial restrictions do not end with the purchase price. FTMO Futures limits your withdrawals through strict caps: in a $50K Growth account, you can only take home up to $2,500 per payout. Additionally, you are forced to leave 50% of your profit in the account, as you can only withdraw half of what you earned.

TradeDay limits your earnings on Sim accounts with caps ranging from $1,500 to $2,250 depending on the size. In their Quick Pay model, if your gross profit is below $4,000, they take 50% of your earnings, significantly reducing your actual payout. Both firms use trailing drawdowns that follow your peak balance, meaning that as you profit, your "safety buffer" disappears and never moves back down, even if you lose that profit later.

Restrictions that add up

The combined weight of these rules creates a narrow path for the trader. At FTMO Futures, the impossibility of holding positions overnight, combined with the consistency rule and the 50% profit retention requirement, forces you into a cycle of aggressive intraday trading where you can never fully access your total earnings. At TradeDay, the ban on news trading, the prohibition of VPNs, and the extra cost for Level 2 data create a technical bottleneck that penalizes those who rely on external automation or macroeconomic events. In both cases, the trailing drawdown ensures that a single bad day after a winning streak can end your career, regardless of how much "profit" you previously generated.

Frequently asked questions

Which firm is more expensive to start a 50k account, FTMO Futures or TradeDay?

FTMO Futures charges $119 for a 50k Growth account. TradeDay offers two options: Quick Pay for $125 and Fast Pass for $189 (though often discounted to $85). While TradeDay can be cheaper with promotions, FTMO includes Level 1 market data in the price, whereas TradeDay requires an additional $49 monthly fee if you need Level 2 data, which is essential for many futures traders.

Who has stricter withdrawal limits, FTMO Futures or TradeDay?

FTMO Futures is more restrictive regarding how much of your profit you can actually touch, as it only allows you to withdraw 50% of available profit in the Growth model, capped at $2,500 for a 50k account. TradeDay allows you to withdraw more of your percentage (up to 80% or 100% depending on the plan), but its absolute caps on Sim accounts are lower, limiting a 50k Fast Pass account to a maximum of $1,500 per request.

Which firm imposes more trading style restrictions, FTMO Futures or TradeDay?

TradeDay is significantly more restrictive regarding how you trade, as it prohibits news trading (2 minutes before/after), bans VPNs, limits you to 200 trades per day, and disqualifies "microscalping" (trades under 10 seconds). FTMO Futures allows news trading and VPNs but imposes a total ban on overnight holdings, forcing you to be a pure day trader with no flexibility for multi-day positions.

Does FTMO Futures or TradeDay have a tougher consistency rule to pass?

FTMO Futures uses a percentage-based rule where your best day cannot exceed 40% (Growth) or 50% (Pro) of your total profit, which forces you to trade for at least several days. TradeDay uses a similar consistency rule but with different thresholds: 30% for Quick Pay and 45% for Fast Pass. This means TradeDay's Quick Pay is the most restrictive, requiring your profits to be much more evenly distributed to avoid disqualification.

