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Which is better for your first challenge: Iceberg or Upcomers Perpetuals?

Deciding where to start your trading career can be overwhelming. Both Iceberg and Upcomers Perpetuals focus on the crypto market, but they offer very different paths for a beginner.

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What you are signing up for

A "challenge" or evaluation is a test where you pay an entry fee to trade with a simulated account. Your goal is to reach a profit target—a specific amount of money you must earn—without breaking risk rules. If you pass, the firm gives you access to a funded account where you keep a share of the profits.

  • Iceberg: Offers a very low entry barrier. Their smallest evaluation ($5,000) costs $47. They also offer "Instant Funding," where you skip the test and start earning immediately for a higher fee ($167 for a $5,000 account).
  • Upcomers Perpetuals: Is more expensive for starters. Their smallest 1-step challenge ($5,000) costs $159. However, they offer a refund: if you reach your third payout, they give you back 200% of your entry fee.

How hard each one is

The difficulty is measured by the "drawdown," which is the maximum loss allowed before your account is closed.

  • Iceberg uses a "Static" drawdown of 6%. This means your floor is fixed based on your starting capital and never moves up, even if you make profits. This is much easier for beginners because it gives you more "breathing room" as your account grows.
  • Upcomers Perpetuals uses different rules depending on the plan. Their "Thunderbolt" plan has a 6% "Trailing" drawdown. A trailing drawdown follows your highest recorded balance; if you make $1,000 and then lose it, you might hit your limit even if you are still above your starting balance. This requires much tighter discipline.

How long it takes

In this industry, "steps" refer to the number of evaluation phases you must complete.

  • Iceberg is designed for speed. Their "Unlimited" plan has only 1 step with a 10% profit target. There are no minimum trading days, meaning if you hit the target in one hour, you pass.
  • Upcomers Perpetuals offers more variety. You can choose the "Phoenix" plan (2 steps, 5% target each), "Thunderbolt" (1 step, 6% target), or "Vanguard" (Instant). While they also have no minimum days for evaluations, their "Vanguard" (Instant) plan requires 6 "qualifying days" (days with at least 0.5% profit) before you can withdraw money.

Where beginners fail

Most beginners lose their accounts not because they can't trade, but because of specific "hidden" rules.

  • Upcomers has a "20% Best Day Rule." This is a consistency rule which means no single trading day can account for more than 20% of your total profit. If you have one "lucky" trade that makes all your money, you won't be able to withdraw until you trade more and balance your results. They also limit your risk to 1.5% or 2% per trade.
  • Iceberg has no consistency rules and no "Identity Verification" (KYC) required to start. However, their "Instant" accounts expire after 90 days, which creates time pressure that can lead to mistakes.

What happens if you make it

If you pass, you become a "funded trader" and receive a "profit split"—your percentage of the gains.

  • Iceberg gives you 80% of the profits. Payouts are fast: you can request your first one 120 hours after your first trade. On "Instant" accounts, there is a withdrawal cap of 5% of the initial capital per payout.
  • Upcomers Perpetuals starts at 80% but can go up to 100% depending on the options you buy. They have a progressive payout ladder, meaning the maximum amount you can take out increases with every successful withdrawal until the limit is removed entirely after the 8th payout.

If it is your first time

If you are a complete beginner, Iceberg is the safer recommendation for two reasons:

  1. Free Trial: They offer a $5,000 demo account for free so you can practice without spending a cent.
  2. Simplicity: Their static drawdown and lack of consistency rules mean you only have to worry about the market, not complex math or "Best Day" calculations.

Upcomers is better suited for your second or third attempt, once you have the discipline to manage trailing drawdowns and want to benefit from their 200% refund policy.

Frequently asked questions

Which firm is cheaper for a first $5,000 evaluation, Iceberg or Upcomers?

Iceberg is significantly cheaper for beginners. Their $5,000 "1-Step Unlimited" account costs $47, while the equivalent "Thunderbolt Classic" account at Upcomers Perpetuals costs $159. This makes Iceberg a much more accessible option for those who are just starting and want to minimize their initial risk.

Does Iceberg or Upcomers Perpetuals offer a free trial to practice?

Iceberg offers a free $5,000 demo account (one at a time) for users to test their proprietary platform and conditions. Upcomers Perpetuals does not offer a free trial; you must pay the entry fee for any of their evaluation or instant funding programs to start trading.

