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Which is better for your first challenge: FTMO Futures or forTraders Futures?

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What you are signing up for

In the world of prop trading, an evaluation is an audition where you pay a fee to prove you can manage risk. If you reach the profit target—a specific amount of money you must earn without breaking rules—the firm gives you access to a simulated or live account where you keep most of the gains.

  • FTMO Futures uses a monthly subscription model. For a $50,000 account (Growth plan), you pay $119 every month until you pass or cancel.
  • forTraders Futures uses a one-time fee for its evaluations. A $25,000 account (Fast plan) costs $139, while a $50,000 account costs $199.

Neither firm offers a free trial, so your first payment is real.

How hard each one is

The biggest hurdle for a beginner is the drawdown, which is the maximum loss allowed before your account is closed.

  • FTMO Futures uses an "End-of-day trailing drawdown." This means your loss limit only moves up at the end of the trading day based on your highest closing balance. It stops moving once it reaches your starting balance.
  • forTraders Futures also uses trailing drawdown, but the rules vary. In the Fast Pro plan, it is also end-of-day. In the Instant plan, it is a fixed 5% of your equity.

FTMO Pro accounts have a "hard daily loss limit." If you lose $1,000 in one day on a 50K account, the account is terminated instantly. In the Growth plan, this is a "soft limit," meaning they just close your trades and pause you until the next day.

How long it takes

Both firms have removed the maximum time limit, so you can trade as slowly as you need as long as you pay the fee (in FTMO's case).

  • FTMO has no fixed minimum trading days. However, you must satisfy a consistency rule, which usually requires trading over several days.
  • forTraders requires 5 profitable days for its Fast model and 7 profitable days for its Instant model before you can move forward.

Where beginners fail

Most beginners fail because of the consistency rule. This rule ensures your success isn't just one lucky trade.

  • In FTMO, your best trading day cannot represent more than 40% (Growth) or 50% (Pro) of your total profit.
  • In forTraders, the limit is also 40% for Fast accounts. If you make too much in one day, you have to keep trading to earn more profit and balance the percentages.

Another trap is the schedule. FTMO does not allow holding positions over the weekend or overnight. All trades must be closed before the market shuts. forTraders is more flexible and allows you to hold positions during the weekend.

What happens if you make it

Once you pass, you receive a "funded" account.

  • Profit Split: This is your share of the earnings. FTMO gives you 90%, while forTraders gives you 80%.
  • Platforms: FTMO offers industry standards like NinjaTrader, Tradovate, and TradingView. forTraders uses its own proprietary platform, For Traders X.
  • Withdrawals: FTMO allows withdrawals on demand once you meet the minimum profitable day requirements. forTraders offers a 48-hour payout guarantee; if they are late, they increase your profit split to 100% for that payout.

If it is your first time

If you are a complete beginner, FTMO Futures is the safer recommendation. Although it requires a monthly subscription, its "Growth" plan has soft daily limits that don't kill your account for a single day's mistake. Additionally, being able to use TradingView or NinjaTrader provides a much more professional learning environment than a proprietary platform.

However, if you cannot trade during the day and need to leave trades open overnight or through the weekend, forTraders is your only real option between these two.

Frequently asked questions

Which firm is cheaper to start a $50,000 evaluation, FTMO or forTraders?

FTMO Futures is cheaper initially, costing $119 for a 50K Growth account, but this is a monthly subscription. forTraders Futures charges a one-time fee of $199 for its 50K Fast account. If you pass in less than a month, FTMO is cheaper; if you take three months, forTraders becomes more economical.

Does FTMO or forTraders offer a higher profit share for the trader?

FTMO Futures offers a higher profit split, allowing traders to keep 90% of the profits they generate. forTraders Futures offers an 80% profit split across all its futures products, although this can increase through their loyalty program or if they fail their 48-hour payout guarantee.

Which firm has stricter consistency rules for beginners, FTMO or forTraders?

For evaluation accounts, they are similar: both FTMO (Growth) and forTraders (Fast) require that your best day is less than 40% of your total profit. However, forTraders is much stricter in its "Instant" model, where the best day cannot exceed 15% of the total profit, making it harder to stay compliant.

