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How much freedom you get at Funded Futures Family and Upcomers Futures

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Time limits

Funded Futures Family (FFF) does not pressure you with a maximum time to pass an evaluation, but it severely limits your access to capital through its payout requirements. You cannot simply reach a target and withdraw; you are forced to complete between 3 and 7 "Qualifying Trading Days" (days with at least $200 in realized profit) depending on the plan. Furthermore, you cannot leave the account idle: if you do not place at least one trade per week, or if you spend two consecutive weeks without activity, the account is closed without the possibility of restoration.

Upcomers Futures also avoids maximum time limits on its Classic accounts, but its inactivity rule is a clock that never stops. You cannot go 14 calendar days without closing a trade; if you do, the account is terminated. For those seeking instant funding (Vanguard), you are prohibited from withdrawing until you have completed 5 profitable days where each day earns at least 0.5% of the balance, preventing any "one-shot" withdrawal strategy.

Weekends and news

At Funded Futures Family, your freedom ends every Friday at 4:15 PM EST. You are strictly prohibited from holding positions over the weekend, and you must also close all trades daily before the same time. Although news trading is allowed, you are restricted by the "CME 2% Price Limit Rule," which prevents you from trading if a contract is within 2% of its limit, effectively locking you out during periods of extreme volatility.

Upcomers Futures is more permissive regarding schedule, allowing you to hold positions over the weekend. However, while news trading is permitted, you are restricted by a hard risk limit: you cannot lose more than 1.5% of the account size in a single open trade. This cap limits your ability to navigate the high volatility typical of news events if your stop loss is forced to be too tight.

Where you can trade from

Both firms impose significant geographical barriers. Funded Futures Family has an extensive list of over 30 banned countries, including many in Africa and Eastern Europe, as well as Venezuela and Vietnam. While they allow the use of VPNs or VPSs for trading, they strictly forbid using them to log into the user dashboard, which could lead to account flags.

Upcomers Futures also restricts access from countries like Russia, Iran, and Venezuela, and adds specific regions like Kosovo and Palestine to its prohibited list. Their policy on VPNs is more opaque, subjecting use to "general rules and identity verification," which creates uncertainty for traders who require these tools for connection stability.

What the platform limits

Funded Futures Family is extremely restrictive regarding trading style. You cannot use bots or any form of algorithmic trading. You are also prohibited from hedging, stacking positions, or copy trading. Even your manual trading is limited: if more than 50% of your profits come from trades lasting less than 20 seconds, you are violating the micro-scalping rule and your profits will be forfeited.

Upcomers Futures limits your technical environment by forcing you to use their own platform, Upcomers X. Unlike FFF, which allows industry standards like NinjaTrader or Tradovate, here you cannot leave their ecosystem. While they allow bots, they prohibit "mass-shared" strategies or any practice they deem to be "exploiting the simulated environment," a vague term that gives the firm broad discretion to cancel accounts.

What the rules cost you

In terms of risk, Funded Futures Family limits your "usable" balance through a mandatory buffer. You cannot withdraw your full profit; you must always leave a cushion equal to the drawdown level plus $100. This means a $50,000 account essentially has $1,600 that you can never touch. Additionally, the payout caps (limiting you to $1,000 - $3,500 per request in early stages) prevent you from scaling your lifestyle even if you have a massive winning month.

Upcomers Futures uses a real-time trailing drawdown, the most restrictive type, which follows your peak balance even during an open trade. This reduces your breathing room as you accumulate unrealized profits. Furthermore, the "20% Best Day Rule" is a major hurdle for withdrawals: no single day can account for more than 20% of your total profit. If you have one exceptionally good day, you are forced to keep trading and winning more just to be eligible for a payout.

Restrictions that add up

The combined effect of these rules creates a high-pressure environment. At Funded Futures Family, the prohibition of EAs, the 20-second minimum trade duration, and the requirement for $200+ profit days create a "quality control" filter that forces you to trade a specific way, punishing fast scalpers. At Upcomers Futures, the 20% consistency rule combined with the 1.5% maximum risk per trade forces you into a grind where you cannot have large winners but also cannot take large risks, essentially trapping you in a very narrow performance corridor to reach a withdrawal.

