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Detailed Comparison: FTMO vs. Upcomers (2025)

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1. Corporate Profile and Market Reputation

The difference in seniority and regulatory transparency between these two firms is significant.

  • Longevity and Track Record: FTMO is one of the oldest firms in the industry (founded in 2015). It has a solid reputation with a 4.8 Trustpilot score.
  • Regulatory Context: Upcomers is a newer entity (2023) based in the UAE. Notably, its Trustpilot profile is blocked, which usually indicates a violation of platform terms or high levels of reported inorganic activity.
  • Geographic Restrictions: FTMO has a long list of banned countries, including India and Indonesia, whereas Upcomers bans fewer nations but includes the United Arab Emirates (its own headquarters' location).

2. Evaluation Models and Flexibility

FTMO focuses on a streamlined professional path, while Upcomers offers an exhaustive variety of "gamified" structures.

  • FTMO Structure: Offers traditional 1-Step and 2-Step challenges. It maintains a high level of simplicity focused on professional trading standards.
  • Upcomers Complexity: Provides an unusually wide range of options: 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5-step evaluations, plus Instant Funding (Vanguard, Oracle, Ember) and even "Breakout" sessions (4h or 24h).
  • Logical Consequence: For a trader, FTMO offers a standardized environment. Upcomers offers higher customization, but the complexity of having so many rules (Eon, Obsidian, Astral, etc.) increases the probability of an accidental rule breach.

3. Drawdown Mechanics and Risk Shielding

This is the most critical technical difference for capital preservation.

  • FTMO Drawdown: Uses a Static Drawdown (fixed from the starting balance). This is the most trader-friendly model because profit increases the buffer between the current balance and the loss limit.
  • Upcomers Drawdown Systems: Uses three distinct types depending on the plan:
    • Static: Fixed (used in early challenge phases).
    • Dynamic Risk Shield™: A trailing drawdown that follows the highest equity (including open trades). It only "locks" at the starting balance once the profit target is met.
    • Nonstop Dynamic: Never locks; it trails equity upward forever.
  • Risk Analysis: Upcomers' Dynamic Drawdown is significantly more difficult to manage than FTMO's Static model. A trailing drawdown means that if you are in a large floating profit and the trade reverses, you could hit your drawdown limit even if your account balance is still positive.

4. Strategy Restrictions and Automated Trading (EA)

The firms take opposite stances on how trades can be executed.

  • Expert Advisors (EAs): FTMO allows EAs and automated trading without major restrictions. Upcomers strictly prohibits EAs, bots, and even partial automation (automated SL/TP management).
  • Copy Trading: FTMO allows copying from your own accounts. Upcomers prohibits all forms of copy trading from external sources and signal services.
  • Hold/News Trading: Both offer "Swing" versions without restrictions. However, FTMO’s "Standard" accounts have a strict 4-minute window (2 min before/after) around news, whereas Upcomers is generally more permissive with news but enforces a 2-minute minimum trade duration on certain accounts (Oracle/Supernova).

5. Profit Splits and Withdrawal Realities

While Upcomers advertises higher percentages, the execution of payouts is more restrictive.

  • Profit Split: FTMO offers 80% to 90%. Upcomers advertises a massive 99%.
  • Payout Caps (The "Catch"): FTMO has no maximum withdrawal amount. Upcomers uses a progressive payout cap for the first 7 withdrawals (starting at just 1% of the initial balance for the first payout).
  • Minimum Profitable Days: Upcomers requires a "Daily March" (days with at least 0.5% profit) for several accounts (Vanguard, Oracle, Turbo), whereas FTMO's 2-Step has no such profitable-day requirement, only a 4-day minimum trading activity.

6. Trading Conditions and Platforms

  • Leverage: FTMO provides up to 100:1 (Standard) and 30:1 (Swing). Upcomers provides a flat 100:1 across most programs.
  • Commissions: Both charge roughly $5 per lot on Forex. FTMO is transparent about its liquidity providers, while Upcomers uses Royal Flow - FZCO, an internal/private broker.
  • Platforms: FTMO supports MT4, MT5, cTrader, and DXTrade. Upcomers offers TradeLocker, MatchTrader, and ByBit (via MT5).

7. Scaling and Long-Term Career

  • FTMO Path: Offers a clear professional transition. Traders can reach the Prime/Supreme status and potentially get a 2-year contract with Quantlane, a traditional prop firm in Prague, with a fixed salary.
  • Upcomers Path: Focuses on balance increases (+35% every 4 months) up to $4M, but lacks the institutional career bridge that FTMO provides.

