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How much freedom you get at Funded Futures Family and TradeDay

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Time limits

Neither firm allows you to escape the pressure of time entirely, though they lack a hard expiration date for evaluations. At Funded Futures Family (FFF), you cannot pass an evaluation in a single day on most plans; you are forced to trade for at least 2 days on Classic or choose specific "1-Day" passes that cost more. Once funded, you cannot simply withdraw your first profit: you are blocked by a requirement of 3 to 7 qualifying trading days where you must realize at least $200 in profit.

TradeDay imposes similar friction. On their Quick Pay accounts, you cannot pass the evaluation in less than 5 non-consecutive trading days. When you reach the Funded Sim stage, you cannot request a payout whenever you like; you must first accumulate 5 profitable days with minimum gains ranging from $150 to $250 depending on the account size.

Weekends and news

You cannot leave your capital exposed to the market during the weekend at either firm; all positions must be closed before the Friday session ends.

  • Funded Futures Family does not explicitly ban news trading, but they limit your freedom through the CME 2% price limit rule. You cannot trade if a contract is within 2% of its price limit, effectively forcing you out of the market during high-volatility events.
  • TradeDay is more restrictive regarding economic data. You cannot trade Tier 1 news releases; you are prohibited from being in the market 2 minutes before and 2 minutes after the announcement. Violating this leads to auto-liquidation.

Where you can trade from

Geography is a significant barrier for both firms. You cannot access their services if you reside in sanctioned countries like North Korea, Iran, Syria, or Venezuela.

  • Funded Futures Family prohibits users from approximately 35 countries. While they allow VPNs for trading on the platform, you cannot use them to access your account dashboard.
  • TradeDay has a much longer list of exclusions, banning traders from over 70 jurisdictions including South Africa, Pakistan, and several European countries like Romania or Bulgaria. Crucially, you cannot use a VPN or VPS to mask your location; doing so is a breach of their terms.

What the platform limits

The technical environment at both firms restricts how you can express your strategy.

  • At Funded Futures Family, you cannot use any form of automated trading, bots, or algorithms. You are also barred from micro-scalping: you cannot have more than 50% of your trades or profits coming from positions held for less than 20 seconds. Hedging and stacking are also prohibited.
  • TradeDay allows some automation, but you cannot use bots or ATS purchased from third parties; they must be your own creation. You cannot engage in high-frequency trading (over 200 trades a day) or scalp for just a few seconds to capture 1-2 ticks. Unlike FFF, TradeDay allows copy trading between your own accounts but limits it strictly to your own identity.

What the rules cost you

The price of entry is the first limit on your attempts. Funded Futures Family forces you to pay monthly subscriptions for most plans, and you cannot avoid activation fees on their Classic and Base plans. Furthermore, you cannot withdraw all your profits; you must maintain a "buffer" (drawdown level + $100) at all times, meaning your first few thousand dollars are effectively trapped in the account.

TradeDay also relies on monthly subscriptions. While they have removed activation fees in version 2.0, they limit your early earnings through the profit split. On Quick Pay accounts, you cannot keep more than 50% of the profits until you have reached $4,000 in gross gains. Additionally, you cannot withdraw more than $1,500 to $2,250 per request on Fast Pass accounts, capping your liquidity.

Restrictions that add up

The combined effect of these rules creates a narrow path to success. At Funded Futures Family, the combination of the 40% consistency rule, the mandatory profit buffer, and the Qualifying Trading Day requirement means you cannot simply have one "lucky day" and get paid; the firm forces you to prove high-level performance over weeks while keeping a portion of your money hostage.

At TradeDay, the restriction on news trading combined with the prohibition of VPNs and the requirement for specific "profitable days" (not just trading days) creates a rigid environment. You cannot be a news-driven trader, and you cannot trade from a restricted location even with technical workarounds, forcing a level of transparency and specific style that limits many retail strategies.

Frequently asked questions

Which firm is more restrictive regarding news trading, Funded Futures Family or TradeDay?

TradeDay is significantly more restrictive because it strictly prohibits trading Tier 1 news releases 2 minutes before and after the event, whereas Funded Futures Family allows news trading as long as the market doesn't hit the CME 2% price limit.