Frequently asked questions

Which firm is cheaper to start a 50K account, Funded Futures Family or Upcomers Futures?

Funded Futures Family is significantly cheaper for an initial attempt, with its 50K Premier EOD plan costing $194 per month. In contrast, Upcomers Futures requires a one-time payment of $827.20 for its Thunderbolt Classic 50K account (at a 90% profit split). While FFF uses a recurring subscription model, the entry barrier is much lower than the upfront cost at Upcomers.

Which firm has stricter consistency rules for withdrawals, Funded Futures Family or Upcomers Futures?

Upcomers Futures is much stricter, imposing a 20% Best Day Rule, meaning your most profitable day cannot represent more than one-fifth of your total gains. Funded Futures Family is more flexible, with consistency rules ranging from 40% to 50% depending on the account type and the number of payouts already received.

Can I use trading bots or EAs in Funded Futures Family or Upcomers Futures?

You cannot use them at Funded Futures Family, as bots and algorithmic trading are strictly prohibited. At Upcomers Futures, they are allowed as long as the strategy is unique and not mass-shared, although they forbid specific types like HFT or latency arbitrage.

Which firm has a more restrictive drawdown system, Funded Futures Family or Upcomers Futures?

Upcomers Futures is generally more restrictive because it uses a real-time trailing drawdown (4% on Classic), which moves up with your unrealized profits during a trade. Funded Futures Family offers many plans with End-of-Day (EOD) drawdown, which only updates at the close of the market, giving the trader more intraday room to navigate volatility.

Field by field

Funded Futures Family and Upcomers Futures, side by side

Rules, plans, platforms, leverage, commissions and payouts of both, with the option to see only what differs.

Head to head

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Headquarters

28780 Single Oak Dr, 325, Temecula, California 92590, US

Building A1, IFZA Business Park, Dubai Silicon Oasis, Dubai, United Arab Emirates

CEO

Manuel Meraz

Jakub Zeliska

Country

United States

United Arab Emirates

Foundation

2024

2023

Banned Countries
Afghanistan, Central African Republic, Congo (Brazzaville), Cuba, Democratic People's Republic of Korea (North Korea), Democratic Republic of the Congo, Guinea, Guam, Haiti, Iran, Iraq, Libya, Mali, Puerto Rico, Russian Federation, Somalia, South Sudan, Sudan, Syria, Ukraine, United States Virgin Islands, Venezuela, Yemen, Ethiopia, Mauritius, Mongolia, Montenegro, Papua New Guinea, Sri Lanka, Trinidad and Tobago, Tunisia, Uganda, Vietnam, Zimbabwe
Afghanistan, Central African Republic, Crimea, Donetsk and Luhansk regions of Ukraine, Cuba, Iran, Iraq, Kosovo, Libya, Mali, Myanmar, North Korea, Palestine, Russia, Somalia, South Sudan, Sudan, Syria, Vanuatu, Venezuela
Assets
Indices, Commodities
Equity Indexes, Metals, Energy, Currencies, Rates, Grains, Livestock, Crypto
Brokers
Tradovate, Rithmic, NinjaTrader
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Payout Fee
No data

Bank transfer: USD 19.90 + 2.49%. Crypto: USD 19.90 + 30%; reduced to USD 19.90 + 2.49% when more than 50% of the trader's purchases were paid in crypto.

Platforms
Tradovate, NinjaTrader, Tradingview, WealthCharts
Upcomers X, Volumetrica
Payout Methods
Transfer, Crypto, Rise
Bank Transfer, Crypto
Live Account
Yes

Professional Stage accounts use real capital. Pro environment runs on Tradovate; Live Market Execution environment runs on Rithmic.

No

Futures accounts are simulated (sim-funded).

Payment Methods
Card, Crypto, PayPal
Card, Crypto, PayPal, Apple Pay, Google Pay
Payout Frequency

Simulated Funded Accounts

  • Prime: Every 3 trading days
  • Classic: Every 7 trading days
  • Premier / Elite: Every 5 trading days
  • Velocity Standard: Every 3 trading days
  • Velocity Daily Payout Add-On: Daily (1x per day)
  • Straight To Funded (S2F): Every 7 trading days
  • S2F Accelerate: Eligible for payout after 5 trading days
  • Base Plan: Daily (1x per trading day)

Professional Stage Accounts

  • Daily withdrawal requests permitted.

