The short answer
Choose Funded Futures Family (FFF) if you want a high 90% profit split and the option to skip evaluations via "Straight to Funded" accounts. Pick Phidias if you require a static drawdown that never moves or need to hold positions over the weekend.
Where they actually differ
- Risk (Drawdown Type): Phidias offers an "Express to Live" plan with a static drawdown (it never trails). FFF uses End-of-Day or Intraday trailing drawdown depending on the chosen plan, which is more restrictive for capital preservation.
- Trading Styles (Holding Rules): Phidias (Premium plan) allows overnight and weekend holding. FFF requires all positions to be closed daily by 4:15 PM EST, with no weekend trading permitted.
- Payout (Profit Split): FFF offers a flat 90% split on simulated accounts. Phidias starts at 75-80% but scales up to 100% split on its Premium plan starting from the fifth payout.
- Risk (Hard Rules): FFF enforces a 20-second minimum hold rule (micro-scalping prohibited) and a 2% CME price limit rule. Phidias is more flexible with styles, allowing semi-automated software, but enforces a strict 30% consistency rule on its Fundamental/Premium CASH accounts.
- Platforms (Technology): Phidias supports a massive array of professional tools via Rithmic, including Bookmap, Jigsaw, and Sierra Chart. FFF is more retail-focused, supporting Tradovate, NinjaTrader, and TradingView.
- Price (Evaluation Path): FFF offers a "Straight to Funded" (S2F) option to bypass evaluations for a higher upfront fee ($329–$734). Phidias requires passing an evaluation, though its "Express to Live" path guarantees a LIVE account transition after reaching a target in the CASH phase.
Where they are basically the same
- Assets: Both firms focus exclusively on CME Futures (Indices, Commodities, Metals).
- Payout Methods: Both utilize Rise, Crypto, and Bank Transfers for withdrawals.
- Minimum Trading Days: Both offer "1-Day Pass" or 0-day minimum options on specific evaluation plans.
- Business Info: Both are relatively new firms (FFF 2024, Phidias 2023) with high Trustpilot engagement.
Pick this one if
Funded Futures Family
- You want the maximum profit split (90%) from the start.
- You want to buy a funded account directly (S2F) without an evaluation.
- You trade primarily via TradingView.
Phidias Propfirm
- You need a static drawdown to manage risk without trailing limits.
- You swing trade and need to hold positions over the weekend.
- You use advanced order flow platforms like Bookmap or Sierra Chart.
Frequently asked questions
Which firm offers a better drawdown structure, FFF or Phidias?
Phidias offers a superior drawdown structure for most traders through its Express to Live plan, which features a static drawdown that never moves up. In contrast, Funded Futures Family uses trailing drawdowns (either End-of-Day or Intraday) across its plans, meaning the risk limit follows your profit higher.
Can I hold positions over the weekend in FFF or Phidias?
You can only hold positions over the weekend in Phidias if you use their Premium plan. Funded Futures Family (FFF) strictly prohibits weekend holding and requires all traders to close positions every Friday by 4:15 PM EST.
Who provides a higher profit share, Funded Futures Family or Phidias?
Funded Futures Family (FFF) provides a higher initial share with a flat 90% profit split. Phidias starts lower at 75% or 80% depending on the plan, but it is the only one of the two that scales up to a 100% profit split for traders who reach their fifth payout on the Premium plan.
Which firm is better for TradingView users, FFF or Phidias?
Funded Futures Family (FFF) is more streamlined for TradingView users as it is a core supported platform across their plans. While Phidias also supports TradingView via its Tradovate integration, its ecosystem is more heavily geared toward professional Rithmic-based platforms like Sierra Chart and Bookmap.






















