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Getting paid at E8 Markets Perpetuals and forTraders Perps

The fundamental difference between these two firms lies in their payout philosophy: E8 Markets Perpetuals offers a path to keep up to 100% of the profits with very high withdrawal flexibility, whereas forTraders Perps prioritizes immediate access to rewards from day one, albeit with a cap on the maximum amount per withdrawal.

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The split

E8 Markets Perpetuals allows you to choose your profit split at the time of purchase, offering 80%, 90%, or even 100%. However, it is important to note that in the E8 Pro Perpetual plan, payouts are calculated by setting aside 50% of total profits as a drawdown buffer; you then receive your selected percentage of the remaining 50%. forTraders Perps offers a standard 80% split, which can increase to 100% as a penalty if the firm fails to process your payment within 48 hours.

How often you can withdraw

Frequency is a strong point for both firms.

  • E8 Markets Perpetuals: In the E8 One Perpetual plan, you can request your first payout after 3 days and subsequent payouts on demand. In the E8 Pro Perpetual plan, payout requests can be made daily.
  • forTraders Perps: Withdrawals are available on demand from the very first day you trade the Master account, provided all positions are closed.

Minimums and methods

The logistics of receiving your money vary significantly in terms of limits:

  • E8 Markets Perpetuals: There is no maximum payout cap. To withdraw from E8 One, your net payout must exceed 50% of the daily drawdown amount. For E8 Pro, you only need at least 1% profit. They support Bank Transfer, Crypto, Rise, and Plane.
  • forTraders Perps: There is a withdrawal cap of $10,000 per reward. The minimum to move funds from your internal wallet is $100. They charge a $25 fee for crypto payouts (under $400) and $50 via Rise (over $400).

What delays a payout

A payout can be delayed or cancelled by breaching risk and consistency rules:

  • Risk Rules: E8 One uses a 4% daily and 6% dynamic drawdown. E8 Pro uses a 2.5% daily and 8% static drawdown. forTraders Perps is more restrictive with a 3% daily and 5% static drawdown; notably, after your first reward in forTraders, the drawdown floor locks at the initial balance forever.
  • Consistency and Hurdles: E8 One applies a 40% best-day rule in the performance account, meaning no single day can account for more than 40% of your total profit. forTraders Perps requires a 1% profit on the initial balance for the first reward, and then a 2% growth between subsequent rewards.
  • News Trading: Both firms restrict opening/closing trades 5 minutes before and after high-impact news on their performance/master accounts (except E8 Pro, which allows it).

What it takes to get there

Before reaching the first payout, you must pass a single-phase evaluation:

  • Price: For a $10,000 account, E8 Pro costs $68 and E8 One costs $88, while forTraders Perps (Fast) costs $93.
  • Profit Targets: E8 One requires 9%, E8 Pro requires 8%, and forTraders Perps requires 10%.
  • Platforms and Styles: E8 uses its proprietary E8 Terminal (Hyperliquid feed) and allows EAs and scalping (as long as 50% of trades last over one minute). forTraders uses its own platform (Hyperliquid/Binance feed) but prohibits fully autonomous EAs and requires a minimum 5-second hold for trades.

Which pays out more comfortably

E8 Markets Perpetuals pays out more comfortably for high-volume traders or those seeking to scale without limits, thanks to its 100% split option and the absence of a payout cap. forTraders Perps is better suited for traders who want to withdraw small amounts frequently from day one and value a 48-hour payment guarantee, even if they have to deal with a $10,000 cap and a locking drawdown floor.

Frequently asked questions

Which firm is more affordable for a $50,000 evaluation, E8 Markets Perpetuals or forTraders Perps?

E8 Markets Perpetuals is significantly more affordable, with the E8 Pro Perpetual $50k plan priced at $228 and the E8 One at $288. In comparison, the forTraders Perps $50k evaluation costs $493.

Can I use automated trading bots in both E8 Markets Perpetuals and forTraders Perps?

No, there is a major difference. E8 Markets Perpetuals allows the use of EAs for automated trading. However, forTraders Perps only allows EAs as decision-support tools (alerts or partial management); fully autonomous trading bots are strictly prohibited.

Who offers a higher profit share, E8 Markets Perpetuals or forTraders Perps?

E8 Markets Perpetuals offers a higher potential share, allowing traders to select an 80%, 90%, or 100% profit split at checkout. forTraders Perps offers a fixed 80% split, which only moves to 100% if the firm fails to pay within their 48-hour guarantee period.