Lab Plans

  • Lab Sniper 25K: daily payouts once eligible.
  • Lab Accelerate 25K: 5 qualifying days per payout.
  • Lab Payday 50K: 7 qualifying days per payout.

Classic: whenever the conditions are met. Vanguard: after 5 qualifying days for the first payout. Upcomers states same-day processing after approval.

Maximum Withdrawal

Simulated Funded Accounts: Max Payout Per Request

  • Prime: Payout 1 ($1,000-$3,500), Payout 2+ ($1,500-$4,000)
  • Classic: Payout 1 ($1,750-$3,000), Payout 2+ ($2,000-$6,000)
  • Premier / Elite: Payout 1 ($1,750-$3,000), Payout 2+ ($2,000-$6,500)
  • Velocity Standard: $750-$3,250 per request
  • Velocity Daily Payout Add-On: $600-$2,500 per request
  • S2F: Payout 1 ($1,000-$3,000), Payout 2+ ($1,000-$3,500)
  • S2F Accelerate $50K: Payout 1 ($1,250), Payout 2 ($1,250), Payout 3+ ($1,500)
  • Base Plan: $1,000 per request

Professional Stage Accounts

  • No maximum withdrawal amount, limited only by available profits above the required buffer.

Lab Plans

  • Sniper 25K: payouts 1-2 up to $500 each; payout 3 onward up to $1,000 each.
  • Accelerate 25K: up to $500 per payout.
  • Payday 50K: payouts 1-2 up to $1,000 each; payout 3 onward up to $1,250 each.

Classic (payouts 1–5): 25K 500/1,000/1,500/1,500/1,500; 50K 800/1,600/2,400/3,000/3,000; 100K 1,400/2,800/4,200/5,000/6,000; 150K 2,000/4,000/5,000/5,000/9,000; 200K 2,600/5,000/5,000/5,000/12,000; 300K 3,700/5,000/5,000/5,000/18,000; 400K 4,700/5,000/5,000/5,000/23,500 USD. Vanguard (payouts 1–7): 25K 500/1,000/1,500/1,500/1,500/1,500/1,500; 50K 1,000/2,000/3,000/3,000/3,000/3,000/3,000; 100K 1,600/3,200/4,800/5,000/6,000/6,000/6,000; 150K 1,900/3,800/5,000/5,000/9,000/9,000/9,000; 200K 2,300/4,600/5,000/5,000/11,500/12,000/12,000; 300K 3,100/5,000/5,000/5,000/15,500/18,000/18,000 USD. The checkout sells Vanguard 400K, but the current public table does not yet publish its cap; confirm with support.

Minimum Withdrawal
  • Base Plan: $500.
  • Other plans: $250.

USD 100.

Other Payout Requirements

Base Plan

  • No qualifying trading days required
  • Keep at least $4,000 after withdrawal
  • Earn at least $1 in new net profit between payouts

Lab Plans

  • Sniper 25K: $2,500 profit required between payouts.
  • Payday 50K: $3,000 profit required between payouts.

Realized profit and all positions closed; at least 1% profit since the previous payout. 20% Best Day Rule. Before the first payout, Vanguard requires 5 profitable days with at least 0.5% profit each.

Commission

Commission depends on the trading platform used

  • NinjaTrader: standard NinjaTrader/CME exchange and clearing fees apply. Check NinjaTrader's commission schedule for exact rates per contract.
  • Tradovate: standard Tradovate platform and exchange fees apply. See Tradovate's pricing page for per-contract rates.
  • TradingView (via Tradovate): fees are determined by the connected broker (Tradovate). Refer to Tradovate for exact rates.
  • WealthCharts: standard exchange and clearing fees apply. Verify with WealthCharts for specific per-contract pricing.
No data
Account Reset

Evaluation Accounts

  • Unlimited resets at discounted fees. Fees vary by plan and account size.