Which firm has easier loss limits for a beginner, Iceberg or Upcomers?

Iceberg is easier because it uses a static maximum drawdown of 6%, which stays fixed at a specific price floor and does not move up as you make profits. In contrast, Upcomers Perpetuals uses a trailing drawdown of 6% or 7% on several plans (Thunderbolt and Vanguard), which follows your account's peak value and is much easier to hit if you have a winning streak followed by a correction.

What are the consistency requirements for payouts in Iceberg vs Upcomers?

Iceberg has no consistency rules, allowing you to withdraw profits regardless of how they were distributed across your trading days. Upcomers Perpetuals enforces a "20% Best Day Rule," meaning that no single day's profit can represent more than 20% of the total profit at the time of the payout request. This forces the trader to maintain a more regular and balanced trading style.

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Headquarters
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CEO
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Jakub Zeliska

Country
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United Arab Emirates

Foundation
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2023

Assets
Crypto, Forex, Commodities, Indices, Stocks
Crypto, Stocks, ETFs, Indices, Commodities, Forex
Brokers

Simulated capital using Hyperliquid prices and depth. Orders are not sent to the live venue.

Live Hyperliquid order book and market data

Refund
No
Yes

Challenge accounts, including Thunderbolt and Phoenix, qualify for a bonus equal to 200% of the entry fee after the third fully approved payout. It does not apply to Vanguard Instant Funding.

Platforms
Propietary Platform
Upcomers
Payout Methods
Crypto
Crypto, Transfer
Payment Methods
Crypto
Card, Crypto, PayPal, ApplePay, GooglePay
Payout Frequency

Instant: first request 120 hours after the first executed trade; thereafter, 120 hours after each received payout. Unlimited funded: on demand, without a waiting period or cooldown.

Payouts are available on demand when all requirements are met. Thunderbolt and Phoenix have no profitable-day minimum. Vanguard requires 6 qualifying days with at least 0.5% realized profit each. The counter resets after every payout.

Payout Guarantee

Native USDC payouts on Arbitrum One, subject to available public-pool funds. Requests may queue when liquidity is unavailable. Close positions and cancel orders before requesting.

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Crypto Weekend Trading
Yes
Yes
Maximum Withdrawal

Instant: 5% of initial capital gross per payout. Each request resets the balance to initial capital; excess above the cap is forfeited on settlement. Partial withdrawals are unavailable. Unlimited: no such cap.

Perpetuals use the same progressive payout-cap ladder as CFD accounts. The cap increases with each fully approved payout and is removed from payout #8 onward. Profit above the applicable cap is forfeited at the end of the segment.

Minimum Withdrawal

Instant: 1% of initial capital gross. Unlimited funded: USD 25 gross.

$45 after applying the selected profit split.

Payout Fee
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Bank transfer: $19.90 + 2.49%. Cryptocurrency: $19.90 + 30%. Returned payouts: $30 reprocessing fee.

Other Payout Requirements
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At least 1% realized profit since account start or the previous payout; all positions closed; drawdown compliance; completed KYC and signed Trader Agreement.

Forex
25:1

Forex perpetuals: up to 25:1

Metals
5:1 - 8:1

Gold and silver: up to 8:1. Copper: up to 5:1

Energies
8:1

WTI and Brent crude: up to 8:1

Indices
10:1

Index perpetuals: up to 10:1

Stocks
4:1

Stock and ETF perpetuals: up to 4:1

Crypto

BTC, ETH and SOL: up to 10:1. Other crypto: up to 2:1.

BTC, ETH and SOL: up to 10:1. Other cryptocurrencies: up to 2:1

Forex
0.003% - 0.009%
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Metals
0.003% - 0.009% - 0.03% - 0.09%
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Energies
0.003% - 0.009%
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Indices
0.003% - 0.009%
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Stocks
0.003% - 0.009% - 0.03% - 0.09%
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Crypto
0.015% - 0.045%
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Commission
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Crypto perpetuals: 0.015% maker / 0.045% taker. Stocks, ETFs, indices, commodities and forex: 0.003% maker / 0.009% taker. MSTR, PURRDAT and GOLD: 0.03% maker / 0.09% taker. No spread markup; $10 minimum order.

Swap Free
No

Hourly funding using Hyperliquid rates.