Which firm has more flexible news trading rules, E8 Markets Perpetuals or forTraders Perps?

E8 Markets Perpetuals is more flexible if you choose the E8 Pro plan, which allows news trading in both evaluation and performance accounts. In contrast, forTraders Perps allows it during the challenge but considers it a "soft breach" on the Master account, meaning profits from trades opened 5 minutes before or after news may be deducted.

Field by field

E8 Markets Perpetuals and forTraders Perps, side by side

Rules, plans, platforms, leverage, commissions and payouts of both, with the option to see only what differs.

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Headquarters

100 Crescent Ct, Unit 700, Dallas, Texas 75201, US

Goldcrest Executive Building, Office No. 1210, JLT, Cluster C, Dubai, United Arab Emirates

CEO

Dylan Elchami

Jakub Rož

Country

United States

United Arab Emirates

Foundation

2021

2023

Banned Countries
Afghanistan, Iran, Syria, Albania, Iraq, Sudan, Algeria, Kosovo, Somalia, Burma/Myanmar, South Sudan, Burundi, Lebanon, Ukraine, Belarus, Libya, United Arab Emirates, Central African Republic, Mali, Venezuela, Cuba, Midway Islands, Yemen, Democratic Republic of the Congo, North Korea (Democratic People's Republic of Korea), Vatican City, Congo, Nicaragua, West Bank, Ethiopia, Pakistan, Western Sahara, Russia, Zambia, Samoa
Pakistan, Iran, Syria, Myanmar, Bangladesh, North Korea, Russian Federation, Belarus, Cuba, Lebanon, Libya, Sudan, South Sudan, Crimea, Donetsk, Luhansk, United Arab Emirates
Assets
Forex, Indices, Commodities, Crypto, Stocks
Crypto, Stocks, Indices, Commodities, Forex
Brokers

Hyperliquid data feed

No broker: prices come from Hyperliquid or Binance, whichever has more liquidity for each market.

Refund
Yes

E8 Pro Perpetual evaluation fees are refundable.

No data
Payout Fee
No data
  • Crypto ($100 to $399): $25
  • Rise ($400 or more): $50
Platforms
E8 Terminal
For Traders Perps
Payout Methods
Transfer, Crypto, Rise, Plane
Crypto, Rise
Payment Methods
Card, Crypto, GooglePay, ApplePay
Card, Crypto
Payout Frequency
  • E8 One Perpetual: first payout after 3 days; subsequent payouts on demand
  • E8 Pro Perpetual: daily payout requests

On demand from the first day on the Master account, with positions closed. First reward after 1% profit on the initial balance; then 2% growth on the remaining balance between rewards.

Payout Guarantee
No data

48 hours: if not paid within 48h, 100% profit split

Crypto Weekend Trading
Yes
Yes

Every market trades 24/7, weekends included: indices, gold and oil too.

Maximum Withdrawal
  • E8 One Perpetual: no payout cap
  • E8 Pro Perpetual: no payout cap

$10,000 per reward.

Minimum Withdrawal
  • E8 One Perpetual: net payout must exceed 50% of the daily drawdown amount
  • E8 Pro Perpetual: at least 1% profit

$100 to withdraw from the For Traders wallet.

Forex
  • E8 One and E8 Pro Perpetual: 25:1
No data
Metals
  • E8 One and E8 Pro Perpetual: 15:1

Gold: 20:1 in the help center, 10:1 in the instruments list. Silver, platinum, palladium and copper: 5:1.

Energies
  • E8 One and E8 Pro Perpetual: 15:1

WTI and Brent: 8:1. Natural gas: 5:1.

Indices
  • E8 One and E8 Pro Perpetual: 15:1

NAS100 and SP500: 12:1. JP225: 5:1.

Stocks
  • E8 One and E8 Pro Perpetual: 5:1

NVDA, AAPL, MSFT, AMZN, META and GOOGL: 4:1. MSTR, COIN, CRCL, CRWV and BMNR: 2:1. Other stocks: 3:1.

Crypto
  • Bitcoin and Ethereum: 15:1
  • Other cryptocurrencies: 2:1

BTC: 10:1. ETH: 8:1. BNB and SOL: 5:1. HYPE, DOGE, XRP, TRX and LIT: 3:1. Other crypto: 2:1.