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Headquarters

Praga 1, Calle Purkynova 2121/3, 110 00, Czech Republic

2nd Floor, 412 S. Wells, Chicago, Illinois 60607, United States

CEO

Otakar Suffner

James Thorpe

Country

Czech Republic

United States

Foundation

2015

2020

Banned Countries
Afghanistan, Albania, Angola, Anguilla, Antarctica, Antigua and Barbuda, Australia, Barbados, Belarus, Belize, Bhutan, Bouvet Island, Burkina Faso, Burundi, Cape Verde, Central African Republic, Chad, China, Christmas Island, Cocos (Keeling) Islands, Comoros, Congo (Republic), Cook Islands, Côte d’Ivoire, Cuba, Djibouti, Dominica, Equatorial Guinea, Eritrea, Eswatini, Falkland Islands, Fiji, Gabon, Gambia, Ghana, Grenada, Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, Guyana, Heard and McDonald Islands, Holy See (Vatican City State), Indonesia, Iran, Iraq, Jordan, Kazakhstan, Kenya, Kiribati, Kosovo, Kyrgyzstan, Laos, Lesotho, Liberia, Libya, Malawi, Mali, Marshall Islands, Mauritania, Mayotte, Micronesia, Monaco, Montserrat, Myanmar, Namibia, Nauru, Niger, Niue, North Korea, Papua New Guinea, Russian Federation, Rwanda, Saint Barthélemy, Saint Kitts and Nevis, Saint Lucia, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, Samoa, San Marino, Sao Tome and Principe, Seychelles, Sierra Leone, Solomon Islands, Somalia, South Georgia and South Sandwich Islands, South Sudan, Sri Lanka, Sudan, Suriname, Svalbard and Jan Mayen, Syria, Tajikistan, Timor-Leste, Togo, Tokelau, Tonga, Tunisia, Turkmenistan, Tuvalu, Ukraine, Uzbekistan, Vanuatu, Venezuela, Vietnam, Western Sahara, Yemen, United States — Arkansas, United States — Delaware, United States — Louisiana, United States — Montana, United States — South Carolina
Afghanistan, Albania, Algeria, Angola, Barbados, Belarus, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Botswana, British Virgin Islands, Bulgaria, Burkina Faso, Burundi, Cameroon, Cayman Islands, Central African Republic, Croatia, Cuba, DR Congo, Ecuador, Ethiopia, Ghana, Gibraltar, Guam, Guyana, Haiti, Iceland, Indonesia, Iran, Iraq, Ivory Coast, Jamaica, Jordan, Kosovo, Laos, Lebanon, Liberia, Libya, Mali, Malta, Mauritius, Monaco, Mongolia, Montenegro, Morocco, Mozambique, Myanmar, Namibia, Nepal, Nicaragua, Nigeria, North Korea, North Macedonia, Pakistan, Panama, Papua New Guinea, Philippines, Puerto Rico, Romania, Russia, Senegal, Serbia, Slovenia, Somalia, South Africa, South Sudan, Sri Lanka, Sudan, Syria, Tanzania, Trinidad and Tobago, Tunisia, Uganda, Ukraine, US Virgin Islands, Venezuela, Vietnam, Yemen, Zimbabwe
Assets
Commodities, Indices, Crypto, Forex
Futures
Brokers
Tradovate
Tradovate, Rithmic
Platforms
NinjaTrader, Tradovate, Tradingview
Tradovate, NinjaTrader, Tradingview, Jigsaw, Quantower, Rithmic
Payout Methods
Wise, Revolut, Visa Direct, Mastercard Send
Transfer, Crypto
Live Account
Limited

A small group of consistently profitable traders may be invited to a Live Funded Account at FTMO's discretion. It cannot be requested and additional country restrictions apply.

Yes

Funded Live Access
Up to 5 active Funded Live accounts per trader.
90% profit split on Funded Live.
Clear position scaling rules and structured account transition.

No Activation Fee
TradeDay 2.0 removes the activation fee that existed in the previous model.

Payment Methods
Card, ApplePay, GooglePay, PayPal, Revolut, Skrill, Crypto, Transfer
Card, PayPal
Payout Frequency

On demand once the qualifying-day requirements for the current payout cycle are met.

Day-one payouts on Quick Pay (no buffer). Requests submitted before 17:30 CT processed within 24 hours on business days. No frequency limit.

Maximum Withdrawal

Growth — per payout

  • $50K: up to 50% of available profit, capped at $2,500
  • $100K: up to 50% of available profit, capped at $3,000
  • $150K: up to 50% of available profit, capped at $4,000

Pro — per payout

  • $50K: up to 100% of available profit, capped at $5,000
  • $100K: up to 100% of available profit, capped at $6,000
  • $150K: up to 100% of available profit, capped at $8,000

Fast Pass Funded Sim maximum per request: $1,500 (50K), $1,875 (100K), $2,250 (150K).

Minimum Withdrawal

$20

$250 minimum per payout request.

