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Which is better for your first challenge: Funded Futures Family or forTraders Futures?

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What you are signing up for

An evaluation is a test where you trade with simulated money to prove you can be profitable before the firm grants you access to a funded account. You pay an entry fee to access this test.

Funded Futures Family (FFF) generally uses a monthly subscription model. For example, their $25,000 "Premier EOD" account costs $144 per month until you pass. If you fail and want to try again, you may have to pay a reset fee, which is a discounted price to restart the evaluation.

forTraders Futures uses a one-time fee model for its "Fast" and "Fast Pro" accounts. A $25,000 "Futures Fast" account costs $139 as a single payment. They do not offer a free trial, which is a zero-cost practice account, but they do have a free "Predictions Market" competition where you can win challenges.

How hard each one is

The difficulty depends on two main numbers: the profit target and the drawdown.

  • The profit target is the specific amount of gain you must reach to pass the evaluation. For a $25,000 account, both firms set this at $1,500.
  • The drawdown is the maximum amount your account balance is allowed to drop from its highest point before you are disqualified.

In Funded Futures Family, you can choose "End-of-Day" (EOD) drawdown. This means your loss limit only updates at the end of the trading day based on your closed positions. This is much friendlier for beginners than "Intraday" drawdown, which moves in real-time as your trades are still open.

In forTraders Futures, the "Fast" model uses a trailing drawdown. This is a loss limit that follows your balance as it grows. If your balance goes up by $100, your allowed loss limit also moves up by $100. This requires more discipline because you cannot afford to let winning trades turn into large losers.

How long it takes

There is no maximum time limit to pass either firm; you can take as many months as you need. However, there are minimum trading days, which is the fewest number of days you must place a trade before being eligible for a funded account.

Funded Futures Family is very fast:

  • You can pass in just 1 or 2 days depending on the plan you choose.
  • You must make at least one trade per week to keep the account active.

forTraders Futures requires more patience:

  • The "Futures Fast" account requires 5 profitable days to pass.
  • A profitable day is a session where you end with more money than you started.

Where beginners fail

Most beginners lose their accounts due to the consistency rule. This rule ensures you didn't just get lucky on one trade by limiting how much a single day can contribute to your total profit.

  • At Funded Futures Family, most plans have a 40% consistency rule. This means no single day can account for more than 40% of your total profit target.
  • At forTraders Futures, the limit is also 40% for their "Fast" evaluations.

Another trap is the inactivity rule. FFF will close your account if you don't trade for 2 consecutive weeks. forTraders is stricter, requiring a trade every 7 days during the evaluation phase.

What happens if you make it

If you pass, you move to a funded stage where you earn a profit split, which is the percentage of the gains you get to keep as real money.

Funded Futures Family offers a 90% profit split on their simulated funded accounts. They offer many platforms, including TradingView, which is a popular web-based charting tool, and NinjaTrader, a professional-grade software. Payouts can be requested as often as every 3 to 7 trading days depending on your plan.

forTraders Futures offers an 80% profit split. They use their own proprietary platform called For Traders X. This means you don't have to pay for external software, but you are limited to their specific tools. They guarantee that if they don't process your payout within 48 hours, you get to keep 100% of the profits for that request.

If it is your first time

Funded Futures Family is the better choice for a beginner. The main reason is the availability of "End-of-Day" drawdown, which gives you much more breathing room while you are learning. Additionally, being able to use TradingView makes the technical part of trading much easier for someone who is not yet comfortable with complex professional software.

While forTraders Futures has an attractive one-time fee, their trailing drawdown and proprietary platform create a steeper learning curve for a first attempt.

Frequently asked questions

Which firm is cheaper for a $50,000 evaluation, Funded Futures Family or forTraders Futures?

For a $50,000 account, forTraders Futures is generally cheaper for a first attempt because it charges a one-time fee of $199. Funded Futures Family charges $194 per month for its Premier EOD plan. If you take more than one month to pass the evaluation, you would have to pay the FFF fee again, whereas the forTraders fee covers you indefinitely until you either pass or fail.

Does Funded Futures Family or forTraders Futures offer a better profit share for the trader?