Simulated Funded Accounts

  • Maximum of 3 resets per funded account.
    Lab Straight to Funded accounts cannot be reset.
Limited

Resets are available when offered by Upcomers. A rule-violation reset permanently limits future payouts on that account to 50%.

Add-ons
Yes

Daily Payout Add-On available for Velocity Plan: enables daily payout requests (1x per day) with no consistency rule and no minimum trading day requirement.
Velocity EOD Drawdown Add-On: evaluation only. Fees: 25K $30; 50K $50; 100K $80; 150K $110. Funded drawdown remains intraday.

No
Instant
Yes
Yes

Vanguard offers instant funding with no evaluation.

One Step
Yes
Yes

Thunderbolt Classic is a one-step evaluation with a 6% target.

Account scaling
Yes

Scaling plan applies to Simulated Funded and Professional Stage accounts. In Sim Funded, position size increases with realized profit (end-of-day). In Professional Stage, scaling is decided case-by-case by the Live Desk based on EOD realized results.
Lab Sniper 25K and Accelerate 25K have fixed position limits and no scaling plan. Lab Payday 50K has a scaling plan.

Yes

+35% every 4 months, up to USD 4,000,000, with 15% cumulative growth, at least 2 payouts and a positive final cycle.

Max Drawdown

Evaluation Phase

  • Prime / Classic / Premier EOD: End-of-Day trailing drawdown based on realized gains.
  • Elite / Premier Intraday: Intraday trailing drawdown based on unrealized gains.
  • S2F Standard: End-of-Day drawdown.
  • S2F Accelerate: Intraday trailing drawdown with no ceiling.
  • Velocity: Intraday trailing drawdown; optional EOD drawdown during evaluation.
  • Base Plan: $2,000 End-of-Day trailing drawdown based on the highest End-of-Day balance.

Simulated Funded Phase

  • Velocity: Intraday trailing drawdown, including accounts with the evaluation EOD Add-On.
  • End-of-Day drawdown on all plans except Velocity, S2F Accelerate and Base Plan. Except for Lab Sniper 25K, once an End-of-Day account reaches the buffer zone (e.g., $52,000 for $50K account), the drawdown becomes static at the initial balance.
  • S2F Accelerate: Intraday trailing drawdown with no ceiling.
  • Base Plan: $2,000 intraday trailing drawdown that locks once the account reaches $2,000 in profit.

Professional Stage

  • End-of-Position (EoP) drawdown: adjusts only when a position is closed in profit. Drawdown locks at a static threshold once fully recovered (e.g., $50,100 for $50K account).

Lab Plans, Straight to Funded

  • Sniper 25K: EOD trailing drawdown that never locks.
  • Accelerate 25K: intraday trailing drawdown that never locks.
  • Payday 50K: EOD trailing drawdown locks at the initial balance once the EOD balance reaches the initial balance plus the maximum drawdown.

Real-time trailing: 4% on Classic and 3% on Vanguard. It locks at the initial balance after the account grows by that same percentage.

Profit Split

Simulated Funded Accounts

  • 90% trader / 10% firm

Professional Stage Accounts

  • 80% trader / 20% firm

90% selected for these prices. Checkout also allows 80% or 100%, adjusting the price.

Free Trial
No
Limited

Thunderbolt Classic includes an optional Trial Phase; Vanguard has no evaluation.

Daily Drawdown

Evaluation & Simulated Funded Accounts

  • Except for Lab Payday 50K, no explicit daily loss limit (DLL) during evaluation or simulated funded phase. However, the 2% CME price limit rule applies.

Professional Stage Accounts

  • Daily Loss Limit (DLL) applies and is tied to the current scaling tier.

Lab Plans

  • Sniper 25K and Accelerate 25K: no daily loss limit.
  • Payday 50K: a daily loss limit applies; exceeding it is a hard breach. The amount is shown in the challenge catalogue.

Classic: 3% in evaluation and 2% when funded. Vanguard: 2%. Resets at 5:00 PM ET.

Max Allocation

Up to 4 Simm Funded Accounts

1,500,000
Mandatory buffer
Limited

Classic / Premier / Elite / S2F Standard / Velocity: Buffer Required

  • A buffer must be maintained at all times. The account balance cannot drop below the buffer level after withdrawal. The buffer equals the drawdown level + $100.