Which firm has a higher barrier for withdrawals, Funded Futures Family or TradeDay?

Funded Futures Family has a higher barrier because it requires you to maintain a mandatory buffer (drawdown + $100) that you cannot withdraw, and you must complete 3 to 7 qualifying days with at least $200 profit. TradeDay allows withdrawals from day one on Quick Pay (no buffer), though it takes a larger 50% cut of profits until you reach $4,000 in gains.

Between Funded Futures Family and TradeDay, which one bans more countries?

TradeDay is much more restrictive geographically, banning traders from over 70 countries, including places like South Africa, Pakistan, and several Eastern European nations. Funded Futures Family has a shorter list of approximately 35 banned countries.

Which firm limits the use of automated trading more, Funded Futures Family or TradeDay?

Funded Futures Family is more restrictive as it completely prohibits all bots and algorithmic trading. TradeDay allows automated systems as long as they are developed by the trader and not purchased from third parties, though it still bans high-frequency strategies with more than 200 trades per day.

Field by field

Funded Futures Family and TradeDay, side by side

Rules, plans, platforms, leverage, commissions and payouts of both, with the option to see only what differs.

Head to head

43 differences

Headquarters

28780 Single Oak Dr, 325, Temecula, California 92590, US

2nd Floor, 412 S. Wells, Chicago, Illinois 60607, United States

CEO

Manuel Meraz

James Thorpe

Country

United States

United States

Foundation

2024

2020

Banned Countries
Afghanistan, Central African Republic, Congo (Brazzaville), Cuba, Democratic People's Republic of Korea (North Korea), Democratic Republic of the Congo, Guinea, Guam, Haiti, Iran, Iraq, Libya, Mali, Puerto Rico, Russian Federation, Somalia, South Sudan, Sudan, Syria, Ukraine, United States Virgin Islands, Venezuela, Yemen, Ethiopia, Mauritius, Mongolia, Montenegro, Papua New Guinea, Sri Lanka, Trinidad and Tobago, Tunisia, Uganda, Vietnam, Zimbabwe
Afghanistan, Albania, Algeria, Angola, Barbados, Belarus, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Botswana, British Virgin Islands, Bulgaria, Burkina Faso, Burundi, Cameroon, Cayman Islands, Central African Republic, Croatia, Cuba, DR Congo, Ecuador, Ethiopia, Ghana, Gibraltar, Guam, Guyana, Haiti, Iceland, Indonesia, Iran, Iraq, Ivory Coast, Jamaica, Jordan, Kosovo, Laos, Lebanon, Liberia, Libya, Mali, Malta, Mauritius, Monaco, Mongolia, Montenegro, Morocco, Mozambique, Myanmar, Namibia, Nepal, Nicaragua, Nigeria, North Korea, North Macedonia, Pakistan, Panama, Papua New Guinea, Philippines, Puerto Rico, Romania, Russia, Senegal, Serbia, Slovenia, Somalia, South Africa, South Sudan, Sri Lanka, Sudan, Syria, Tanzania, Trinidad and Tobago, Tunisia, Uganda, Ukraine, US Virgin Islands, Venezuela, Vietnam, Yemen, Zimbabwe
Assets
Indices, Commodities
Futures
Brokers
Tradovate, Rithmic, NinjaTrader
Tradovate, Rithmic
Payout Fee
No data
  • US Wire Transfer: Free
  • International Wire Transfer: $15/withdrawal
  • Crypto L1: $2.5/withdrawal + estimated gas fees
  • Crypto L2: Free
Platforms
Tradovate, NinjaTrader, Tradingview, WealthCharts
Tradovate, NinjaTrader, Tradingview, Jigsaw, Quantower, Rithmic
Payout Methods
Transfer, Crypto, Rise
Transfer, Crypto
Live Account
Yes

Professional Stage accounts use real capital. Pro environment runs on Tradovate; Live Market Execution environment runs on Rithmic.