Funded Futures Family offers a higher profit split of 90% for the trader on its simulated funded accounts. In contrast, forTraders Futures offers an 80% profit split across all its futures products. This means that for every $1,000 earned, you would keep $900 at FFF compared to $800 at forTraders.

Which firm offers more trading platforms, Funded Futures Family or forTraders Futures?

Funded Futures Family offers much more variety, allowing traders to use NinjaTrader, Tradovate, and TradingView. This is helpful for beginners who prefer modern, web-based interfaces. forTraders Futures is more restrictive, as it only allows trading through its proprietary platform, For Traders X.

How do the withdrawal rules compare between Funded Futures Family and forTraders Futures?

Funded Futures Family allows for very frequent withdrawals, with some plans allowing requests every 3 trading days, though they require you to maintain a "buffer" (a minimum amount of profit that must stay in the account). forTraders Futures allows on-demand payouts after 5 profitable days for their Fast model and offers a "48-hour guarantee" where they pay you 100% of the profit if the transfer takes longer than two days.

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CEO

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Country

United Arab Emirates

United States

Foundation

2023

2024

Banned Countries
Pakistan, Iran, Syria, Myanmar, Bangladesh, North Korea, Russian Federation, Belarus, Cuba, Lebanon, Libya, Sudan, United States, United Arab Emirates
Afghanistan, Central African Republic, Congo (Brazzaville), Cuba, Democratic People's Republic of Korea (North Korea), Democratic Republic of the Congo, Guinea, Guam, Haiti, Iran, Iraq, Libya, Mali, Puerto Rico, Russian Federation, Somalia, South Sudan, Sudan, Syria, Ukraine, United States Virgin Islands, Venezuela, Yemen, Ethiopia, Mauritius, Mongolia, Montenegro, Papua New Guinea, Sri Lanka, Trinidad and Tobago, Tunisia, Uganda, Vietnam, Zimbabwe
Assets
Futures
Indices, Commodities
Brokers

Proprietary platform For Traders X. Liquidity provider not publicly disclosed.

Tradovate, Rithmic, NinjaTrader
Refund
No

No traditional refund. No activation fee after passing Fast/Fast Pro.

No data
Payout Fee
  • Crypto ($100 – $499): $25
  • Rise $500 or more: $50
No data
Platforms
For Traders X
Tradovate, NinjaTrader, Tradingview, WealthCharts
Payout Methods
Transfer, Crypto, Rise
Transfer, Crypto, Rise
Payment Methods
Card, Crypto, Transfer
Card, Crypto, PayPal
Payout Frequency
  • Futures Fast: on-demand (after 5 profitable days and offsetting trailing drawdown)
  • Futures Instant: on-demand (after 7 profitable days)
  • Futures Fast Pro: on-demand (after 1 profitable day, balance > $52K)

Simulated Funded Accounts

  • Prime: Every 3 trading days
  • Classic: Every 7 trading days
  • Premier / Elite: Every 5 trading days
  • Velocity Standard: Every 3 trading days
  • Velocity Daily Payout Add-On: Daily (1x per day)
  • S2F Accelerate: Eligible for payout after 5 trading days

Professional Stage Accounts

  • Daily withdrawal requests permitted.

S2F Sniper / Accelerate / Payday

  • Sniper 25K: daily payouts once eligible.
  • Accelerate 25K: 5 qualifying days per payout.
  • Payday 50K: 7 qualifying days per payout.

Choice

  • Daily Pay: once per trading day, after the 2 p.m. PT close.
  • Weekly Pay: after every 5 winning days.
Payout Guarantee

48 hours: if not paid within 48h, 100% profit split

No data
Minimum Withdrawal
  • Minimum: $100 in wallet
  • Maximum per cycle by product:
    · Futures Fast 25K: $800
    · Futures Fast 50K: $1,500
    · Futures Fast 100K: $2,500
    · Futures Instant 25K: $1,500
    · Futures Instant 50K: $3,000
    · Futures Instant 100K: $4,500
    · Futures Fast Pro 50K: $250-$1,200 per cycle, final $10,000 (max 5 withdrawals)
  • Choice Weekly Pay: $500.
  • Other plans: $250.
Live Account
No data
Yes

Professional Stage accounts use real capital. Pro environment runs on Tradovate; Live Market Execution environment runs on Rithmic.