No
Instant
Yes
Yes
One Step
Yes
Yes
Max Drawdown

Static floor based on initial capital; it does not trail profits or decrease after payouts. Checked against equity, including open P&L, fees and funding.

Thunderbolt: 6% trailing Dynamic Risk Shield. Phoenix: 6% fixed maximum drawdown. Vanguard: 7% trailing maximum drawdown.

Free Trial
Yes

Free USD 5,000 demo, one at a time.

No
Profit After Breach

After a loss-limit breach or Instant expiry, unrequested funded profit loses payout eligibility. Amounts reserved for previously submitted requests are not automatically forfeited.

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Daily Drawdown

Based on the opening balance at 00:00 UTC, after funding. Payout reserves and returns adjust cash and the daily floor equally.

Thunderbolt: 3%. Phoenix: 3.5%. Vanguard: 3%. The daily boundary is 00:00 UTC.

Max Allocation

Instant: USD 50,000 across unexpired accounts and pending purchases; up to USD 50,000 active. Standby accounts count and archiving does not free capacity. Unlimited: no evaluation allocation cap; up to USD 200,000 funded and active. Separate limits; a passed evaluation waits until capacity is available.

Current Perpetuals accounts are sold up to $400,000. Total funded capital across all Upcomers programs cannot exceed $1,500,000. Eligible accounts can scale to $4,000,000.

Maximum Trading Days

Instant: expires 90 days after first activation, even without trading. Unlimited: no expiration in evaluation or funded phases.

Unlimited.

Minimum Trading Days

No minimum.

Thunderbolt and Phoenix have no minimum trading days to pass their evaluations. Vanguard has no evaluation.

Points Reward Program

Ice Points for eligible activity; the formula is variable and unpublished. 10,000 points: 5% discount; 18,000: 10% discount; 7,500: badge. Owner-bound codes, one use, valid for 90 days and non-stackable.

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Account Reset
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Resets may be offered after a rule violation. A violation-related reset permanently caps future payouts on that account at 50% of the approved amount.

Add-ons
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No
Account scaling
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Yes

Eligible funded accounts can scale by 35% every four consecutive months, up to $4,000,000, after achieving 15% cumulative growth, at least two payouts and a profitable final cycle.

Two Steps
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Yes
Profit Split
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80%, 90% or 100%, depending on the checkout option. The base catalogue prices correspond to 80%; the checkout defaults to 90%.

Merge Accounts
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No
Minimum Profitable Days
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Thunderbolt and Phoenix: none. Vanguard: 6 days with at least 0.5% realized profit each before every payout.

Requires Stop Loss
No
No
Copy Trading
Limited

Only between your own accounts. Copying between different users is prohibited.

No
News Trading
Yes
Yes
Consistency Rule
No
Yes

20% Best Day Rule at payout for Thunderbolt, Phoenix and Vanguard. It is a soft payout requirement and does not breach the account.

Hold Weekend
Yes

Overnight holding is also allowed when usable market data is available.

Yes

All Perpetuals markets trade 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.

Prohibited Strategies

Account sharing, cross-account hedging, copying between users, latency arbitrage and tick-sniping. Breaches may lead to a ban; appeals through Discord.

Platform or feed exploitation, tick scalping, high-frequency trading, latency trading, arbitrage, grid trading, martingale, one-sided or all-or-nothing bets, reverse or group hedging, external signal or challenge-passing services, account sharing and coordinated trading are prohibited.

Expert Advisor (EA)
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No
VPN
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Limited

Not explicitly prohibited, but strongly discouraged. VPN or VPS use during KYC/AML verification is prohibited.

Hedging
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No

Hedging across multiple accounts is prohibited. Hedging within one account is allowed under normal trading rules.

Scalping
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Limited

Normal scalping is allowed. Tick scalping, HFT and latency exploitation are prohibited; trades repeatedly closed in under two minutes may be treated as tick scalping.

Stacking / Layering (DCA)
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Yes
Martingale
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No
Maximum Risk Limit
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Yes

Funded maximum loss per trade: 2% on Thunderbolt and Phoenix; 1.5% on Vanguard. Positions on the same instrument and direction count as one trade.

Inactivity Rule
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Yes

The account expires after 35 consecutive days without closing a trade. A warning is sent 7 days before expiration.

Overnight positions
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Yes
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