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Trading styles allowed at Finotive Futures and The5ers Futures

Finotive Futures offers high-leverage entry via 1-Step evaluations or Instant funding accounts with a 90% profit split and on-demand payouts. The5ers Futures provides more traditional 1-Step challenges (Day Trade and Swing) with a lower entry price starting at $59, an 80% profit split, and payouts every 14 days. Both firms utilize end-of-day (EOD) trailing drawdown for their evaluation phases, but they differ significantly in their stance on automation and holding periods.

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Scalping and Intraday Trading

Both firms are well-suited for scalpers, though they apply different management rules to ensure consistency.

  • Rules and Limitations: Finotive allows "microscalping," but stipulates that no more than 50% of total profits can come from trades held for less than 30 seconds. The5ers allows scalping but enforces a 40% consistency rule per position, meaning a single lucky trade cannot account for nearly half the profit target.
  • Platforms: Finotive provides a wider range of high-performance tools like NinjaTrader, Tradovate, Quantower, and ATAS. The5ers is limited to the BlackArrow platform.
  • Risk and Drawdown: Finotive’s 1-Step accounts use an EOD trailing drawdown, which is favorable for scalpers as it ignores intraday equity peaks. However, their Instant accounts use intraday trailing, which is much tighter for active scalpers. The5ers uses a 4% EOD trailing drawdown across the board.
  • Costs: Scalpers at The5ers pay $5 per side for standard futures and $2.50 for micros. Finotive does not specify exact commission rates in the data but offers a higher 90% profit split.

Swing Trading and Overnight Positions

There is a stark contrast between the two firms regarding the ability to hold trades overnight.

  • Rules and Limitations: Finotive Futures essentially prohibits swing trading; all positions are automatically closed at 15:55 CT, and weekend holding is not allowed. The5ers offers a specific "Swing" account type that allows limited overnight exposure (e.g., 1 mini contract on a 25K account), although they also prohibit weekend holding.
  • Risk: For swing traders at The5ers, the 4% EOD trailing drawdown resets to 4% below the new balance after a payout, allowing for some breathing room if the trade remains open across days.
  • Platforms: The lack of TradingView or NinjaTrader at The5ers might be a hurdle for some swing traders used to those interfaces, as they must use BlackArrow.

Automated Trading (EAs and Bots)

If your trading style relies on algorithms, the choice between these two firms is binary.

  • Rules and Limitations: Finotive Futures allows bots, EAs, and personal automated strategies as long as they do not exploit the simulated environment or latency. The5ers Futures strictly prohibits algorithmic and high-frequency trading (HFT).
  • Tech Infrastructure: Finotive supports professional algorithmic platforms like Quantower and ATAS, making it the clear choice for tech-heavy traders.
  • Risk: Automated systems at Finotive must still respect the 15-day inactivity rule; if the bot doesn't trigger a trade for 15 days, the account is permanently closed.

News Trading

Trading during high-impact economic events is handled with varying degrees of restriction.

  • Rules and Limitations: Finotive allows unrestricted news trading during the evaluation. However, on funded and instant accounts, a 4-minute "no-trade" window is enforced (2 minutes before and after the news). The5ers allows news trading without such specific time-based restrictions mentioned in their futures rules.
  • Payout Impact: At Finotive, violating news rules on a funded account can lead to compliance issues during payout reviews. The5ers' 40% consistency rule still applies to news volatility, preventing traders from passing or withdrawing based on a single news spike.

Copy Trading and Hedging

These strategies are restricted to prevent risk manipulation across different users.

  • Copy Trading: Finotive allows copy trading only between accounts owned by the same trader. The5ers is more restrictive, only allowing it between their 25K and 50K accounts with a total cap of $75,000.
  • Hedging: Finotive allows hedging within a single account (e.g., Mini vs. Micro). The5ers prohibits hedging entirely as part of its prohibited strategies.
  • Risk: Finotive prohibits "correlated hedges" across different prop firms, a rule intended to prevent traders from betting on both sides of a move using different providers.

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  • If you use EAs or Bots: Finotive Futures is your only option, as The5ers bans all algorithmic trading.
  • If you are a Swing Trader: The5ers Futures is the better fit, provided you choose their specific "Swing" account to avoid daily auto-closures.
  • If you want the lowest entry cost: The5ers Futures is superior, with challenges starting at $59 compared to Finotive’s $129.
  • If you want the highest profit share and fastest payouts: Finotive Futures wins with a 90% split and on-demand processing within 24-48 hours.

Frequently asked questions

Which firm is cheaper to start a $50K challenge, Finotive Futures or The5ers Futures?