Maximum Withdrawal
No data

Simulated Funded Accounts: Max Payout Per Request

  • Prime: Payout 1 ($1,000-$3,500), Payout 2+ ($1,500-$4,000)
  • Classic: Payout 1 ($1,750-$3,000), Payout 2+ ($2,000-$6,000)
  • Premier / Elite: Payout 1 ($1,750-$3,000), Payout 2+ ($2,000-$6,500)
  • Velocity Standard: $750-$3,250 per request
  • Velocity Daily Payout Add-On: $600-$2,500 per request
  • S2F Accelerate 50K: $500 per payout for new purchases; earlier purchases keep $1,250 / $1,250 / $1,500 from payout 3

Professional Stage Accounts

  • No maximum withdrawal amount, limited only by available profits above the required buffer.

S2F Sniper / Accelerate / Payday

  • Sniper 25K: payouts 1-2 up to $500 each; payout 3 onward up to $1,000 each.
  • Accelerate 25K: up to $500 per payout.
  • Payday 50K: payouts 1-2 up to $1,000 each; payout 3 onward up to $1,250 each.

Choice

  • Daily Pay: $400 / $750 / $1,250 / $1,750 per request (25K / 50K / 100K / 150K), never above the profit over the cushion.
  • Weekly Pay: 50% of total profit, capped at $1,250 / $2,500 / $3,500 / $4,500 per payout.
Other Payout Requirements
No data

S2F Sniper / Accelerate / Payday

  • Sniper 25K: $2,500 profit required between payouts.
  • Payday 50K: $3,000 profit required between payouts.

S2F Accelerate

  • For purchases on or after October 22, 2026, each payout requires the profit target shown in the challenge. It resets after each payout; carried-over profit does not count. Earlier purchases are exempt from this added target. All other payout requirements still apply.
  • 50K, new purchases: at least 3 payouts before moving to live; no early move to live.

Choice

  • Daily Pay or Weekly Pay is chosen when activating the funded account and stays with that account.
  • After the first payout, at least $1 of net profit since the last payout.
Futures

Per-contract margins set by underlying instrument. Position size capped per account size.

No data
Futures
0.2
No data
Commission
No data

Commission depends on the trading platform used

  • NinjaTrader: standard NinjaTrader/CME exchange and clearing fees apply. Check NinjaTrader's commission schedule for exact rates per contract.
  • Tradovate: standard Tradovate platform and exchange fees apply. See Tradovate's pricing page for per-contract rates.
  • TradingView (via Tradovate): fees are determined by the connected broker (Tradovate). Refer to Tradovate for exact rates.
  • WealthCharts: standard exchange and clearing fees apply. Verify with WealthCharts for specific per-contract pricing.
Swap Free
No
No data
Add-ons
No
Yes

Daily Payout Add-On available for Velocity Plan: enables daily payout requests (1x per day) with no consistency rule and no minimum trading day requirement.
Velocity EOD Drawdown Add-On: evaluation only. Fees: 25K $30; 50K $50; 100K $80; 150K $110. Funded drawdown remains intraday.
Choice 50% Consistency Add-On: evaluation only, +20% on the evaluation price. Consistency goes from 40% to 50%, allowing a 2-day pass.

Instant
Yes
Yes

Core: S2F Payday and S2F Accelerate 50K. Labs, invite only: S2F Sniper and S2F Accelerate 25K.

One Step
Yes
Yes
Account scaling
Yes

Scaling unlocked through the Loyalty Program (5 tiers: Starter, Rising Star, Pro, VIP, Legend). Increments depend on tier. Applies to all account types.

Yes

Scaling plan applies to Simulated Funded and Professional Stage accounts. In Sim Funded, position size increases with realized profit (end-of-day). In Professional Stage, scaling is decided case-by-case by the Live Desk based on EOD realized results.
Sniper 25K and Accelerate 25K have fixed position limits and no scaling plan. Payday 50K has a scaling plan.
Choice has fixed position limits, the same as in the evaluation, and no scaling plan.

