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Funded Futures Family vs The5ers Futures at a glance

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The short answer

Funded Futures Family (FFF) is the choice for traders seeking the highest profit split (90%) and platform flexibility (NinjaTrader/TradingView), but it operates mostly on a monthly subscription model. The5ers Futures offers a simpler "pay once" evaluation with no recurring fees, though it locks you into the BlackArrow platform and an 80% profit split.

Where they actually differ

  • Platforms (Tech): FFF allows you to trade via Tradovate, NinjaTrader, and TradingView. The5ers is strictly limited to the BlackArrow platform.
  • Price: FFF uses monthly subscriptions for its evaluation phases (except for S2F and Base plans). The5ers uses a one-time evaluation fee with no recurring costs.
  • Payouts (Cobro): FFF offers a 90% profit split and fast payout cycles (every 3 to 7 trading days depending on the plan). The5ers offers a fixed 80% split and payouts every 14 days.
  • Risk (Riesgo): FFF requires a mandatory "buffer" (drawdown level + $100) that must remain in the account to withdraw. The5ers does not use a buffer but requires a minimum 4% profit over the initial balance to request any payout.
  • Styles: FFF prohibits "micro-scalping" (trades must last over 20 seconds for 50% of profits). The5ers allows scalping but prohibits all forms of algorithmic or high-frequency trading.
  • Withdrawal Caps: FFF has specific dollar-amount caps per request on most plans (e.g., $1,000–$4,000). The5ers caps withdrawals at 3% of the balance for their 100K and 150K accounts.

Where they are basically the same

  • Price (Funded Phase): Neither firm charges a monthly subscription fee once the account is funded.
  • Styles: Both allow news trading but strictly prohibit holding positions over the weekend.
  • Rules: Both prohibit the use of EAs, bots, and algorithmic trading.
  • Risk: Both utilize End-of-Day (EOD) trailing drawdowns as their primary risk metric for most evaluation plans.

Pick this one if

  • Funded Futures Family: You want to trade on TradingView or NinjaTrader and want the industry-high 90% profit split.
  • The5ers Futures: You want a straightforward "one-time fee" evaluation and prefer a firm with a longer institutional track record (founded 2016).

Frequently asked questions

Which firm is cheaper to start an evaluation, Funded Futures Family or The5ers?

The5ers is generally cheaper for long-term evaluations because it uses a one-time fee (e.g., $100 for a 50K account). While FFF has low entry points, most of its plans (like the $125 50K Velocity) are monthly subscriptions, meaning the cost doubles if you do not pass within the first 30 days.

Who offers a higher profit split, Funded Futures Family or The5ers?

Funded Futures Family offers a higher profit split at 90% for its simulated funded accounts. The5ers maintains a fixed 80% profit split for the trader across all its futures programs.

Which firm allows more platform choices, Funded Futures Family or The5ers?

Funded Futures Family is much more flexible, supporting NinjaTrader, Tradovate, TradingView, and WealthCharts. The5ers requires all traders to use their proprietary BlackArrow platform, with no external connections allowed.

Which firm pays out faster, Funded Futures Family or The5ers?

Funded Futures Family pays out faster, with some plans (Prime/Velocity) allowing withdrawal requests every 3 trading days. The5ers requires a minimum of 14 days between the account start and the first payout, and 14 days between subsequent withdrawals.

Field by field

Funded Futures Family and The5ers Futures, side by side

Rules, plans, platforms, leverage, commissions and payouts of both, with the option to see only what differs.

Head to head

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Headquarters

28780 Single Oak Dr, 325, Temecula, California 92590, US

14 Haroshet st, Raanaa, Israel

CEO

Manuel Meraz

Saul Lokier

Country

United States

Israel

Foundation

2024

2016

Banned Countries
Afghanistan, Central African Republic, Congo (Brazzaville), Cuba, Democratic People's Republic of Korea (North Korea), Democratic Republic of the Congo, Guinea, Guam, Haiti, Iran, Iraq, Libya, Mali, Puerto Rico, Russian Federation, Somalia, South Sudan, Sudan, Syria, Ukraine, United States Virgin Islands, Venezuela, Yemen, Ethiopia, Mauritius, Mongolia, Montenegro, Papua New Guinea, Sri Lanka, Trinidad and Tobago, Tunisia, Uganda, Vietnam, Zimbabwe
Afghanistan, Belarus, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Burundi, Central African Republic, Cuba, Congo Republic, Crimea, Democratic Republic of Congo, Donetsk, Eritrea, Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, Iraq, Iran, Israel, Kherson, Laos, Lebanon, Liberia, Libya, Luhansk, Myanmar, North Korea, Palestinian Territory, Papua New Guinea, Russia, South Sudan, Sudan, Somalia, Syria, Vanuatu, Venezuela, Yemen, Zaporizhzhia
Assets
Indices, Commodities
Indices, Currencies, Metals, Agriculture, Energies
Brokers
Tradovate, Rithmic, NinjaTrader
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Payout Fee
No data