8. Summary: Which Firm Should You Choose?

Choose FTMO if:

  • You value institutional reputation and long-term stability (10 years in the market).
  • You use EAs or automated trading strategies.
  • You want a Static Drawdown that doesn't trail your open equity.
  • You want to withdraw your full profit immediately without percentage caps or "minimum profitable day" hurdles.
  • You are looking for a career path toward professional asset management (Quantlane).

Choose Upcomers if:

  • You want the highest possible profit split (99%) and are willing to wait through 7 withdrawals to unlock unlimited payouts.
  • You are interested in Instant Funding or unconventional evaluation formats (3, 4, or 5 steps).
  • You prefer Swap-Free accounts by default (all Upcomers accounts are swap-free).
  • You are a manual trader who does not rely on any form of automation or EAs.
  • You want to manage very large simulated balances (up to $1.5M initially) without traditional evaluation phases.
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Headquarters

Praga 1, Calle Purkynova 2121/3, 110 00, Czech Republic

Building A1, IFZA Business Park, Dubai Silicon Oasis, Dubai, United Arab Emirates

CEO

Otakar Suffner

Jakub Zeliska

Country

Czech Republic

United Arab Emirates

Foundation

2015

2023

Banned Countries
Afghanistan, Anguilla, Antarctica, Antigua and Barbuda, Belarus, Belize, Bhutan, Bouvet Island, Burundi, Cape Verde, Central African Republic, Chad, Cook Islands, Comoros, Congo, Cuba, Djibouti, Dominica, Equatorial Guinea, Eritrea, Fiji, Gabon, Gambia, Grenada, Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, Vatican City, India, Indonesia, Iraq, Kazakhstan, Kiribati, Kosovo, Kyrgyzstan, Lesotho, Liberia, Malawi, Mali, Mauritania, Marshall Islands, Micronesia, Nauru, Niger, Niue, Papua New Guinea, Russia, Saint Barthélemy, Saint Kitts and Nevis, Saint Lucia, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, Samoa, San Marino, Sao Tome and Principe, Seychelles, Sierra Leone, Solomon Islands, Somalia, South Sudan, Sudan, Suriname, Eswatini, Tajikistan, Timor-Leste, Tokelau, Tonga, Turkmenistan, Tuvalu, Ukraine (Crimea, Sevastopol, Donetsk, Kherson, Luhansk, Zaporizhzhia), Uzbekistan, Vanuatu, Venezuela, Western Sahara
Afghanistan, Central African Republic, Crimea, Donetsk and Luhansk regions of Ukraine, Cuba, Iran, Iraq, Kosovo, Libya, Mali, Myanmar, North Korea, Palestine, Russia, Somalia, South Sudan, Sudan, Syria, Vanuatu, Venezuela
Assets
Forex, Indices, Commodities, Crypto, Stocks
Forex, Commodities, Indices, Stocks, Crypto
Brokers

Liquidity Provider

Royal Flow - FZCO
Refund
Yes

(Only 2-Step Challenge) Full refound after first payout

Yes

200% Challenge fee refund after the 3rd fully approved payout on Challenge accounts (Ash, Thunderbolt and Phoenix). The trader must request it through support. A partially approved payout or a payout with a strategy violation permanently disqualifies that account. It does not apply to Instant Funding accounts.

Platforms
Metatrader 4, Metatrader 5, cTrader, DXTrade, Tradingview
TradeLocker, Metatrader 5, MatchTrader, cTrader, DX
Payout Methods
Transfer, PayPal
Crypto, Transfer
Payment Methods
Card, Crypto, PayPal, Skrill
Card, Crypto, PayPal, ApplePay, GooglePay
Margin Call Level

100%

No data
Payout Frequency

14 days

  • Withdrawal review by Risk Team: 24-48h (account trading is frozen during review).
  • Bank transfers: 2-5 business days after approval.
  • Crypto: faster, depends on blockchain network.
  • Other programs: minimum 1% profit required per payout (resets after each payout).
  • Turbo accounts: minimum 5 trading days per payout (each ≥0.5% profit).
  • Vanguard (Instant Funding): minimum 5 trading days per payout (each ≥0.5% profit).
  • Horizon and Odyssey: first payout 14 days after the funded account starts, then every 14 days. At least 3% profit of the initial balance is required before each payout, including between payouts, together with the required valid trading days.
Alternative Currency
EUR, CZK, GBP, CAD, AUD, CHF
No data
Minimum Withdrawal
  • Bank transfer: $20
  • Crypto: $50
No data
Payout Fee
No data
  • Bank Transfer (recommended): $19.90 + 2.49%.
  • Cryptocurrency: $19.90 + 30% (higher due to limited UAE crypto liquidity).
  • Returned payouts: $30 reprocessing fee (covers real bank/admin cost of reprocessing; not a penalty).
Demo Account
No data
Metatrader 5
ID1293766PasswordUpcomers1.ServerUpcomers-Server
Crypto Weekend Trading
No data
Yes
Maximum Withdrawal
No data