Base Plan

  • Keep at least $4,000 in the account after every payout.

Premier Plus (accounts purchased after 4/7/26)

  • No buffer requirement. Net profit rule applies: account must have at least $1 more than the balance requested previously.

Lab Accelerate 25K

  • $1,100 payout buffer; only profits above this buffer can be requested.
No
Merge Accounts
No
No data
Maximum Trading Days

No time limit. Traders can take as long as needed to meet the profit target.

No time limit to pass Classic; all futures accounts close after 14 calendar days without closing a trade.

Minimum Trading Days
  • Classic Evaluation: Minimum 2 trading days to pass.
  • Prime: Minimum 1 trading day to pass. Standard and Max differ only in position limits and price.
  • Premier: Choose a 1-Day Pass or 2-Day Pass at checkout. The selected minimum applies to the evaluation.
  • Elite: Minimum 1 trading day to pass.
  • Velocity: Minimum 3 trading days to pass; no minimum with the Daily Payout Add-On.
  • Funded payouts: 7 qualifying trading days ($200+ profit) for Classic / Premier / Elite / S2F Standard. 3 qualifying days for Prime. 5 qualifying days for Premier Plus accounts purchased after April 7, 2026.
  • Lab Sniper 25K, Accelerate 25K and Payday 50K bypass evaluation. Their funded payout day requirements are listed under minimum profitable days.

Classic can be passed in 1 day. Vanguard has no evaluation.

Funded Phase Pricing Model

No subscription fee on funded accounts. No activation fee on Prime, Premier, and Velocity. Classic and Base Plan have an activation fee.
Lab Sniper 25K, Accelerate 25K and Payday 50K use a one-time purchase fee with no activation or recurring funded fee.

No activation fee or recurring platform/data subscription stated by Upcomers.

Minimum Profitable Days

Payout Requirements (Simulated Funded)

  • Except for plans without a qualifying-day requirement, each payout cycle requires a minimum number of qualifying trading days with at least $200 realized profit per day.
  • Classic / Premier / Elite / S2F Standard: 7 qualifying days per payout.
  • Prime: 3 qualifying days per payout.
  • Premier Plus (after 4/7/26): 5 qualifying days per payout.
  • Velocity: 3 qualifying days per payout, each with at least $200 profit; no qualifying-day minimum with the Daily Payout Add-On.
  • S2F Accelerate 50K: 5 qualifying days per payout, each with at least $200 profit.

Professional Stage

  • A Qualified Trading Day is defined as a day with at least $200 in realized profit, used to determine withdrawal stage eligibility.

Lab Plans

  • Sniper 25K: no qualifying-day minimum; payout profit requirements still apply.
  • Accelerate 25K: 5 qualifying days per payout, each with at least $200 profit.
  • Payday 50K: 7 qualifying days per payout, each with at least $200 profit.

Vanguard requires 5 days with at least 0.5% profit each before the first payout; they do not need to be consecutive.

Position size scaling
Yes

Scaling applies to Simulated Funded and S2F Standard accounts based on end-of-day realized profit. Position size increases progressively as profit thresholds are met. S2F Accelerate does not use a scaling plan.

Premier Plus Simulated Funded

  • Accounts purchased before September 9, 2026 use the legacy scaling plan, with maximums of 3 minis / 30 micros on 25K, 5 / 50 on 50K, 10 / 100 on 100K and 15 / 150 on 150K.
  • Accounts purchased from September 9, 2026 have fixed maximums of 2 minis / 20 micros on 25K, 4 / 40 on 50K, 6 / 60 on 100K and 10 / 100 on 150K.

Base Plan Simulated Funded

  • Position size changes with the account balance after trades are closed. $1,000 allows 1 mini / 10 micros, $2,000 allows 2 / 20 and $4,000 allows 4 / 40, up to 15 minis / 150 micros.

Lab Plans

  • Sniper 25K and Accelerate 25K: no position size scaling.
  • Payday 50K: position size scaling applies.
No

The contract limit depends on account size and does not drop after funding.