Yes

Funded Live Access
Up to 5 active Funded Live accounts per trader.
90% profit split on Funded Live.
Clear position scaling rules and structured account transition.

No Activation Fee
TradeDay 2.0 removes the activation fee that existed in the previous model.

Payment Methods
Card, Crypto, PayPal
Card, PayPal
Payout Frequency

Simulated Funded Accounts

  • Prime: Every 3 trading days
  • Classic: Every 7 trading days
  • Premier / Elite: Every 5 trading days
  • Velocity Standard: Every 3 trading days
  • Velocity Daily Payout Add-On: Daily (1x per day)
  • Straight To Funded (S2F): Every 7 trading days
  • S2F Accelerate: Eligible for payout after 5 trading days
  • Base Plan: Daily (1x per trading day)

Professional Stage Accounts

  • Daily withdrawal requests permitted.

Lab Plans

  • Lab Sniper 25K: daily payouts once eligible.
  • Lab Accelerate 25K: 5 qualifying days per payout.
  • Lab Payday 50K: 7 qualifying days per payout.

Day-one payouts on Quick Pay (no buffer). Requests submitted before 17:30 CT processed within 24 hours on business days. No frequency limit.

Maximum Withdrawal

Simulated Funded Accounts: Max Payout Per Request

  • Prime: Payout 1 ($1,000-$3,500), Payout 2+ ($1,500-$4,000)
  • Classic: Payout 1 ($1,750-$3,000), Payout 2+ ($2,000-$6,000)
  • Premier / Elite: Payout 1 ($1,750-$3,000), Payout 2+ ($2,000-$6,500)
  • Velocity Standard: $750-$3,250 per request
  • Velocity Daily Payout Add-On: $600-$2,500 per request
  • S2F: Payout 1 ($1,000-$3,000), Payout 2+ ($1,000-$3,500)
  • S2F Accelerate $50K: Payout 1 ($1,250), Payout 2 ($1,250), Payout 3+ ($1,500)
  • Base Plan: $1,000 per request

Professional Stage Accounts

  • No maximum withdrawal amount, limited only by available profits above the required buffer.

Lab Plans

  • Sniper 25K: payouts 1-2 up to $500 each; payout 3 onward up to $1,000 each.
  • Accelerate 25K: up to $500 per payout.
  • Payday 50K: payouts 1-2 up to $1,000 each; payout 3 onward up to $1,250 each.

Fast Pass Funded Sim maximum per request: $1,500 (50K), $1,875 (100K), $2,250 (150K).

Minimum Withdrawal
  • Base Plan: $500.
  • Other plans: $250.

$250 minimum per payout request.

Other Payout Requirements

Base Plan

  • No qualifying trading days required
  • Keep at least $4,000 after withdrawal
  • Earn at least $1 in new net profit between payouts

Lab Plans

  • Sniper 25K: $2,500 profit required between payouts.
  • Payday 50K: $3,000 profit required between payouts.
No data
Commission

Commission depends on the trading platform used

  • NinjaTrader: standard NinjaTrader/CME exchange and clearing fees apply. Check NinjaTrader's commission schedule for exact rates per contract.
  • Tradovate: standard Tradovate platform and exchange fees apply. See Tradovate's pricing page for per-contract rates.
  • TradingView (via Tradovate): fees are determined by the connected broker (Tradovate). Refer to Tradovate for exact rates.
  • WealthCharts: standard exchange and clearing fees apply. Verify with WealthCharts for specific per-contract pricing.
No data
Account Reset

Evaluation Accounts

  • Unlimited resets at discounted fees. Fees vary by plan and account size.

Simulated Funded Accounts

  • Maximum of 3 resets per funded account.
    Lab Straight to Funded accounts cannot be reset.

Available on current plans. See challenges for reset price.

Add-ons
Yes

Daily Payout Add-On available for Velocity Plan: enables daily payout requests (1x per day) with no consistency rule and no minimum trading day requirement.

No
Instant
Yes
No
One Step
Yes
Yes
Account scaling
Yes

Scaling plan applies to Simulated Funded and Professional Stage accounts. In Sim Funded, position size increases with realized profit (end-of-day). In Professional Stage, scaling is decided case-by-case by the Live Desk based on EOD realized results.
Lab Sniper 25K and Accelerate 25K have fixed position limits and no scaling plan. Lab Payday 50K has a scaling plan.