Payout cap progresses with each approved withdrawal on the same funded account:

  • Payout #1: 1% of initial balance
  • Payout #2: 2%
  • Payout #3: 3%
  • Payout #4: 4%
  • Payout #5: 5%
  • Payout #6: 6%
  • Payout #7: account resets to initial balance with NO payout cap (unlimited from #8 onwards)
    Cap only increases after a FULLY approved withdrawal. Partial or declined payouts do not progress the cap.
Forex
  • Standard: 100:1
  • Swing: 30:1
100:1
Metals
  • Standard: 30:1
  • Swing: 9:1
30:1
Indices
  • Standard: 50:1
  • Swing: 15:1
30:1
Stocks
  • Standard: 3.33:1
  • Swing: 1:1
30:1
Crypto
  • Standard: 3.33:1
  • Swing: 1:1
30:1
Energies
No data
30:1
Forex
5 / lot
5 / lot
Metals
0.0014%
5 / lot
Indices
0
0
Stocks
0.004%
0
Crypto
0.065%
0.04%
Commission-Free Option
No
No
Energies
No data
0
Swap Free
No
Yes

All accounts are swap‑free

Add-ons
No
No
Instant
Yes
Yes
One Step
Yes
Yes
Account scaling
Yes

Requirements

  • Minimum of 4 months cycle
  • At least 10% total net simulated profit in the 4-months trading window, date to date
  • Process at least 2 rewards
  • Positive account balance at the time of scale-up

Benefits

  • Upgraded reward to 90%
  • $2M scale-up cap
  • Continuous increase when criteria are met
Yes

Scaling Plan for Thunderbolt and Vanguard accounts:

  • Apply every 4 consecutive months via help@upcomers.com.
  • +35% increase on simulated initial balance per cycle.
  • Maximum allocation scalable up to $4,000,000.
    Requirements per cycle:
  • ≥15% cumulative account growth across the 4 months.
  • ≥2 withdrawals completed in the 4-month period.
  • Final cycle must end in profit.
    Separate "4M on request" individual contract available after 6+ consecutive profitable months.
Two Steps
Yes
Yes
Max Drawdown
  • 1-Step: End-of-day trailing
  • 2-Step: Static
  • Instant: Intraday trailing on closed balance. It does not reset after a Reward withdrawal.

Current CFD programs use two systems:

  • Dynamic Risk Shield™: 6% on Ash and Thunderbolt, 10% on Phoenix Legacy, 8% on Vanguard, 5% on Oracle and 4% on Ember. It trails the equity high-water mark and locks at the initial balance where specified.
  • Static maximum loss: 6% on Phoenix Classic. The floor is fixed from the initial balance.
    Percentages and behavior are shown per phase in the challenge catalogue.
  • Horizon and Odyssey: Dynamic Risk Shield™ follows the highest equity, only moves upward and stops at the initial balance, in evaluation and funded phases.
Profit Split

90%

Standard profit split: 90%. A trader can select 80% or 100% at checkout; changing the split also changes the Challenge price. The selected split remains linked to that account, and older accounts retain their original conditions.

Free Trial
Yes
Yes
Daily Drawdown

Equity based

Resets daily at 00:00 UTC and is calculated under the rules of each program. Current limits:

  • Ash Classic/Turbo and Thunderbolt Classic/Turbo: 3%
  • Phoenix Classic: 4%
  • Phoenix Legacy: 5%
  • Vanguard and Oracle: 4%
  • Ember: no daily drawdown
  • Horizon: 3% and Odyssey: 4%, in evaluation and funded.
Three Steps
No
Yes
Max Allocation
400,000
1,500,000
Merge Accounts
Yes
No
Maximum Trading Days

Unlimited

Classic and Legacy challenges have no time limit. Ash Turbo and Thunderbolt Turbo have 30 calendar days and a maximum of 7 trading days.

Minimum Trading Days
  • 1-Step: 0 days
  • 2-Step Phase 1 and 2: 4 days
  • Instant: 0 days

No minimum trading days to pass the challenge in any Classic or Turbo program. Turbo challenges require only 1 trading day with real activity. For those programs, minimums apply only at the payout stage: see 'minimumProfitableDays'.
Horizon requires 2 valid trading days in its evaluation. Odyssey requires 2 valid trading days in each evaluation phase. A valid day earns at least 0.5% of the initial balance.