Can I use TradingView to trade with both FTMO and forTraders?

No, you can only use TradingView with FTMO Futures through their integration with Tradovate. forTraders Futures requires you to use their proprietary platform called For Traders X, which does not currently support external connections to TradingView or NinjaTrader.

Field by field

forTraders Futures and FTMO Futures, side by side

Rules, plans, platforms, leverage, commissions and payouts of both, with the option to see only what differs.

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Headquarters

Goldcrest Executive Building, Office No. 1210, JLT, Cluster C, Dubai, United Arab Emirates

Praga 1, Calle Purkynova 2121/3, 110 00, Czech Republic

CEO

Jakub Rož

Otakar Suffner

Country

United Arab Emirates

Czech Republic

Foundation

2023

2015

Banned Countries
Pakistan, Iran, Syria, Myanmar, Bangladesh, North Korea, Russian Federation, Belarus, Cuba, Lebanon, Libya, Sudan, United States, United Arab Emirates
Afghanistan, Albania, Angola, Anguilla, Antarctica, Antigua and Barbuda, Australia, Barbados, Belarus, Belize, Bhutan, Bouvet Island, Burkina Faso, Burundi, Cape Verde, Central African Republic, Chad, China, Christmas Island, Cocos (Keeling) Islands, Comoros, Congo (Republic), Cook Islands, Côte d’Ivoire, Cuba, Djibouti, Dominica, Equatorial Guinea, Eritrea, Eswatini, Falkland Islands, Fiji, Gabon, Gambia, Ghana, Grenada, Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, Guyana, Heard and McDonald Islands, Holy See (Vatican City State), Indonesia, Iran, Iraq, Jordan, Kazakhstan, Kenya, Kiribati, Kosovo, Kyrgyzstan, Laos, Lesotho, Liberia, Libya, Malawi, Mali, Marshall Islands, Mauritania, Mayotte, Micronesia, Monaco, Montserrat, Myanmar, Namibia, Nauru, Niger, Niue, North Korea, Papua New Guinea, Russian Federation, Rwanda, Saint Barthélemy, Saint Kitts and Nevis, Saint Lucia, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, Samoa, San Marino, Sao Tome and Principe, Seychelles, Sierra Leone, Solomon Islands, Somalia, South Georgia and South Sandwich Islands, South Sudan, Sri Lanka, Sudan, Suriname, Svalbard and Jan Mayen, Syria, Tajikistan, Timor-Leste, Togo, Tokelau, Tonga, Tunisia, Turkmenistan, Tuvalu, Ukraine, Uzbekistan, Vanuatu, Venezuela, Vietnam, Western Sahara, Yemen, United States — Arkansas, United States — Delaware, United States — Louisiana, United States — Montana, United States — South Carolina
Assets
Futures
Commodities, Indices, Crypto, Forex
Brokers

Proprietary platform For Traders X. Liquidity provider not publicly disclosed.

Tradovate
Refund
No

No traditional refund. No activation fee after passing Fast/Fast Pro.

No data
Payout Fee
  • Crypto ($100 – $499): $25
  • Rise $500 or more: $50
No data
Platforms
For Traders X
NinjaTrader, Tradovate, Tradingview
Payout Methods
Transfer, Crypto, Rise
Wise, Revolut, Visa Direct, Mastercard Send
Payment Methods
Card, Crypto, Transfer
Card, ApplePay, GooglePay, PayPal, Revolut, Skrill, Crypto, Transfer
Payout Frequency
  • Futures Fast: on-demand (after 5 profitable days and offsetting trailing drawdown)
  • Futures Instant: on-demand (after 7 profitable days)
  • Futures Fast Pro: on-demand (after 1 profitable day, balance > $52K)

On demand once the qualifying-day requirements for the current payout cycle are met.