Other Payout Requirements

At least 50% of every requested payout must come from new profit generated during the current payout cycle. US clients must submit Form W-9 and proof of ownership of an eligible US bank account before their first payout.

No data
Payout Fee
No data
  • US Wire Transfer: Free
  • International Wire Transfer: $15/withdrawal
  • Crypto L1: $2.5/withdrawal + estimated gas fees
  • Crypto L2: Free
Account Reset

Evaluation accounts can be reset to their original conditions without changing the monthly billing date. There is no limit on purchased resets.

Available on current plans. See challenges for reset price.

Add-ons
No
No
Instant
No
No
One Step
Yes
Yes
Account scaling
No
No
Max Drawdown

End-of-day trailing drawdown based on the highest closing balance. It can only move upward and locks permanently once it reaches the initial account balance.

Two drawdown types available, both Trailing Maximum Drawdown:

Intraday TMD
Calculated in real time from unrealized profits during the session.

End of Day TMD
Calculated from realized profits at end of day (16:00 CT close). Follows account growth until frozen at the initial balance.

Funded Sim drawdown type matches the evaluation type purchased.

Profit Split

90%

Quick Pay Funded Sim

  • 80% trader / 20% TradeDay above $4,000 gross profit
  • 50% trader / 50% TradeDay below $4,000 gross profit
  • Split evaluated per account

Fast Pass Funded Sim

  • 80% trader / 20% TradeDay

Funded Live

  • 90% trader / 10% TradeDay
Free Trial
No
No
Daily Drawdown
  • Growth Evaluation: none
  • Growth Sim-Funded: soft limit of $1,000 / $2,000 / $3,000 on 50K / 100K / 150K; positions close and trading pauses until the next day
  • Pro Evaluation and Sim-Funded: hard limit of $1,000 / $1,500 / $2,000 on 50K / 100K / 150K; breach terminates the account
No data
Max Allocation
450,000

Up to 10 Evaluation accounts and 5 Funded Sim accounts simultaneously per trader. Up to 5 active Funded Live accounts per trader. Multiple Funded Sim accounts allowed. Single-member US LLC allowed. Multi-member LLC, S-corps and C-corps not allowed.

Mandatory buffer
Limited

Growth allows withdrawing up to 50% of available profit per cycle, leaving the remainder in the account. Pro allows up to 100%, subject to its payout cap.

No
Maximum Accounts

Unlimited concurrent Evaluations. Maximum 3 concurrent Sim-Funded Accounts across Growth and Pro.

No data
Merge Accounts
No
No
Maximum Trading Days

Unlimited while the monthly subscription remains active.

Unlimited

Minimum Trading Days

No fixed minimum. The Evaluation must satisfy its consistency rule, which can require multiple trading days.

  • Quick Pay: 5 trading days minimum (non-consecutive).
  • Fast Pass: no minimum trading days.
Funded Phase Pricing Model

No activation fee and no recurring charge on Sim-Funded or Live Funded Accounts.

No activation fee on TradeDay 2.0.

Minimum Profitable Days

Growth payout eligibility

  • $50K: 4 days with at least $150 closed profit per day
  • $100K: 4 days with at least $250 closed profit per day
  • $150K: 4 days with at least $300 closed profit per day

Pro payout eligibility

  • $50K: 5 days with at least $200 closed profit per day
  • $100K: 5 days with at least $300 closed profit per day
  • $150K: 5 days with at least $500 closed profit per day

Fast Pass Funded Sim: 5 profitable days per payout; $150/$200/$250 minimum daily profit on 50K/100K/150K.

Position size scaling
Yes

Sim-Funded Accounts start with 2, 4 or 6 mini contracts on the 50K, 100K and 150K sizes. The limit scales with end-of-day profit up to 5, 10 or 15 minis respectively. Ten micros count as one mini.

Yes

Fast Pass Funded Sim starts at 2/3/4 contracts for 50K/100K/150K, then adds one contract per $2,000 of EOD profit. Quick Pay limits are fixed by account size.

Evaluation Phase Pricing Model

Monthly subscription. Market data is included and there is no activation fee. After a hard breach, the trader can buy a reset or wait for the next renewal to receive a fresh Evaluation.