Monthly Competition
Yes
No
Account Reset
No data

Resets are offered as an alternative to full suspension after a rule violation. The account continues trading, but every future payout on that account is permanently capped at 50% of the approved amount.

Minimum Profitable Days
No data

Payout eligibility requirements (a valid day has at least 0.5% realized profit):

  • Vanguard, Oracle, Ember, Phoenix Legacy, Ash Turbo and Thunderbolt Turbo: 5 valid days
  • Ash Classic, Thunderbolt Classic and Phoenix Classic: no valid-day minimum
    The counter resets after each successful payout.
    Horizon funded accounts require per payout 3 valid days up to $50,000, 4 above $50,000 and below $200,000, and 5 from $200,000. Odyssey funded accounts require 3 below $100,000 and 4 from $100,000. Each valid day earns at least 0.5% of the initial balance.
Expert Advisor (EA)
Yes
Yes

Allowed, including third-party EAs, bots and trade or risk managers, as long as the trading rules are followed. HFT, tick scalping, latency arbitrage, emulators and running the same EA with the same settings as other traders are prohibited.

VPN
Yes
Limited

Not explicitly prohibited, but strongly discouraged. Use of VPN/VPS during KYC/AML verification is prohibited and can result in the account not being funded or being closed. If suspicious activity is detected, VPN usage will be used against the trader in the review.

Hedging
Yes
No

Prohibited, also within the same account and across multiple accounts.

Requires Stop Loss
No
No
Scalping
Yes
Yes
Stacking / Layering (DCA)
Yes
Yes

Multiple challenges and funded accounts combinable under a single user profile, as long as total funded capital does not exceed $1,500,000 across all Upcomers programs.

Maximum Risk Limit
No
Yes

Maximum loss per trade in the funded phase (all positions on the same instrument and direction count as one trade):

  • Ash Classic, Thunderbolt Classic and Phoenix Classic: 3%
  • Phoenix Legacy, Odyssey, Vanguard and Oracle: 2%
  • Ash Turbo, Thunderbolt Turbo, Horizon and Ember: 1.5%
    Exceeding the applicable limit is a hard breach.
Copy Trading
Yes
Limited

Only between accounts owned by the same person (Upcomers, other prop firms or brokers). Copying to or from other people's accounts and signal services are prohibited.

News Trading
Yes

Standard

Not allowed to execute any new trade or close an existing trade (including stop loss or take profit) on the targeted instrument in the window of 2 minutes before until 2 minutes after the release of the below news announcements.

Swing

No restrictions.

Yes
Inactivity Rule

30 days

35 consecutive calendar days without a trade closes the account automatically. Warning email sent 7 days before expiration.

Consistency Rule
Yes
  • 1-Step: To pass the FTMO Challenge: 1-Step or to be eligible for a Reward on an FTMO Account, your profit from the Best Day must not represent more than 50% of your total profit.
  • 2-Step: No consistency rule.
  • Instant: To be eligible for a Reward, your Best Day must not represent more than 30% of your total profit. The count restarts from zero after each Reward.
Limited

Consistency is checked at payout and does not breach the account:

  • 20% Best Day Rule: current Classic, Legacy and Turbo challenges, Vanguard, Oracle and Ember
    The Best Day cycle resets after each successful payout.
  • Horizon and Odyssey: no consistency or Best Day Rule in evaluation or funded accounts.
Hold Weekend
Limited

Standard

In an FTMO Challenge or Verification, you don't have to close your positions during the weekend. However, once you become an FTMO Trader and get an FTMO Account, you are required to close your positions just before the markets close for the weekend or if the rollover (market break) is longer than 2 hours.

Swing

No restrictions.

Yes
Prohibited Strategies
  • Overleveraging
  • Overexposure
  • One-sided bets
  • Account Rolling
  • Emulators, and running the same EA with the same settings as other traders to produce identical trades.
  • Tick scalping (trades held under 2 minutes on Oracle) and high-frequency trading (HFT).
  • Martingale, grid trading, one-sided bets, reverse trading and hedging (also within the same account).
  • News straddling (bracket orders placed around economic releases).
  • Signal services and copying trades from other people's accounts.
  • Team/group trading or executing identical trades across accounts to bypass the $1.5M cap.
  • Sharing passwords, account access or identity (KYC).
  • Exploiting platform bugs, delays or pricing errors.
  • Opening multiple user profiles (One Person, One Account policy).
  • Splitting trades intentionally to bypass the 20% Best Day Rule.
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