No
Max Drawdown

Evaluation Phase

  • Prime / Classic / Premier EOD: End-of-Day trailing drawdown based on realized gains.
  • Elite / Premier Intraday: Intraday trailing drawdown based on unrealized gains.
  • S2F Standard: End-of-Day drawdown.
  • S2F Accelerate: Intraday trailing drawdown with no ceiling.
  • Velocity: End-of-Day drawdown.
  • Base Plan: $2,000 End-of-Day trailing drawdown based on the highest End-of-Day balance.

Simulated Funded Phase

  • End-of-Day drawdown on all plans except S2F Accelerate and Base Plan. Except for Lab Sniper 25K, once an End-of-Day account reaches the buffer zone (e.g., $52,000 for $50K account), the drawdown becomes static at the initial balance.
  • S2F Accelerate: Intraday trailing drawdown with no ceiling.
  • Base Plan: $2,000 intraday trailing drawdown that locks once the account reaches $2,000 in profit.

Professional Stage

  • End-of-Position (EoP) drawdown: adjusts only when a position is closed in profit. Drawdown locks at a static threshold once fully recovered (e.g., $50,100 for $50K account).

Lab Plans, Straight to Funded

  • Sniper 25K: EOD trailing drawdown that never locks.
  • Accelerate 25K: intraday trailing drawdown that never locks.
  • Payday 50K: EOD trailing drawdown locks at the initial balance once the EOD balance reaches the initial balance plus the maximum drawdown.

Two drawdown types available, both Trailing Maximum Drawdown:

Intraday TMD
Calculated in real time from unrealized profits during the session.

End of Day TMD
Calculated from realized profits at end of day (16:00 CT close). Follows account growth until frozen at the initial balance.

Funded Sim drawdown type matches the evaluation type purchased.

Profit Split

Simulated Funded Accounts

  • 90% trader / 10% firm

Professional Stage Accounts

  • 80% trader / 20% firm

Quick Pay Funded Sim

  • 80% trader / 20% TradeDay above $4,000 gross profit
  • 50% trader / 50% TradeDay below $4,000 gross profit
  • Split evaluated per account

Fast Pass Funded Sim

  • 80% trader / 20% TradeDay

Funded Live

  • 90% trader / 10% TradeDay
Free Trial
No
No
Daily Drawdown

Evaluation & Simulated Funded Accounts

  • Except for Lab Payday 50K, no explicit daily loss limit (DLL) during evaluation or simulated funded phase. However, the 2% CME price limit rule applies.

Professional Stage Accounts

  • Daily Loss Limit (DLL) applies and is tied to the current scaling tier.

Lab Plans

  • Sniper 25K and Accelerate 25K: no daily loss limit.
  • Payday 50K: a daily loss limit applies; exceeding it is a hard breach. The amount is shown in the challenge catalogue.
No data
Max Allocation

Up to 4 Simm Funded Accounts

Up to 10 Evaluation accounts and 5 Funded Sim accounts simultaneously per trader. Up to 5 active Funded Live accounts per trader. Multiple Funded Sim accounts allowed. Single-member US LLC allowed. Multi-member LLC, S-corps and C-corps not allowed.

Mandatory buffer
Limited

Classic / Premier / Elite / S2F Standard / Velocity: Buffer Required

  • A buffer must be maintained at all times. The account balance cannot drop below the buffer level after withdrawal. The buffer equals the drawdown level + $100.

Base Plan

  • Keep at least $4,000 in the account after every payout.

Premier Plus (accounts purchased after 4/7/26)

  • No buffer requirement. Net profit rule applies: account must have at least $1 more than the balance requested previously.

Lab Accelerate 25K

  • $1,100 payout buffer; only profits above this buffer can be requested.
No
Merge Accounts
No
No
Maximum Trading Days

No time limit. Traders can take as long as needed to meet the profit target.