3.5% for Rise, cryptocurrencies and bank transfers. No fee when the payout is converted into Hub Credits.

Platforms
Tradovate, NinjaTrader, Tradingview, WealthCharts
BlackArrow
Payout Methods
Transfer, Crypto, Rise
Rise, Crypto, Transfer
Live Account
Yes

Professional Stage accounts use real capital. Pro environment runs on Tradovate; Live Market Execution environment runs on Rithmic.

No

The5ers states that all activity is conducted in a simulated trading environment.

Payment Methods
Card, Crypto, PayPal
Card, PayPal, Crypto
Payout Frequency

Simulated Funded Accounts

  • Prime: Every 3 trading days
  • Classic: Every 7 trading days
  • Premier / Elite: Every 5 trading days
  • Velocity Standard: Every 3 trading days
  • Velocity Daily Payout Add-On: Daily (1x per day)
  • S2F Accelerate: Eligible for payout after 5 trading days

Professional Stage Accounts

  • Daily withdrawal requests permitted.

S2F Sniper / Accelerate / Payday

  • Sniper 25K: daily payouts once eligible.
  • Accelerate 25K: 5 qualifying days per payout.
  • Payday 50K: 7 qualifying days per payout.

Choice

  • Daily Pay: once per trading day, after the 2 p.m. PT close.
  • Weekly Pay: after every 5 winning days.

First payout after 14 days; subsequent payouts every 14 days after the last approved withdrawal.

Payout Guarantee
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Approved withdrawals are normally processed within 3 business days.

Maximum Withdrawal

Simulated Funded Accounts: Max Payout Per Request

  • Prime: Payout 1 ($1,000-$3,500), Payout 2+ ($1,500-$4,000)
  • Classic: Payout 1 ($1,750-$3,000), Payout 2+ ($2,000-$6,000)
  • Premier / Elite: Payout 1 ($1,750-$3,000), Payout 2+ ($2,000-$6,500)
  • Velocity Standard: $750-$3,250 per request
  • Velocity Daily Payout Add-On: $600-$2,500 per request
  • S2F Accelerate 50K: $500 per payout for new purchases; earlier purchases keep $1,250 / $1,250 / $1,500 from payout 3

Professional Stage Accounts

  • No maximum withdrawal amount, limited only by available profits above the required buffer.

S2F Sniper / Accelerate / Payday

  • Sniper 25K: payouts 1-2 up to $500 each; payout 3 onward up to $1,000 each.
  • Accelerate 25K: up to $500 per payout.
  • Payday 50K: payouts 1-2 up to $1,000 each; payout 3 onward up to $1,250 each.

Choice

  • Daily Pay: $400 / $750 / $1,250 / $1,750 per request (25K / 50K / 100K / 150K), never above the profit over the cushion.
  • Weekly Pay: 50% of total profit, capped at $1,250 / $2,500 / $3,500 / $4,500 per payout.

25K: $1,250. 50K: payouts 1–4 are capped at $1,500 / $2,000 / $2,500 / $3,000; later payouts remain capped at $3,000. 100K and 150K: 3% of the current balance.

Minimum Withdrawal
  • Choice Weekly Pay: $500.
  • Other plans: $250.

A payout can be requested after reaching at least 4% profit over the initial account balance.

Other Payout Requirements

S2F Sniper / Accelerate / Payday

  • Sniper 25K: $2,500 profit required between payouts.
  • Payday 50K: $3,000 profit required between payouts.

S2F Accelerate

  • For purchases on or after October 22, 2026, each payout requires the profit target shown in the challenge. It resets after each payout; carried-over profit does not count. Earlier purchases are exempt from this added target. All other payout requirements still apply.
  • 50K, new purchases: at least 3 payouts before moving to live; no early move to live.

Choice

  • Daily Pay or Weekly Pay is chosen when activating the funded account and stays with that account.
  • After the first payout, at least $1 of net profit since the last payout.