Two Steps
No
No data
Max Drawdown
  • Futures Fast: $1,000 (25K) / $2,000 (50K) / $2,500 (100K), trailing
  • Futures Fast Pro: $2,000 EOD trailing (50K)
  • Futures Instant: 5% EOD trailing

Evaluation Phase

  • Prime / Classic / Premier EOD: End-of-Day trailing drawdown based on realized gains.
  • Elite / Premier Intraday: Intraday trailing drawdown based on unrealized gains.
  • S2F Accelerate: Intraday trailing drawdown with no ceiling.
  • Velocity: Intraday trailing drawdown; optional EOD drawdown during evaluation.
  • Choice: End-of-Day trailing drawdown.

Simulated Funded Phase

  • Velocity: Intraday trailing drawdown, including accounts with the evaluation EOD Add-On.
  • End-of-Day drawdown on all plans except Velocity and S2F Accelerate. Except for Sniper 25K, once an End-of-Day account reaches the buffer zone (e.g., $52,000 for $50K account), the drawdown becomes static at the initial balance.
  • S2F Accelerate: Intraday trailing drawdown with no ceiling.

Professional Stage

  • End-of-Position (EoP) drawdown: adjusts only when a position is closed in profit. Drawdown locks at a static threshold once fully recovered (e.g., $50,100 for $50K account).

S2F Sniper / Accelerate / Payday

  • Sniper 25K: EOD trailing drawdown that never locks.
  • Accelerate 25K: intraday trailing drawdown that never locks.
  • Payday 50K: EOD trailing drawdown locks at the initial balance once the EOD balance reaches the initial balance plus the maximum drawdown.

Choice funded

  • End-of-Day trailing drawdown. Locks at the starting balance + $100 once the highest close reaches the starting balance + drawdown + $100, or at the first payout.
  • Daily Pay on 100K / 150K: $2,500 / $3,500 drawdown, tighter than the evaluation. Weekly Pay keeps the evaluation drawdown.
Profit Split

All futures products: 80%

Simulated Funded Accounts

  • 90% trader / 10% firm

Professional Stage Accounts

  • 80% trader / 20% firm
Free Trial
No
No
Daily Drawdown
  • Futures Fast: none
  • Futures Fast Pro: $1,000 (50K)
  • Futures Instant: 3% from highest day equity

Evaluation & Simulated Funded Accounts

  • Except for Payday 50K and Choice Daily Pay, no explicit daily loss limit (DLL) during evaluation or simulated funded phase. However, the 2% CME price limit rule applies.

Professional Stage Accounts

  • Daily Loss Limit (DLL) applies and is tied to the current scaling tier.

S2F Sniper / Accelerate / Payday

  • Sniper 25K and Accelerate 25K: no daily loss limit.
  • Payday 50K: a daily loss limit applies; exceeding it is a hard breach. The amount is shown in the challenge catalogue.

Choice

  • Evaluation and Weekly Pay: no daily loss limit.
  • Daily Pay: $500 / $1,000 / $1,250 / $1,750 (25K / 50K / 100K / 150K). First hit stops trading for the day; second hit closes the account. Strikes never reset.
Three Steps
No
No data
Max Allocation

$300,000 combined across all Master Accounts and Instant Models (Forex + Crypto + Futures shared cap). No allocation limit during Challenge phase.

Up to 4 Simm Funded Accounts
Choice: up to 5 funded accounts.

Mandatory buffer
No

No mandatory buffer. Instead, when you request a payout your maximum trailing drawdown locks at your starting balance.

Limited

Classic / Premier / Elite / Velocity: Buffer Required

  • A buffer must be maintained at all times. The account balance cannot drop below the buffer level after withdrawal. The buffer equals the drawdown level + $100.

Premier Plus (accounts purchased after 4/7/26)

  • No buffer requirement. Net profit rule applies: account must have at least $1 more than the balance requested previously.

Accelerate 25K

  • $1,100 payout buffer; only profits above this buffer can be requested.

Accelerate 50K (new purchases)

  • $2,100 protected buffer. It is part of the first payout's $2,600 profit requirement, not added on top.

Choice

  • Daily Pay: payout cushion of $1,100 / $2,100 / $3,100 / $4,600 in retained profit (25K / 50K / 100K / 150K); only profit above it can be requested.
  • Weekly Pay: no cushion.
Merge Accounts
No
No
Maximum Trading Days

No time limit on any futures account.