Unlimited

Minimum Trading Days
  • Classic Evaluation: Minimum 2 trading days to pass.
  • Prime: Minimum 1 trading day to pass. Standard and Max differ only in position limits and price.
  • Premier: Choose a 1-Day Pass or 2-Day Pass at checkout. The selected minimum applies to the evaluation.
  • Elite and Velocity: Minimum 1 trading day to pass.
  • Funded payouts: 7 qualifying trading days ($200+ profit) for Classic / Premier / Elite / S2F Standard. 3 qualifying days for Prime. 5 qualifying days for Premier Plus accounts purchased after April 7, 2026.
  • Lab Sniper 25K, Accelerate 25K and Payday 50K bypass evaluation. Their funded payout day requirements are listed under minimum profitable days.
  • Quick Pay: 5 trading days minimum (non-consecutive).
  • Fast Pass: no minimum trading days.
Funded Phase Pricing Model

No subscription fee on funded accounts. No activation fee on Prime, Premier, and Velocity. Classic and Base Plan have an activation fee.
Lab Sniper 25K, Accelerate 25K and Payday 50K use a one-time purchase fee with no activation or recurring funded fee.

No activation fee on TradeDay 2.0.

Minimum Profitable Days

Payout Requirements (Simulated Funded)

  • Except for plans without a qualifying-day requirement, each payout cycle requires a minimum number of qualifying trading days with at least $200 realized profit per day.
  • Classic / Premier / Elite / S2F Standard: 7 qualifying days per payout.
  • Prime: 3 qualifying days per payout.
  • Premier Plus (after 4/7/26): 5 qualifying days per payout.

Professional Stage

  • A Qualified Trading Day is defined as a day with at least $200 in realized profit, used to determine withdrawal stage eligibility.

Lab Plans

  • Sniper 25K: no qualifying-day minimum; payout profit requirements still apply.
  • Accelerate 25K: 5 qualifying days per payout, each with at least $200 profit.
  • Payday 50K: 7 qualifying days per payout, each with at least $200 profit.

Fast Pass Funded Sim: 5 profitable days per payout; $150/$200/$250 minimum daily profit on 50K/100K/150K.

Position size scaling
Yes

Scaling applies to Simulated Funded and S2F Standard accounts based on end-of-day realized profit. Position size increases progressively as profit thresholds are met. S2F Accelerate does not use a scaling plan.

Premier Plus Simulated Funded

  • Accounts purchased before September 9, 2026 use the legacy scaling plan, with maximums of 3 minis / 30 micros on 25K, 5 / 50 on 50K, 10 / 100 on 100K and 15 / 150 on 150K.
  • Accounts purchased from September 9, 2026 have fixed maximums of 2 minis / 20 micros on 25K, 4 / 40 on 50K, 6 / 60 on 100K and 10 / 100 on 150K.

Base Plan Simulated Funded

  • Position size changes with the account balance after trades are closed. $1,000 allows 1 mini / 10 micros, $2,000 allows 2 / 20 and $4,000 allows 4 / 40, up to 15 minis / 150 micros.

Lab Plans

  • Sniper 25K and Accelerate 25K: no position size scaling.
  • Payday 50K: position size scaling applies.
Yes

Fast Pass Funded Sim starts at 2/3/4 contracts for 50K/100K/150K, then adds one contract per $2,000 of EOD profit. Quick Pay limits are fixed by account size.

Evaluation Phase Pricing Model

Monthly subscription for Prime, Premier (Intraday and EOD), Velocity, and Classic. Base Plan uses a one-time evaluation fee. Straight To Funded (S2F) uses a one-time fee and bypasses evaluation.

Monthly subscription. See challenges for current list prices and promotions for active discounts.

Expert Advisor (EA)
No
Yes

Allowed if using supported platforms: NinjaTrader, Tradovate, Tradingview, Jigsaw, Quantower. TradeDay does NOT expose Tradovate API. Own systems allowed (NOT purchased from third parties). If multiple users make same trades: All accounts closed.

VPN
Yes

VPNs and VPSs are allowed for trading activities on the trading platform. They must not be used to access or log in to the FFF account dashboard. Use is at the trader's own discretion and risk.