Payout Guarantee

48 hours: if not paid within 48h, 100% profit split

No data
Minimum Withdrawal
  • Minimum: $100 in wallet
  • Maximum per cycle by product:
    · Futures Fast 25K: $800
    · Futures Fast 50K: $1,500
    · Futures Fast 100K: $2,500
    · Futures Instant 25K: $1,500
    · Futures Instant 50K: $3,000
    · Futures Instant 100K: $4,500
    · Futures Fast Pro 50K: $250-$1,200 per cycle, final $10,000 (max 5 withdrawals)

$20

Live Account
No data
Limited

A small group of consistently profitable traders may be invited to a Live Funded Account at FTMO's discretion. It cannot be requested and additional country restrictions apply.

Maximum Withdrawal
No data

Growth — per payout

  • $50K: up to 50% of available profit, capped at $2,500
  • $100K: up to 50% of available profit, capped at $3,000
  • $150K: up to 50% of available profit, capped at $4,000

Pro — per payout

  • $50K: up to 100% of available profit, capped at $5,000
  • $100K: up to 100% of available profit, capped at $6,000
  • $150K: up to 100% of available profit, capped at $8,000
Other Payout Requirements
No data

At least 50% of every requested payout must come from new profit generated during the current payout cycle. US clients must submit Form W-9 and proof of ownership of an eligible US bank account before their first payout.

Futures

Per-contract margins set by underlying instrument. Position size capped per account size.

No data
Futures
0.2
No data
Swap Free
No
No data
Add-ons
No
No
Instant
Yes
No
One Step
Yes
Yes
Account scaling
Yes

Scaling unlocked through the Loyalty Program (5 tiers: Starter, Rising Star, Pro, VIP, Legend). Increments depend on tier. Applies to all account types.

No
Two Steps
No
No data
Max Drawdown
  • Futures Fast: $1,000 (25K) / $2,000 (50K) / $2,500 (100K), trailing
  • Futures Fast Pro: $2,000 EOD trailing (50K)
  • Futures Instant: 5% EOD trailing

End-of-day trailing drawdown based on the highest closing balance. It can only move upward and locks permanently once it reaches the initial account balance.

Profit Split

All futures products: 80%

90%

Free Trial
No
No
Daily Drawdown
  • Futures Fast: none
  • Futures Fast Pro: $1,000 (50K)
  • Futures Instant: 3% from highest day equity
  • Growth Evaluation: none
  • Growth Sim-Funded: soft limit of $1,000 / $2,000 / $3,000 on 50K / 100K / 150K; positions close and trading pauses until the next day
  • Pro Evaluation and Sim-Funded: hard limit of $1,000 / $1,500 / $2,000 on 50K / 100K / 150K; breach terminates the account
Three Steps
No
No data
Max Allocation

$300,000 combined across all Master Accounts and Instant Models (Forex + Crypto + Futures shared cap). No allocation limit during Challenge phase.

450,000
Mandatory buffer
No

No mandatory buffer. Instead, when you request a payout your maximum trailing drawdown locks at your starting balance.

Limited

Growth allows withdrawing up to 50% of available profit per cycle, leaving the remainder in the account. Pro allows up to 100%, subject to its payout cap.

Merge Accounts
No
No
Maximum Trading Days

No time limit on any futures account.

Unlimited while the monthly subscription remains active.

Monthly Competition
Yes
No data
Minimum Profitable Days
  • Futures Fast Challenge: 5 profitable days before reward request
  • Futures Fast Pro: 1 profitable day per reward request (50K)
  • Futures Instant: 7 profitable days

Growth payout eligibility

  • $50K: 4 days with at least $150 closed profit per day
  • $100K: 4 days with at least $250 closed profit per day
  • $150K: 4 days with at least $300 closed profit per day

Pro payout eligibility

  • $50K: 5 days with at least $200 closed profit per day
  • $100K: 5 days with at least $300 closed profit per day
  • $150K: 5 days with at least $500 closed profit per day
Account Reset
No data

Evaluation accounts can be reset to their original conditions without changing the monthly billing date. There is no limit on purchased resets.

Maximum Accounts
No data

Unlimited concurrent Evaluations. Maximum 3 concurrent Sim-Funded Accounts across Growth and Pro.