The funded account must be at least 14 days old and have reached at least 4% profit. The 14-day cycle restarts after scaling.

Commission

Commission depends on the trading platform used

  • NinjaTrader: standard NinjaTrader/CME exchange and clearing fees apply. Check NinjaTrader's commission schedule for exact rates per contract.
  • Tradovate: standard Tradovate platform and exchange fees apply. See Tradovate's pricing page for per-contract rates.
  • TradingView (via Tradovate): fees are determined by the connected broker (Tradovate). Refer to Tradovate for exact rates.
  • WealthCharts: standard exchange and clearing fees apply. Verify with WealthCharts for specific per-contract pricing.

Standard futures: $5 per side. Micro futures: $2.50 per side.

Account Reset

Evaluation Accounts

  • Unlimited resets at discounted fees. Fees vary by plan and account size.

Simulated Funded Accounts

  • Maximum of 3 resets per funded account.
    S2F Sniper, S2F Accelerate (including existing accounts) and S2F Payday cannot be reset.
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Add-ons
Yes

Daily Payout Add-On available for Velocity Plan: enables daily payout requests (1x per day) with no consistency rule and no minimum trading day requirement.
Velocity EOD Drawdown Add-On: evaluation only. Fees: 25K $30; 50K $50; 100K $80; 150K $110. Funded drawdown remains intraday.
Choice 50% Consistency Add-On: evaluation only, +20% on the evaluation price. Consistency goes from 40% to 50%, allowing a 2-day pass.

No data
Instant
Yes

Core: S2F Payday and S2F Accelerate 50K. Labs, invite only: S2F Sniper and S2F Accelerate 25K.

No
One Step
Yes
Yes
Account scaling
Yes

Scaling plan applies to Simulated Funded and Professional Stage accounts. In Sim Funded, position size increases with realized profit (end-of-day). In Professional Stage, scaling is decided case-by-case by the Live Desk based on EOD realized results.
Sniper 25K and Accelerate 25K have fixed position limits and no scaling plan. Payday 50K has a scaling plan.
Choice has fixed position limits, the same as in the evaluation, and no scaling plan.

Yes

At every approved 10% profit milestone, buying power increases by 5%, up to $500,000.

Max Drawdown

Evaluation Phase

  • Prime / Classic / Premier EOD: End-of-Day trailing drawdown based on realized gains.
  • Elite / Premier Intraday: Intraday trailing drawdown based on unrealized gains.
  • S2F Accelerate: Intraday trailing drawdown with no ceiling.
  • Velocity: Intraday trailing drawdown; optional EOD drawdown during evaluation.
  • Choice: End-of-Day trailing drawdown.

Simulated Funded Phase

  • Velocity: Intraday trailing drawdown, including accounts with the evaluation EOD Add-On.
  • End-of-Day drawdown on all plans except Velocity and S2F Accelerate. Except for Sniper 25K, once an End-of-Day account reaches the buffer zone (e.g., $52,000 for $50K account), the drawdown becomes static at the initial balance.
  • S2F Accelerate: Intraday trailing drawdown with no ceiling.

Professional Stage

  • End-of-Position (EoP) drawdown: adjusts only when a position is closed in profit. Drawdown locks at a static threshold once fully recovered (e.g., $50,100 for $50K account).

S2F Sniper / Accelerate / Payday

  • Sniper 25K: EOD trailing drawdown that never locks.
  • Accelerate 25K: intraday trailing drawdown that never locks.
  • Payday 50K: EOD trailing drawdown locks at the initial balance once the EOD balance reaches the initial balance plus the maximum drawdown.

Choice funded

  • End-of-Day trailing drawdown. Locks at the starting balance + $100 once the highest close reaches the starting balance + drawdown + $100, or at the first payout.
  • Daily Pay on 100K / 150K: $2,500 / $3,500 drawdown, tighter than the evaluation. Weekly Pay keeps the evaluation drawdown.

4% EOD trailing drawdown, calculated from the highest midnight balance or equity. After a payout, it resets to 4% below the new balance.

Profit Split

Simulated Funded Accounts

  • 90% trader / 10% firm

Professional Stage Accounts

  • 80% trader / 20% firm

80% for the trader across all funded accounts.

Free Trial
No
No data
Daily Drawdown

Evaluation & Simulated Funded Accounts

  • Except for Payday 50K and Choice Daily Pay, no explicit daily loss limit (DLL) during evaluation or simulated funded phase. However, the 2% CME price limit rule applies.