Commission
  • Crypto perpetuals: 0.015% maker / 0.045% taker
  • Traditional instruments: 0.003% maker / 0.009% taker
No data
Swap Free
No
No

Fixed daily fee on position value, charged hourly and equal for longs and shorts: crypto 0.03%, forex 0.005%, other markets 0.015%.

Account Reset

10% discount

No data
Add-ons
No
No data
Instant
No
No
One Step
Yes
Yes
Account scaling
No
No data
Two Steps
No
No
Max Drawdown
  • E8 One Perpetual: 6% dynamic drawdown
  • E8 Pro Perpetual: 8% static drawdown

Static, measured from the initial balance, in the challenge and on the Master account. After the first reward the floor locks at the initial balance for good. Hard breach.

Profit Split

80%, 90% or 100%, depending on the option selected at checkout

80%.

Free Trial
Yes

E8 Trial can replicate E8 One Perpetual on E8 Terminal. Up to two trials may be opened every 28 days. Trial accounts do not qualify for payouts and close after 30 days.

No data
Daily Drawdown
  • E8 One Perpetual: 4%
  • E8 Pro Perpetual: 2.5%

Hard breach, open positions included. A fixed share of the initial balance, subtracted at 00:00 server time (CET/CEST) from the higher of balance or equity.

Three Steps
No
No
Max Allocation

Unlimited evaluation allocation. Maximum performance allocation: $500,000 for E8 One Perpetual and $500,000 for E8 Pro Perpetual.

No data
Payout Frequency
  • E8 One Perpetual: first payout after 3 days; subsequent payouts on demand
  • E8 Pro Perpetual: daily payout requests
No data
Merge Accounts
Yes
  • E8 One Perpetual: account merging is allowed
No data
Maximum Trading Days

Unlimited

No time limit.

Minimum Trading Days

No minimum trading days. At least one trade must be placed every 60 days to avoid inactivity.

None.

Monthly Competition
No
No data
Minimum Profitable Days
  • E8 One Perpetual: none
  • E8 Pro Perpetual: none

None.

Expert Advisor (EA)
Yes
No

EAs allowed only as decision-support tools (alerts, partial management, predefined rules). Fully autonomous trading bots are prohibited.

VPN
Yes
No data
Hedging
No
No

Cross-account hedging (opposing positions on the same instrument across accounts) is forbidden.

Requires Stop Loss
No
No data
Scalping
Yes

You cannot hold more than 50% of your trades for under one minute

Yes

Manual scalping allowed with a minimum 5-second hold per trade. Tick scalping and HFT are forbidden.

Stacking / Layering (DCA)
Yes
No data
Martingale
No data
No

Martingale strategies (doubling position size after losses) are classified as gambling and forbidden.

Copy Trading
Yes
No

Outbound copy trading (from your For Traders account to external accounts) is allowed. Inbound copy trading from external sources is strictly forbidden.

News Trading
Yes
  • E8 One Perpetual evaluation: allowed
  • E8 One Perpetual performance account: opening or closing trades within five minutes before or after high-impact news is prohibited
  • E8 Pro Perpetual: allowed in evaluation and performance accounts
Limited

Free in the challenge. On the Master account, no new positions from 5 minutes before to 5 minutes after high-impact news; open positions can stay. Breaking it is a soft breach: those profits may be deducted.

Inactivity Rule
Yes

At least one trade every 60 days

Yes

Close at least one position every 7 days, in the challenge and on the Master account. Breaking it is a hard breach.

Consistency Rule
Yes
  • E8 One Perpetual: 40% best-day rule in the performance account
  • E8 Pro Perpetual: no consistency rule
No
Hold Weekend
Yes

Perpetual markets are available 24/7.

Yes

Positions can stay open overnight and over the weekend.

Prohibited Strategies
  • All-or-nothing
  • Hedging across multiple accounts
  • Multiple users utilizing the same EA
  • Irresponsible Trading in Simulated Accounts
  • High-Frequency Trading
  • External Account Management
  • Arbitrage (latency, reverse, statistical)
  • HFT (High Frequency Trading)
  • Grid trading
  • Tick scalping
  • Fully autonomous bots/EAs
  • Cross-account hedging
  • Gambling behaviors (overleveraging, all-in trades > 70% of profit target)
  • Martingale
  • Inbound copy trading and signal services
  • Group/signal trading from Telegram, Discord etc.
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