Monthly subscription. See challenges for current list prices and promotions for active discounts.

Expert Advisor (EA)
Yes

Algorithmic trading and EAs are allowed, but manipulative automation, high-frequency strategies and latency arbitrage are prohibited. Third-party EAs can cause duplicated-strategy issues.

Yes

Allowed if using supported platforms: NinjaTrader, Tradovate, Tradingview, Jigsaw, Quantower. TradeDay does NOT expose Tradovate API. Own systems allowed (NOT purchased from third parties). If multiple users make same trades: All accounts closed.

VPN
Yes

VPN and VPS use is allowed if the trader remains the sole controller of the account and does not reside in a restricted country.

No
Hedging
Limited

Opposing positions may be used within one account. Hedging or offsetting directional risk across different accounts, providers or people is prohibited.

No
Requires Stop Loss
No
No
Scalping
Yes

Scalping is allowed when it reflects legitimate market trading. High-frequency and latency-arbitrage strategies are prohibited.

Yes

Scalping allowed EXCEPT: High-frequency ATS, >200 trades per day, trades in few seconds for 1-2 ticks, playing with sim matching engine.

Maximum Risk Limit
Limited

No fixed percentage is published, but overleveraging, one-sided bets and materially inconsistent position sizing can lead to account action or termination.

No data
Copy Trading
Limited

Copying between accounts owned by the same trader is allowed. Copying signals or decisions from another trader or third party is prohibited.

Yes

Allowed from a trader's own account into their TradeDay account, and between two of the trader's own TradeDay Funded Sim accounts. NOT allowed between Funded Live and Funded Sim, and NOT allowed between two different users. Compatible third-party tools: Tradesyncer (TDTC), Flowbots (tradeday), Expert Trading Programmers (TradeDay25OFF).

News Trading
Yes
No
Inactivity Rule

Sim-Funded Accounts receive a warning after 30 consecutive inactive days and close after a further 30 inactive days. Live Funded Accounts have no inactivity rule.

TradeDay does not charge inactivity fees. However, Tradovate archives the account after 1 month without login.

Consistency Rule
Limited
  • Growth Evaluation: the best day cannot exceed 40% of total profit
  • Pro Evaluation: the best day cannot exceed 50% of total profit
  • Sim-Funded: no consistency rule
Yes

Quick Pay: 30% consistency in evaluation. Fast Pass: 45% consistency in evaluation and Funded Sim. Funded Live has no consistency rule.

Hold Weekend
No
No
Prohibited Strategies

Exploiting platform or data-feed errors; relying on drawdown protection as the sole exit; offsetting risk across accounts; copying third-party trades; manipulative automation, HFT or latency arbitrage; opening positions within 2% of a CME price limit; holding positions or resting orders after market close; overleveraging, account rolling, spoofing, layering, wash trading or other behaviour that cannot be replicated in a live futures market.

  • Using bots/ATS purchased from third parties
  • Systems generating >200 trades in a day
  • Strategies trading in few seconds to capture only a few ticks
  • Attempting to capture queue position advantage by playing with sim engine
  • Spoofing and layering (per CME Group rules)
  • Order splitting (multiple limit orders at same price simultaneously)
  • Trading in illiquid markets to benefit from missed fills
  • Exploiting lack of slippage in simulation (e.g., bracket orders in data releases)
  • Trading outside best bid/offer
  • Using external or slow data feed
  • High-frequency trading or short-term trading
  • Simultaneous opposite positions between accounts
  • Multiple registrations with different names/emails
  • Using VPN or VPS to mask location
  • Hedging: Prohibited (trading long in one account and short in another for same product)
  • Trading within 2% of price limit (Funded Live only, loss of account)
  • Microscalping (positions held <5-10 seconds dominating profit)
  • Trading Tier 1 news/data releases (2 min before/after, auto-liquidation)
Overnight positions
No
Yes
Stacking / Layering (DCA)
No data
Yes
Martingale
No data
No
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