No
Hedging
No
No
Requires Stop Loss
No
No
Scalping
Yes
Yes

Scalping allowed EXCEPT: High-frequency ATS, >200 trades per day, trades in few seconds for 1-2 ticks, playing with sim matching engine.

Stacking / Layering (DCA)
No
Yes
Martingale
No data
No
Maximum Risk Limit
No
No data
Copy Trading
No
Yes

Allowed from a trader's own account into their TradeDay account, and between two of the trader's own TradeDay Funded Sim accounts. NOT allowed between Funded Live and Funded Sim, and NOT allowed between two different users. Compatible third-party tools: Tradesyncer (TDTC), Flowbots (tradeday), Expert Trading Programmers (TradeDay25OFF).

News Trading
Yes
No
Inactivity Rule

At least 1 trade per week (Monday-Friday) lasting minimum 10 seconds is required per account. Accounts idle for 2 consecutive weeks are marked inactive and automatically closed without restoration.

TradeDay does not charge inactivity fees. However, Tradovate archives the account after 1 month without login.

Consistency Rule
Limited

Classic Evaluation

  • 50% consistency rule applies: no more than 50% of the total profit target can be achieved in a single day.

Base Plan

  • Evaluation: 40% consistency rule.
  • Simulated Funded: no consistency rule.

Simulated Funded Accounts (Classic / Premier / Elite / S2F / Velocity: before 4/7/26)

  • Payouts 1-3: 40% maximum per trading day
  • Payouts 4-5: 45% maximum per trading day
  • Payouts 6+: 50% maximum per trading day

S2F

  • Standard: 25% daily consistency applies.
  • Accelerate 50K: 25% lifetime consistency applies.

Prime Simulated Funded

  • 40% lifetime consistency rule.

Premier Plus Simulated Funded

  • Accounts purchased before September 9, 2026: no consistency rule.
  • Accounts purchased from September 9, 2026: 40% consistency rule.
  • Promotional giveaway accounts: 40% consistency rule.

Professional Stage

  • No consistency rule.

Lab Plans

  • Sniper 25K: no consistency rule.
  • Accelerate 25K: 25% consistency requirement.
  • Payday 50K: 40% consistency requirement.
Yes

Quick Pay: 30% consistency in evaluation. Fast Pass: 45% consistency in evaluation and Funded Sim. Funded Live has no consistency rule.

Hold Weekend
No
No
Prohibited Strategies
  • Bots / algorithmic trading
  • Hedging
  • Trading within 2% of CME price limits
  • Straddles / strangles exploiting news volatility
  • Excessive Dollar Cost Averaging (DCA) into losing positions
  • Micro-scalping: over 50% of trades and over 50% of profits must come from positions held longer than 20 seconds
  • Unauthorized group trading / signal services
  • Using bots/ATS purchased from third parties
  • Systems generating >200 trades in a day
  • Strategies trading in few seconds to capture only a few ticks
  • Attempting to capture queue position advantage by playing with sim engine
  • Spoofing and layering (per CME Group rules)
  • Order splitting (multiple limit orders at same price simultaneously)
  • Trading in illiquid markets to benefit from missed fills
  • Exploiting lack of slippage in simulation (e.g., bracket orders in data releases)
  • Trading outside best bid/offer
  • Using external or slow data feed
  • High-frequency trading or short-term trading
  • Simultaneous opposite positions between accounts
  • Multiple registrations with different names/emails
  • Using VPN or VPS to mask location
  • Hedging: Prohibited (trading long in one account and short in another for same product)
  • Trading within 2% of price limit (Funded Live only, loss of account)
  • Microscalping (positions held <5-10 seconds dominating profit)
  • Trading Tier 1 news/data releases (2 min before/after, auto-liquidation)
Overnight positions
Yes

Overnight trading is allowed. All positions must be closed by 4:15 PM EST daily (automatic close if not closed manually). Trading resumes at 6:00 PM EST. Weekend trading is not permitted; all positions must be closed before Friday 4:15 PM EST.

Yes
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