Professional Stage Accounts

  • Daily Loss Limit (DLL) applies and is tied to the current scaling tier.

S2F Sniper / Accelerate / Payday

  • Sniper 25K and Accelerate 25K: no daily loss limit.
  • Payday 50K: a daily loss limit applies; exceeding it is a hard breach. The amount is shown in the challenge catalogue.

Choice

  • Evaluation and Weekly Pay: no daily loss limit.
  • Daily Pay: $500 / $1,000 / $1,250 / $1,750 (25K / 50K / 100K / 150K). First hit stops trading for the day; second hit closes the account. Strikes never reset.
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Max Allocation

Up to 4 Simm Funded Accounts
Choice: up to 5 funded accounts.

500,000
Mandatory buffer
Limited

Classic / Premier / Elite / Velocity: Buffer Required

  • A buffer must be maintained at all times. The account balance cannot drop below the buffer level after withdrawal. The buffer equals the drawdown level + $100.

Premier Plus (accounts purchased after 4/7/26)

  • No buffer requirement. Net profit rule applies: account must have at least $1 more than the balance requested previously.

Accelerate 25K

  • $1,100 payout buffer; only profits above this buffer can be requested.

Accelerate 50K (new purchases)

  • $2,100 protected buffer. It is part of the first payout's $2,600 profit requirement, not added on top.

Choice

  • Daily Pay: payout cushion of $1,100 / $2,100 / $3,100 / $4,600 in retained profit (25K / 50K / 100K / 150K); only profit above it can be requested.
  • Weekly Pay: no cushion.
No
Merge Accounts
No
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Maximum Trading Days

No time limit. Traders can take as long as needed to meet the profit target.

No time limit. At least one trade must be placed every 14 days.

Minimum Trading Days
  • Classic Evaluation: Minimum 2 trading days to pass.
  • Prime: Minimum 1 trading day to pass. Standard and Max differ only in position limits and price.
  • Premier: Choose a 1-Day Pass or 2-Day Pass at checkout. The selected minimum applies to the evaluation.
  • Elite: Minimum 1 trading day to pass.
  • Velocity: Minimum 3 trading days to pass; no minimum with the Daily Payout Add-On.
  • Funded payouts: 7 qualifying trading days ($200+ profit) for Classic / Premier / Elite. 3 qualifying days for Prime. 5 qualifying days for Premier Plus accounts purchased after April 7, 2026.
  • Sniper 25K, Accelerate 25K and Payday 50K bypass evaluation. Their funded payout day requirements are listed under minimum profitable days.
  • Choice: minimum 3 trading days to pass due to the 40% consistency rule; 2 days with the 50% Consistency Add-On.

The evaluation can be passed in one trading day while respecting the consistency rule.

Funded Phase Pricing Model

No subscription fee on funded accounts. No activation fee on Prime, Premier, Velocity and Choice. Classic has an activation fee.
Sniper 25K, Accelerate 25K and Payday 50K use a one-time purchase fee with no activation or recurring funded fee.

No monthly fee. The current program catalogue shows no activation fee.

Minimum Profitable Days

Payout Requirements (Simulated Funded)

  • Except for plans without a qualifying-day requirement, each payout cycle requires a minimum number of qualifying trading days with at least $200 realized profit per day.
  • Classic / Premier / Elite: 7 qualifying days per payout.
  • Prime: 3 qualifying days per payout.
  • Premier Plus (after 4/7/26): 5 qualifying days per payout.
  • Velocity: 3 qualifying days per payout, each with at least $200 profit; no qualifying-day minimum with the Daily Payout Add-On.
  • S2F Accelerate 50K: 5 qualifying days per payout, each with at least $200 profit.

Professional Stage

  • A Qualified Trading Day is defined as a day with at least $200 in realized profit, used to determine withdrawal stage eligibility.

S2F Sniper / Accelerate / Payday

  • Sniper 25K: no qualifying-day minimum; payout profit requirements still apply.
  • Accelerate 25K: 5 qualifying days per payout, each with at least $200 profit.
  • Payday 50K: 7 qualifying days per payout, each with at least $200 profit.

Choice

  • Weekly Pay: 5 winning days per payout, each with at least $200 profit.
  • Daily Pay: no winning-day requirement.
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Position size scaling
Yes

Scaling applies to Simulated Funded accounts based on end-of-day realized profit. Position size increases progressively as profit thresholds are met. S2F Accelerate does not use a scaling plan.