Minimum Trading Days
No data

No fixed minimum. The Evaluation must satisfy its consistency rule, which can require multiple trading days.

Funded Phase Pricing Model
No data

No activation fee and no recurring charge on Sim-Funded or Live Funded Accounts.

Position size scaling
No data
Yes

Sim-Funded Accounts start with 2, 4 or 6 mini contracts on the 50K, 100K and 150K sizes. The limit scales with end-of-day profit up to 5, 10 or 15 minis respectively. Ten micros count as one mini.

Evaluation Phase Pricing Model
No data

Monthly subscription. Market data is included and there is no activation fee. After a hard breach, the trader can buy a reset or wait for the next renewal to receive a fresh Evaluation.

Expert Advisor (EA)
No

EAs allowed only as decision-support tools (alerts, partial management, predefined rules). Fully autonomous trading bots are prohibited.

Yes

Algorithmic trading and EAs are allowed, but manipulative automation, high-frequency strategies and latency arbitrage are prohibited. Third-party EAs can cause duplicated-strategy issues.

VPN
Yes
Yes

VPN and VPS use is allowed if the trader remains the sole controller of the account and does not reside in a restricted country.

Hedging
No

Cross-account hedging is forbidden.

Limited

Opposing positions may be used within one account. Hedging or offsetting directional risk across different accounts, providers or people is prohibited.

Requires Stop Loss
No
No
Scalping
Yes

Manual scalping allowed with minimum 5-second hold per trade. Tick scalping and HFT forbidden.

Yes

Scalping is allowed when it reflects legitimate market trading. High-frequency and latency-arbitrage strategies are prohibited.

Stacking / Layering (DCA)
Yes
No data
Martingale
No

Martingale strategies are forbidden.

No data
Maximum Risk Limit
Yes

Position size capped by contract count per account (see Max Allocation).

Limited

No fixed percentage is published, but overleveraging, one-sided bets and materially inconsistent position sizing can lead to account action or termination.

Copy Trading
No

Outbound copy allowed; inbound copy from external sources forbidden.

Limited

Copying between accounts owned by the same trader is allowed. Copying signals or decisions from another trader or third party is prohibited.

News Trading
Yes

News trading allowed without restrictions on Futures accounts.

Yes
Inactivity Rule
  • Futures Fast Challenge: 7 days
  • Futures Fast Master: 14 days
  • Futures Fast Pro Challenge: 7 days / Master: 14 days
  • Futures Instant: 7 days

Days counted from the moment a position is CLOSED, not opened. Minimal 0.01-lot trades to game the rule don't count.

Sim-Funded Accounts receive a warning after 30 consecutive inactive days and close after a further 30 inactive days. Live Funded Accounts have no inactivity rule.

Consistency Rule
Yes
  • Futures Fast Challenge: best day's profit must be < 40% of total accumulated profit. No consistency target on Master.
  • Futures Fast Pro Challenge: same 40% rule.
  • Futures Instant: best day cannot exceed 15% of total profit.
  • Calculation: Best Day Profit / 0.40 = Minimum required total profit.
Limited
  • Growth Evaluation: the best day cannot exceed 40% of total profit
  • Pro Evaluation: the best day cannot exceed 50% of total profit
  • Sim-Funded: no consistency rule
Hold Weekend
Yes

Weekend holds are unrestricted.

No
Prohibited Strategies
  • Arbitrage (latency, reverse, statistical)
  • HFT
  • Tick scalping (under 5 seconds)
  • Fully autonomous bots/EAs
  • Cross-account hedging
  • Gambling behaviors
  • Martingale
  • Inbound copy trading and signal services
  • Group/signal trading from Telegram, Discord etc.

Exploiting platform or data-feed errors; relying on drawdown protection as the sole exit; offsetting risk across accounts; copying third-party trades; manipulative automation, HFT or latency arbitrage; opening positions within 2% of a CME price limit; holding positions or resting orders after market close; overleveraging, account rolling, spoofing, layering, wash trading or other behaviour that cannot be replicated in a live futures market.

Overnight positions
No data
No
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