No time limit. Traders can take as long as needed to meet the profit target.

Monthly Competition
Yes
No data
Minimum Profitable Days
  • Futures Fast Challenge: 5 profitable days before reward request
  • Futures Fast Pro: 1 profitable day per reward request (50K)
  • Futures Instant: 7 profitable days

Payout Requirements (Simulated Funded)

  • Except for plans without a qualifying-day requirement, each payout cycle requires a minimum number of qualifying trading days with at least $200 realized profit per day.
  • Classic / Premier / Elite: 7 qualifying days per payout.
  • Prime: 3 qualifying days per payout.
  • Premier Plus (after 4/7/26): 5 qualifying days per payout.
  • Velocity: 3 qualifying days per payout, each with at least $200 profit; no qualifying-day minimum with the Daily Payout Add-On.
  • S2F Accelerate 50K: 5 qualifying days per payout, each with at least $200 profit.

Professional Stage

  • A Qualified Trading Day is defined as a day with at least $200 in realized profit, used to determine withdrawal stage eligibility.

S2F Sniper / Accelerate / Payday

  • Sniper 25K: no qualifying-day minimum; payout profit requirements still apply.
  • Accelerate 25K: 5 qualifying days per payout, each with at least $200 profit.
  • Payday 50K: 7 qualifying days per payout, each with at least $200 profit.

Choice

  • Weekly Pay: 5 winning days per payout, each with at least $200 profit.
  • Daily Pay: no winning-day requirement.
Account Reset
No data

Evaluation Accounts

  • Unlimited resets at discounted fees. Fees vary by plan and account size.

Simulated Funded Accounts

  • Maximum of 3 resets per funded account.
    S2F Sniper, S2F Accelerate (including existing accounts) and S2F Payday cannot be reset.
Minimum Trading Days
No data
  • Classic Evaluation: Minimum 2 trading days to pass.
  • Prime: Minimum 1 trading day to pass. Standard and Max differ only in position limits and price.
  • Premier: Choose a 1-Day Pass or 2-Day Pass at checkout. The selected minimum applies to the evaluation.
  • Elite: Minimum 1 trading day to pass.
  • Velocity: Minimum 3 trading days to pass; no minimum with the Daily Payout Add-On.
  • Funded payouts: 7 qualifying trading days ($200+ profit) for Classic / Premier / Elite. 3 qualifying days for Prime. 5 qualifying days for Premier Plus accounts purchased after April 7, 2026.
  • Sniper 25K, Accelerate 25K and Payday 50K bypass evaluation. Their funded payout day requirements are listed under minimum profitable days.
  • Choice: minimum 3 trading days to pass due to the 40% consistency rule; 2 days with the 50% Consistency Add-On.
Funded Phase Pricing Model
No data

No subscription fee on funded accounts. No activation fee on Prime, Premier, Velocity and Choice. Classic has an activation fee.
Sniper 25K, Accelerate 25K and Payday 50K use a one-time purchase fee with no activation or recurring funded fee.

Position size scaling
No data
Yes

Scaling applies to Simulated Funded accounts based on end-of-day realized profit. Position size increases progressively as profit thresholds are met. S2F Accelerate does not use a scaling plan.

Premier Plus Simulated Funded

  • Accounts purchased before September 9, 2026 use the legacy scaling plan, with maximums of 3 minis / 30 micros on 25K, 5 / 50 on 50K, 10 / 100 on 100K and 15 / 150 on 150K.
  • Accounts purchased from September 9, 2026 have fixed maximums of 2 minis / 20 micros on 25K, 4 / 40 on 50K, 6 / 60 on 100K and 10 / 100 on 150K.

S2F Sniper / Accelerate / Payday

  • Sniper 25K and Accelerate 25K: no position size scaling.
  • Payday 50K: position size scaling applies.
Evaluation Phase Pricing Model
No data

Monthly subscription for Prime, Premier (Intraday and EOD), Velocity, Choice and Classic.

Expert Advisor (EA)
No

EAs allowed only as decision-support tools (alerts, partial management, predefined rules). Fully autonomous trading bots are prohibited.