Premier Plus Simulated Funded

  • Accounts purchased before September 9, 2026 use the legacy scaling plan, with maximums of 3 minis / 30 micros on 25K, 5 / 50 on 50K, 10 / 100 on 100K and 15 / 150 on 150K.
  • Accounts purchased from September 9, 2026 have fixed maximums of 2 minis / 20 micros on 25K, 4 / 40 on 50K, 6 / 60 on 100K and 10 / 100 on 150K.

S2F Sniper / Accelerate / Payday

  • Sniper 25K and Accelerate 25K: no position size scaling.
  • Payday 50K: position size scaling applies.
Yes

Every approved 10% profit milestone adds 1 mini and 10 micro contracts.

Evaluation Phase Pricing Model

Monthly subscription for Prime, Premier (Intraday and EOD), Velocity, Choice and Classic.

One-time evaluation fee with no monthly subscription.

Expert Advisor (EA)
No
No

Algorithmic and high-frequency trading are prohibited.

VPN
Yes

VPNs and VPSs are allowed for trading activities on the trading platform. They must not be used to access or log in to the FFF account dashboard. Use is at the trader's own discretion and risk.

Yes
Hedging
No
No
Requires Stop Loss
No
No
Scalping
Yes
Yes
Stacking / Layering (DCA)
No
Yes
Martingale
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Yes
Maximum Risk Limit
No
No data
Copy Trading
No
Limited

Only between the trader's own 25K and 50K accounts, with a combined maximum allocation of $75,000.

News Trading
Yes
Yes
Inactivity Rule

At least 1 trade per week (Monday-Friday) lasting minimum 10 seconds is required per account. Accounts idle for 2 consecutive weeks are marked inactive and automatically closed without restoration.

Yes

At least one trade must be placed every 14 days.

Consistency Rule
Limited

Classic Evaluation

  • 50% consistency rule applies: no more than 50% of the total profit target can be achieved in a single day.

Simulated Funded Accounts (Classic / Premier / Elite / Velocity: before 4/7/26)

  • Payouts 1-3: 40% maximum per trading day
  • Payouts 4-5: 45% maximum per trading day
  • Payouts 6+: 50% maximum per trading day

S2F Accelerate

  • 25K / 50K: purchases before October 22, 2026 retain 25% lifetime consistency. Purchases on or after that date: payout 1, 20%; payout 2, 25%; payout 3 onward, 30%.

Prime Simulated Funded

  • 40% consistency per payout cycle; resets after a payout.

Premier Plus Simulated Funded

  • Accounts purchased before September 9, 2026: no consistency rule.
  • Accounts purchased from September 9, 2026: 40% consistency rule.
  • Promotional giveaway accounts: 40% consistency rule.

Professional Stage

  • No consistency rule.

S2F Sniper / Accelerate / Payday

  • Sniper 25K: no consistency rule.
  • Payday 50K: 40% consistency requirement.

Velocity

  • Evaluation and Simulated Funded: 40% lifetime consistency. No consistency rule with the Daily Payout Add-On.

Premier+ Evaluation

  • No consistency rule on FastPass or Standard evaluations.

Choice

  • Evaluation: 40% consistency; 50% with the add-on.
  • Funded (Daily Pay and Weekly Pay): no consistency rule.
Yes

40% per-position consistency rule during evaluation and funded stages. It is calculated using accumulated profitable trades; losing trades are not deducted.

Hold Weekend
No
No
Prohibited Strategies
  • Bots / algorithmic trading
  • Hedging
  • Trading within 2% of CME price limits
  • Straddles / strangles exploiting news volatility
  • Excessive Dollar Cost Averaging (DCA) into losing positions
  • Micro-scalping: over 50% of trades and over 50% of profits must come from positions held longer than 20 seconds
  • Unauthorized group trading / signal services

High-frequency trading, algorithmic trading and hedging.

Overnight positions
Yes

Overnight trading is allowed. All positions must be closed by 4:15 PM EST daily (automatic close if not closed manually). Trading resumes at 6:00 PM EST. Weekend trading is not permitted; all positions must be closed before Friday 4:15 PM EST.

Limited

Day Trade does not allow overnight positions. Swing allows limited overnight exposure: 1 mini/10 micros on 25K and 50K, 2/20 on 100K and 3/30 on 150K.

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