Evaluation Phase Pricing Model

Monthly subscription for Prime, Premier (Intraday and EOD), Velocity, and Classic. Base Plan uses a one-time evaluation fee. Straight To Funded (S2F) uses a one-time fee and bypasses evaluation.

One-time payment based on program, size and profit split. The table shows the regular 90% price before any promotional code.

Maximum Accounts
No data

No fixed account-count limit; total funded capital cannot exceed USD 1,500,000 across all Upcomers programs.

Expert Advisor (EA)
No
Limited

Bots and automation are allowed when the strategy is unique and responsible; no HFT, tick scalping, arbitrage, feed abuse or mass-shared strategies.

VPN
Yes

VPNs and VPSs are allowed for trading activities on the trading platform. They must not be used to access or log in to the FFF account dashboard. Use is at the trader's own discretion and risk.

Limited

Upcomers' general VPN/VPS and identity-verification rules apply.

Hedging
No
Limited

Allowed within the same account; coordinating opposite positions across accounts or people to bypass rules is prohibited.

Requires Stop Loss
No
No
Scalping
Yes
Limited

Normal scalping is allowed; tick scalping and latency exploitation are prohibited.

Stacking / Layering (DCA)
No
Yes
Martingale
No data
No
Maximum Risk Limit
No
Yes

Hard maximum loss of 1.5% of account size per open trade. Positions in the same instrument and direction count as one trade.

Copy Trading
No
Limited

Allowed between your own accounts; prohibited between different people.

News Trading
Yes
Yes
Inactivity Rule

At least 1 trade per week (Monday-Friday) lasting minimum 10 seconds is required per account. Accounts idle for 2 consecutive weeks are marked inactive and automatically closed without restoration.

Yes

Automatic closure after 14 calendar days without closing a trade; the clock starts at purchase and resets with every closed trade.

Consistency Rule
Limited

Classic Evaluation

  • 50% consistency rule applies: no more than 50% of the total profit target can be achieved in a single day.

Base Plan

  • Evaluation: 40% consistency rule.
  • Simulated Funded: no consistency rule.

Simulated Funded Accounts (Classic / Premier / Elite / S2F / Velocity: before 4/7/26)

  • Payouts 1-3: 40% maximum per trading day
  • Payouts 4-5: 45% maximum per trading day
  • Payouts 6+: 50% maximum per trading day

S2F

  • Standard: 25% daily consistency applies.
  • Accelerate 50K: 25% lifetime consistency applies.

Prime Simulated Funded

  • 40% consistency per payout cycle; resets after a payout.

Premier Plus Simulated Funded

  • Accounts purchased before September 9, 2026: no consistency rule.
  • Accounts purchased from September 9, 2026: 40% consistency rule.
  • Promotional giveaway accounts: 40% consistency rule.

Professional Stage

  • No consistency rule.

Lab Plans

  • Sniper 25K: no consistency rule.
  • Accelerate 25K: 25% consistency requirement.
  • Payday 50K: 40% consistency requirement.

Velocity

  • Evaluation and Simulated Funded: 40% lifetime consistency. No consistency rule with the Daily Payout Add-On.

Premier+ Evaluation

  • No consistency rule on FastPass or Standard evaluations.
Yes

20% Best Day Rule: the best day cannot represent more than 20% of total profit when requesting a payout.

Hold Weekend
No
Yes
Prohibited Strategies
  • Bots / algorithmic trading
  • Hedging
  • Trading within 2% of CME price limits
  • Straddles / strangles exploiting news volatility
  • Excessive Dollar Cost Averaging (DCA) into losing positions
  • Micro-scalping: over 50% of trades and over 50% of profits must come from positions held longer than 20 seconds
  • Unauthorized group trading / signal services

HFT, tick scalping, arbitrage or latency abuse, feed/price abuse, mass-shared strategies, martingale, account rolling and any practice designed to exploit the simulated environment.

Overnight positions
Yes

Overnight trading is allowed. All positions must be closed by 4:15 PM EST daily (automatic close if not closed manually). Trading resumes at 6:00 PM EST. Weekend trading is not permitted; all positions must be closed before Friday 4:15 PM EST.

Yes
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