The5ers Futures is significantly cheaper for a $50K evaluation, with its Day Trade account priced at $100 and its Swing account at $120. In contrast, Finotive Futures charges $179 for its $50K 1-Step evaluation. This makes The5ers a more accessible option for traders with limited initial capital.

Who offers a higher profit split, Finotive Futures or The5ers Futures?

Finotive Futures offers a higher profit split of 90% across both its 1-Step funded accounts and its Instant funding accounts. The5ers Futures provides a fixed 80% profit split for the trader across all its funded programs.

Can I use Expert Advisors (EAs) on both Finotive Futures and The5ers Futures?

No, you can only use them on Finotive Futures. Finotive allows personal automated strategies and EAs as long as they don't exploit the feed or latency. The5ers Futures explicitly prohibits all forms of algorithmic and high-frequency trading (HFT), requiring all trades to be executed manually.

Which firm has a faster payout process, Finotive Futures or The5ers Futures?

Finotive Futures has a faster process, offering payouts "on demand" once requirements are met, with requests typically processed within 24 to 48 hours. The5ers Futures requires a 14-day waiting period for the first payout, and subsequent withdrawals can only be made every 14 days.

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Headquarters

Innovation One Building, Level 2, DIFC, Dubai, United Arab Emirates

14 Haroshet st, Raanaa, Israel

CEO

Oliver Newland

Saul Lokier

Country

United Arab Emirates

Israel

Foundation

2026

2016

Banned Countries
Cuba, Iran, North Korea, Syria
Afghanistan, Belarus, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Burundi, Central African Republic, Cuba, Congo Republic, Crimea, Democratic Republic of Congo, Donetsk, Eritrea, Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, Iraq, Iran, Israel, Kherson, Laos, Lebanon, Liberia, Libya, Luhansk, Myanmar, North Korea, Palestinian Territory, Papua New Guinea, Russia, South Sudan, Sudan, Somalia, Syria, Vanuatu, Venezuela, Yemen, Zaporizhzhia
Assets
Futures
Indices, Currencies, Metals, Agriculture, Energies
Brokers
NinjaTrader, Volumetrica
No data
Platforms
NinjaTrader, Tradovate, Tradingview, DeepCharts, ATAS, Quantower
BlackArrow
Payout Methods
Transfer, Crypto, Revolut
Rise, Crypto, Transfer
Live Account
Limited

Traders may enter the live-account review pool after payout 5, significant lifetime payouts, exceptional simulated-funded performance or a previous live transition. Selection is always at Finotive Futures' discretion.

No

The5ers states that all activity is conducted in a simulated trading environment.

Payment Methods
Card, Crypto, PayPal, Transfer
Card, PayPal, Crypto
Payout Frequency

On demand once all requirements are met.

First payout after 14 days; subsequent payouts every 14 days after the last approved withdrawal.

Payout Guarantee

Payout requests are processed within 24 to 48 hours.

Approved withdrawals are normally processed within 3 business days.

Maximum Withdrawal

1-Step Funded

  • $25K: $1,000 first payout; $1,500 thereafter
  • $50K: $2,000 first payout; $2,500 thereafter
  • $100K: $2,500 first payout; $3,000 thereafter
  • $150K: $3,000 first payout; $3,500 thereafter

Instant

  • $25K: $1,000
  • $50K: $2,000
  • $100K: $3,000
  • $150K: $4,000

25K: $1,250. 50K: payouts 1–4 are capped at $1,500 / $2,000 / $2,500 / $3,000; later payouts remain capped at $3,000. 100K and 150K: 3% of the current balance.

Minimum Withdrawal

$500 before the 90% reward split.

A payout can be requested after reaching at least 4% profit over the initial account balance.

Other Payout Requirements

All positions must be closed and KYC and compliance checks must be complete before requesting a payout.

The funded account must be at least 14 days old and have reached at least 4% profit. The 14-day cycle restarts after scaling.

Payout Fee
No data

3.5% for Rise, cryptocurrencies and bank transfers. No fee when the payout is converted into Hub Credits.

Commission
No data

Standard futures: $5 per side. Micro futures: $2.50 per side.

Account Reset
  • 1-Step evaluation: a discounted reset can be purchased within 14 calendar days of a breach.
  • 1-Step Funded: up to 2 resets before the first payout, within 14 days of the breach; each costs 5 times the evaluation fee.
  • Instant: no standard reset; the same size can be repurchased at a reduced price within 3 calendar days of a breach.
No data
Instant
Yes
No
One Step
Yes
Yes
Account scaling
Yes
Yes

At every approved 10% profit milestone, buying power increases by 5%, up to $500,000.

Max Drawdown
  • 1-Step: EOD trailing, based on the highest end-of-day balance; it locks at the initial balance once the Profit Buffer is reached.
  • Instant: intraday trailing, following the highest balance or open equity.
  • Reaching the maximum drawdown is a hard breach.