No
VPN
Yes
Yes

VPNs and VPSs are allowed for trading activities on the trading platform. They must not be used to access or log in to the FFF account dashboard. Use is at the trader's own discretion and risk.

Hedging
No

Cross-account hedging is forbidden.

No
Requires Stop Loss
No
No
Scalping
Yes

Manual scalping allowed with minimum 5-second hold per trade. Tick scalping and HFT forbidden.

Yes
Stacking / Layering (DCA)
Yes
No
Martingale
No

Martingale strategies are forbidden.

No data
Maximum Risk Limit
Yes

Position size capped by contract count per account (see Max Allocation).

No
Copy Trading
No

Outbound copy allowed; inbound copy from external sources forbidden.

No
News Trading
Yes

News trading allowed without restrictions on Futures accounts.

Yes
Inactivity Rule
  • Futures Fast Challenge: 7 days
  • Futures Fast Master: 14 days
  • Futures Fast Pro Challenge: 7 days / Master: 14 days
  • Futures Instant: 7 days

Days counted from the moment a position is CLOSED, not opened. Minimal 0.01-lot trades to game the rule don't count.

At least 1 trade per week (Monday-Friday) lasting minimum 10 seconds is required per account. Accounts idle for 2 consecutive weeks are marked inactive and automatically closed without restoration.

Consistency Rule
Yes
  • Futures Fast Challenge: best day's profit must be < 40% of total accumulated profit. No consistency target on Master.
  • Futures Fast Pro Challenge: same 40% rule.
  • Futures Instant: best day cannot exceed 15% of total profit.
  • Calculation: Best Day Profit / 0.40 = Minimum required total profit.
Limited

Classic Evaluation

  • 50% consistency rule applies: no more than 50% of the total profit target can be achieved in a single day.

Simulated Funded Accounts (Classic / Premier / Elite / Velocity: before 4/7/26)

  • Payouts 1-3: 40% maximum per trading day
  • Payouts 4-5: 45% maximum per trading day
  • Payouts 6+: 50% maximum per trading day

S2F Accelerate

  • 25K / 50K: purchases before October 22, 2026 retain 25% lifetime consistency. Purchases on or after that date: payout 1, 20%; payout 2, 25%; payout 3 onward, 30%.

Prime Simulated Funded

  • 40% consistency per payout cycle; resets after a payout.

Premier Plus Simulated Funded

  • Accounts purchased before September 9, 2026: no consistency rule.
  • Accounts purchased from September 9, 2026: 40% consistency rule.
  • Promotional giveaway accounts: 40% consistency rule.

Professional Stage

  • No consistency rule.

S2F Sniper / Accelerate / Payday

  • Sniper 25K: no consistency rule.
  • Payday 50K: 40% consistency requirement.

Velocity

  • Evaluation and Simulated Funded: 40% lifetime consistency. No consistency rule with the Daily Payout Add-On.

Premier+ Evaluation

  • No consistency rule on FastPass or Standard evaluations.

Choice

  • Evaluation: 40% consistency; 50% with the add-on.
  • Funded (Daily Pay and Weekly Pay): no consistency rule.
Hold Weekend
Yes

Weekend holds are unrestricted.

No
Prohibited Strategies
  • Arbitrage (latency, reverse, statistical)
  • HFT
  • Tick scalping (under 5 seconds)
  • Fully autonomous bots/EAs
  • Cross-account hedging
  • Gambling behaviors
  • Martingale
  • Inbound copy trading and signal services
  • Group/signal trading from Telegram, Discord etc.
  • Bots / algorithmic trading
  • Hedging
  • Trading within 2% of CME price limits
  • Straddles / strangles exploiting news volatility
  • Excessive Dollar Cost Averaging (DCA) into losing positions
  • Micro-scalping: over 50% of trades and over 50% of profits must come from positions held longer than 20 seconds
  • Unauthorized group trading / signal services
Overnight positions
No data
Yes

Overnight trading is allowed. All positions must be closed by 4:15 PM EST daily (automatic close if not closed manually). Trading resumes at 6:00 PM EST. Weekend trading is not permitted; all positions must be closed before Friday 4:15 PM EST.

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