4% EOD trailing drawdown, calculated from the highest midnight balance or equity. After a payout, it resets to 4% below the new balance.

Daily Drawdown

Calculated from the end-of-day balance. A breach is soft: positions are closed and trading stops for that day; the account is not failed. The new daily limit on 25K 1-Step evaluations applies only to new purchases; existing accounts retain their original rules.

No data
Max Allocation
1,000,000
500,000
Mandatory buffer
Limited

Applies only to 1-Step Funded accounts and must remain in the account: $1,000 on $25K, $2,000 on $50K, $3,000 on $100K and $4,500 on $150K. Each payout also requires new profit equal to 1% of the initial balance above the buffer. Instant accounts use a recurring payout milestone instead: $1,450, $3,000, $5,000 and $8,000 respectively.

No
Maximum Accounts

Unlimited evaluation accounts. Total funded allocation across 1-Step and Instant accounts is capped at $1,000,000.

No data
Maximum Trading Days

No time limit for the 1-Step evaluation. Accounts close after 15 consecutive calendar days without a trade.

No time limit. At least one trade must be placed every 14 days.

Minimum Trading Days

The 1-Step evaluation can be passed in one trading day.

The evaluation can be passed in one trading day while respecting the consistency rule.

Funded Phase Pricing Model

No activation fee or recurring subscription.

No monthly fee. The current program catalogue shows no activation fee.

Minimum Profitable Days
  • 1-Step evaluation: none
  • 1-Step Funded: 3 per payout cycle
  • Instant: 5 per payout cycle

A profitable day requires at least 0.25% of the initial account balance in realised profit.

No data
Evaluation Phase Pricing Model

One-time purchase fee. No subscription or automatic rebilling, and no activation fee after passing.

One-time evaluation fee with no monthly subscription.

Profit Split
No data

80% for the trader across all funded accounts.

Position size scaling
No data
Yes

Every approved 10% profit milestone adds 1 mini and 10 micro contracts.

Expert Advisor (EA)
Yes

Bots, EAs and personal automated strategies are allowed if they do not exploit latency, feed errors or the simulated environment.

No

Algorithmic and high-frequency trading are prohibited.

VPN
Limited

Connections must remain stable and verifiable. VPNs, proxies or location masking are prohibited when they impair identity, location or account-control checks.

Yes
Hedging
Limited

Hedging within one account is allowed, including mini versus micro positions. Opposing or correlated hedges across separate accounts or prop firms are prohibited.

No
Requires Stop Loss
No
No
Scalping
Limited

Microscalping is allowed, but no more than 50% of total profit may come from trades held for less than 30 seconds.

Yes
Martingale
Limited

Allowed when used responsibly within contract and drawdown limits. Aggressive exposure may be reviewed as gambling behaviour.

Yes
Copy Trading
Limited

Allowed only between accounts personally owned and controlled by the same trader, including their accounts at other prop firms. Third-party signals, accounts and copy services are prohibited.

Limited

Only between the trader's own 25K and 50K accounts, with a combined maximum allocation of $75,000.

News Trading
Limited

Allowed without restrictions during the 1-Step evaluation. On 1-Step Funded and Instant accounts, orders cannot be opened, closed or triggered from 2 minutes before until 2 minutes after high-impact news.

Yes
Inactivity Rule

15 consecutive calendar days without a trade is a hard breach and permanently closes the account.

Yes

At least one trade must be placed every 14 days.

Consistency Rule
Limited

No consistency rule during the 1-Step evaluation. At payout, one day may represent at most 40% of cycle profit on 1-Step Funded accounts and 20% on Instant accounts.

Yes

40% per-position consistency rule during evaluation and funded stages. It is calculated using accumulated profitable trades; losing trades are not deducted.

Hold Weekend
No

Positions cannot be carried through the Friday close into the Sunday reopen.

No
Prohibited Strategies

Hedging across accounts or platforms; latency, feed, spread or exchange arbitrage; account or device sharing; coordinated/group trading; copying third parties; spoofing, layering and market or order-queue manipulation; volume inflation or artificial trades; HFT and algorithmic exploitation; non-viable simulated-fill strategies; gambling/account rolling; news straddling; and gap or illiquid-market exploitation.

High-frequency trading, algorithmic trading and hedging.

Overnight positions
No

All open positions are automatically closed at 15:55 CT, five minutes before the daily close.

Limited

Day Trade does not allow overnight positions. Swing allows limited overnight exposure: 1 mini/10 micros on 25K and 50K, 2/20 on 100K and 3/30 on 150K.

Stacking / Layering (DCA)
No data
Yes
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